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    Default Announcing the release of Perception!

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    BDC Concepts is proud to announce the Gold release of Perception! We

    have combined three pheromones (androstenol, androstenone, and androsterone) into 10 mL of a unique and water

    based formula. In addition, each purchase includes a FREE 5 mL atomizer of concentrated fragrance!

    What

    makes Perception different from other products?

    Perception is a revolution in the pheromone

    industry!

    First, Perception's formula is designed from the ground up to be extended release. Other

    products typically use either isopropyl myristate, isopropyl alcohol, PG, or a combination of each as a solvent

    which presents a quick release of pheromones directly after application but then fades quickly (within a few hours).

    Perception uses a proprietary formula of polymers to yield a true EXTENDED RELEASED dose that will last

    consistently for 12 hours! When you receive a bottle of Perception spray a little on your wrist and notice the

    distinct smell of pheromones while it is still wet. However, after it dries the smell is somewhat lessened. This

    is a result of the polymers "locking" the pheromones to the outer layer of skin (the stratum corneum). Once dry the

    applied pheromone will be released slowly and evenly over the next 10-12 hours. Notice that the smell

    does not increase nor decrease throughout the day. Know exactly the amount of pheromones that were applied and

    accurately estimate the total duration that they will be released!

    Second, we have eliminated transdermal

    uptake with Perception's unique water based formula. This is important since the applied dosages for pheromones

    are in the microgram range. It is impossible to remain consistent with results if each application is really only

    giving 75-80% of rated dose. Perception will deliver and release the pheromone dose at consistent levels!



    Third, our formula eliminates pheromone build-up. Perception is water based and will remain "locked" on the

    outer layer of skin until removed with a daily shower or otherwise washed with water. This is a major breakthrough

    as other products will allow for build-up via transdermal flux (and eventual re-release). Each shower will

    completely remove the applied pheromone. Your 100th dose of Perception will be as consistent as your first

    dose!

    Why is this called the "Gold" release?
    The Gold release of Perception is

    intended to gather feedback from users and incorporate that into the final "Platinum" release. Here is your chance

    to help fine tune a highly effective pheromone product! We value customer feedback and pledge continuous

    improvement. This is our commitment to a quality and dynamic nature. With BDC

    Concepts
    , your voice is heard!

    The Gold release can easily be identified by the gold trim on the

    atomizers. When giving feedback please note whether it is from the Gold release batch.

    For

    the customers:

    Perception does not attempt to present another run-of-the-mill pheromone product.

    We have identified several of the shortcomings of traditional products and engineered solutions! Our unique formula

    provides an extended release, eliminates transdermal uptake, and stops build-up. Clearly, we have not created a spin

    on pheromone ratios but have instead revolutionized the method of delivery for pheromones! At

    BDC Concepts, we strive to manufacture the highest quality products and are proud

    to announce the release of Perception!

    For the manufacturers:
    The unique

    hybrid polymer base is highly effective at solubizing pheromones in a water matrix. We have demonstrated that .33%

    (1/3rd % V/V) can dissolve and stabilize 4 mg per unit. Imagine having a completely water based formula (99.67%

    water) that can dissolve pheromones, release them over a known timeframe, eliminate transdermal uptake, and stop

    build-up with your own pheromone ratio! Allow your products to present more consistent results in a cost effective

    manner. If interested in using our hybrid polymer base for your products or want to explore our custom engineered

    solutions please contact us.

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    is it now on sale at LS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by koolking1
    is it now on sale

    at LS?
    It is up for advance sale now at $10. off ($39.95). We should have it in hand for shipping

    this Thursday.

    Bruce

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    Will the concentrated fragrance

    increase transdermal absorption?

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    Congratulations, Chemo and

    Bruce! It will be interesting to see the feedback from people in terms of the time effects of phero use.
    DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjf
    Will the

    concentrated fragrance increase transdermal absorption?
    The fragrance is also water based so should not

    increase transdermal flux significantly. Good question!

    Bobby

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrSmellThis
    Congratulations, Chemo and Bruce! It will be interesting to see the feedback from people in

    terms of the time effects of phero use.
    I am confident that this is a step in the right direction for

    pheromones. The ratio of pheromones that are effective will be different for everybody...and may even vary with

    environment. However, the one factor that is consistent across all applications, ratios, and environments is

    DELIVERY METHOD.

    We can't manufacture a pheromone product that will be all things to all people but we sure

    can offer a more advanced delivery method!

    Bobby

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    How do the polymers lock the

    pheromones onto the top layer of skin?

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    Eureka! At last...I have been

    eagerly anticipating this product...Will there be a link posted in a forum msg or will we be able to order it direct

    from the website? Is there a tight supply for the gold?

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    Quote Originally Posted by metroman
    Eureka! At last...I

    have been eagerly anticipating this product...Will there be a link posted in a forum msg or will we be able to order

    it direct from the website? Is there a tight supply for the

    gold?
    http://love-scent.com/product_info.php/products_id/1

    Perception is for sale

    only on the Love-Scent.com site at the moment. The above URL should take you directly there.

    Bruce

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    Okay ignore my last comment. I

    see it now right on the website...Congratulations on bringing to market a product that I think will help a lot of us

    who are mone sensitive...

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    I would like

    to ask Bruce, Bobby or anyone who has already experimented with "Perception" what has been the results so far in

    terms of hits, ect...?
    "Most women stop being attracted to a guy because he lets her know too early in the interaction that he likes her."
    ----Swinggcat

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    Heheh, I'll let Chemo the

    Chemist field the polymer question , but I should add that I am very excited to present this to the community. As

    Bobby pointed out, we took an entirely different approach to this product. Knowing that tons of different products

    and ratios exist, we examined what appeared to be the limiting factor - The DELIVERY! I believe we are truly making

    a large step foward for the pheromone industry through presenting a product that will reduce the shortcomings of

    others and truly provide us an opportunity to see what pheromones can do when using a unique delivery. Can't wait

    to hear the feedback!

    Thanks
    Matt

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    So is your polymer also

    available? I wouldn't mind trying some. How would it affect a fragrance? Would it tend to mute it? Does it have an

    effect on scent? Is it a fixative? Should I even be asking all this here?
    DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)

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    Any chance of this stuff

    irritating skin? itching? I'm sure you've done tests on numerous people, but I still have to ask.

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    As noted in the manufacturer

    section of the provided write up above, we can provide services for those interested in using our matrix. Please PM

    Bobby or myself for more information.

    Thanks

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    Cool that you are willing to allow

    other manufactuers to borrow your formula if it works. That is great.

    Does the formula, since you say it

    causes a slower release, require us to use more of the product to get the same effect in a given time window as a

    normal product with the quick release?

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    Quote Originally Posted by einstein
    Any chance

    of this stuff irritating skin? itching? I'm sure you've done tests on numerous people, but I still have to

    ask.
    Our preliminary feedback has shown no one to be affected adversely in terms of irritation or

    rash to the product. We highly doubt any occurances of this. Good question though!

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    And just what is the fragrance

    like anyhow?

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    Cool

    Quote Originally Posted by Unknownshadow21
    I would like

    to ask Bruce, Bobby or anyone who has already experimented with "Perception" what has been the results so far in

    terms of hits, ect...?
    I think this is a valid question, any insight ?
    Is it possible to get some

    of your tester to join this fourm for questions and observations?


    DCW

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    Another question, then I'll

    stop bugging you. Any chance of these androgens being absorbed by the skin even without a transdermal carrier?

    I've read that DHEA can be absorbed through skin without a special carrier.

    They

    referenced this article
    . I know we're not talking about DHEA, and we aren't rats, but its close enough to

    get me wondering.

    On a different note, thanks for listening to us. Full disclosure of the contents, separate

    fragrance, 2 different sized atomizers, both unmarked, and reusable. That's everything we've ever asked for!!

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjf
    How do

    the polymers lock the pheromones onto the top layer of skin?
    The polymers can be thought of like double

    sided velcro. On the bottom is the outer layer of skin (stratum corneum), the middle is the polymer, and the

    outside is the pheromone.

    The velcro (polymer) holds the other two together...or, holds the pheromone to the

    skin...depending on how you want to look at it.

    How does it work? Like most long chain polymers, the

    molecule is lipophilic (oil soluble) and dissolves the pheromones. What makes this hybrid formula special is that

    it is also hydrophilic. Technically, the hybrid polymer blend forms a phase boundary cohesion between the

    pheromones and stratum corneum. In simple terms, the hybrid polymer blend is like double sided velcro.

    Does

    this answer you question or did I miss the mark completely?

    Bobby

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    Quote Originally Posted by einstein
    Any

    chance of this stuff irritating skin? itching? I'm sure you've done tests on numerous people, but I still have

    to ask.
    All of the ingredients of the hybrid polymer blend are FDA approved for cosmetic use and are

    skin safe.

    Bobby

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjf
    Cool that

    you are willing to allow other manufactuers to borrow your formula if it works. That is great.

    Does the

    formula, since you say it causes a slower release, require us to use more of the product to get the same effect in a

    given time window as a normal product with the quick release?
    This is a tricky question! First, more is

    not better as is the mantra of pheromone gurus. However, you are correct in that the slow, steady release will

    provide lower levels but is offset by the fact that it is CONSISTENTLY AND EVENLY released over approximately 12

    hours. We highly encourage users to start with 2 sprays and tweak according to individual needs. Remember,

    directly after application there will be about 3 or 4 minutes when there will be no detectable pheromone smell while

    the polymer is setting up. After this time the pheromone application is detectable and will be at that level for 12

    hours. I recommend getting the product and testing on an easily accessible part of the body (like the forearms or

    wrists). Spray some on and let dry...smell the area and if the intensity is not strong enough then give it another

    spray. Keep in mind that this level will be persistent for 12 hours (I'd say more like 16 but literature only

    supports 12). Once you have determined the optimum sprays then apply to the neck or other area with

    confidence.

    Bobby

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chemo (BDC Concepts)
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    polymers can be thought of like double sided velcro. On the bottom is the outer layer of skin (stratum corneum),

    the middle is the polymer, and the outside is the pheromone.

    The velcro (polymer) holds the other two

    together...or, holds the pheromone to the skin...depending on how you want to look at it.

    How does it work?

    Like most long chain polymers, the molecule is lipophilic (oil soluble) and dissolves the pheromones. What makes

    this hybrid formula special is that it is also hydrophilic. Technically, the hybrid polymer blend forms a phase

    boundary cohesion between the pheromones and stratum corneum. In simple terms, the hybrid polymer blend is like

    double sided velcro.

    Does this answer you question or did I miss the mark

    completely?

    Bobby
    Nope, you did a good job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by einstein
    Another question, then I'll stop bugging you. Any chance of these androgens being absorbed by the

    skin even without a transdermal carrier? I've read that DHEA can be absorbed through skin without a special

    carrier.

    They

    referenced this article
    . I know we're not talking about DHEA, and we aren't rats, but its close enough to

    get me wondering.

    On a different note, thanks for listening to us. Full disclosure of the contents,

    separate fragrance, 2 different sized atomizers, both unmarked, and reusable. That's everything we've ever asked

    for!! Thanks!
    I'll try to get a full text listing of that article but something tells me that a typical

    carrier was used (maybe even a patch) to deliver the DHEA. They are using the term "percutaneously" in the sense of

    a minimally invasive procedure...which has connotations of some carrier.

    In addition, that study deals

    directly with bioavailability of DHEA which is NOT the amount of transdermal flux. For example, let's say you

    applied compound A and compound B with each being 100 mg. Further, let's say that 1 mg of each was absorbed.

    However, compound A had double the measureable effect systemically. This would lead to compound A having twice the

    bioabilability of compound B even though each had the same amount of transdermal flux. In other words, compound A

    is stronger in effect. The study is saying that DHEA is about 30% as effective transdermally versus injection and

    that oral is about 10% that of transdermal. This is a mature topic in the world of anabolics and is aligned with

    current methodology (and is why our nutrition company makes a kick ass transdermal carrier!).

    Bobby

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unknownshadow21
    I would like to ask Bruce, Bobby or anyone who has already experimented with "Perception"

    what has been the results so far in terms of hits, ect...?
    No, inside to my question? : /
    "Most women stop being attracted to a guy because he lets her know too early in the interaction that he likes her."
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    I'll see if I can

    get a few to register and post their experiences.

    Bobby

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    Quote Originally Posted by nbnbtc
    And

    just what is the fragrance like anyhow?
    I would also be interested on the scent? How natural smelling

    is it?
    "Most women stop being attracted to a guy because he lets her know too early in the interaction that he likes her."
    ----Swinggcat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chemo (BDC

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    I'll see if I can get a few to register and post their experiences.

    Bobby
    Alright, Thank

    you !
    "Most women stop being attracted to a guy because he lets her know too early in the interaction that he likes her."
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