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    Exclamation California banned "ProHormones" ??

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    Does anyone have anymore information on this? I was looking through some sites looking for supplements

    ect... and I saw this at the bottom of a page:

    "Important - ONLY for the

    California customers:
    Recent changes to California law require a prescription for the sale of anabolic steroids

    and some of the ingredients found in the product. Since we do not sell prescription drugs we cannot ship this

    product to California residents
    . If you live in California and add this product to your shopping cart, we will

    not be able to ship it to you."





    http://www.a1nutritionpr

    oducts.com/buy/ErgoPharm/ergo_1ad?utm_id=1&utm_term=1%20ad



    Since almost all of the ProHormones sold as

    supplements are Precursors to Testosterone, does that mean that Pheromones or chemicals with "andro" in part of

    their names can't be sold it California??

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    I don't know. Where did you

    want to order Ph's?
    I ordered some M1T from 1fast400 some weeks ago, that stuff has some serious sides :S.

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    ... I hope you ordered some

    stuff for post-cycle and did a properly dosed cycle with your diet and training on. Methyl 1-testosterone is a very

    serious compound indeed.

    MB
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    Quote Originally Posted by beachboy
    I don't

    know. Where did you want to order Ph's?
    I ordered some M1T from 1fast400 some weeks ago, that stuff has some

    serious sides :S.
    I don't have a problem since i'm a NY resident, but those people in CA are screwed I

    guess.


    I also ordered M1T, I think it was 6 bottles of the 120 Capsules version (should arrive tomoro).
    I

    think I can handle it since i'm a big guy, my usual pro-hormone "stack" is:

    ----------
    Mourning,

    8:00am
    ----------

    6 Capsules of: Ergopharm 1-AD,
    6 Capsules of: ErgoPharm 6-OXO,
    1 Capsule of: Pregnenolone

    (50mg),
    2 Capsules of: D.I.M. (Di-Indolyl Methane, 400mg total),
    1 Tablet of: Multi-Vitamin,
    2 Capsules of: Milk

    Thistle (80% Silymarin, 400mg total).

    ----------
    Afternoon, 7:00pm
    ----------

    1 Tablet of: Horny Goat weed

    (1g),
    6 Capsules of: Nutrex : Vitrex,
    2 Capsules of: Biotest Red Kat,
    2 Capsules of: Eleuthero (Ginseng, 900mg

    total),
    6 Capsules of: Biotest Mag-10,
    6 Capsules of: Sci-Fit MastaBolan.


    After I take the afternoon stack

    I feel SUPER PUMPED and ready for a workout. I workout until failure then I take 1 pill of

    Remeron.

    Prescription, this stuff knocks you out better than any benzo, Ambien or DIPHENHYDRAMINE.

    Remeron also makes you

    want to eat like crazy which is great when your bulking up.
    -------------------

    For Breakfast:

    6-8 whole

    white eggs, 4 slices of whole wheat bread (with low fat butter), 4-6 sausages, a few slices of low fat cheese and a

    glass of %2 skim milk.

    For Lunch:

    Protein shakes: I subsitute 2 protein shakes (with 2% skim milk) for

    lunch. I usually wait a hour before drinking the second one.

    For Dinner (3 Hours before workout):

    1 pound of

    steak ect.. ect.. (try to eat low carbs, lots of meat).

    And from dinner to the time before working out I make

    sure to drink adequate amounts of water.

    I workout at night because if I work out in the mourning I would be

    dead tired the rest of the day. Also, almost all the muscle building/repairing happens at night. I've been doing

    this for two years with no health affects. Some products weren't available then, I would just subsitute them with

    something else. I also add Saw Palmetto to the stack but I ran out of it a few months ago and I always forget to buy

    it.

    Gains are usually 12-14 pounds of dry muscle (no bloat or estrogen from stack) in 4 weeks. I also get very

    vascular. I take 6 tablets of 6-OXO and Vitrix (tribulus) indefinitely to maintain gains.

    What sideeffects have

    you experienced from M1T?

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    *sigh* this is why there needs

    to be some way to get people to do more research on things... hint: 1-test is NOT a prohormone... it's an actual

    steroid.

    MB
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    1-AD converts to 1-Test

    .

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    Yes... but not very

    well...
    600mg of 1-AD is about 150mg of 1-test under active conditions.... sure... 6oxo will work for that for 4

    weeks by itself... but what I'm trying to say is that for m1t... it is a whole `nother game... people that have

    used steroids have had problems with m1t... is that enough to scare ya into doin some resarch?

    MB
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    Yeah i'm not a newbie into

    bodybuilding
    <- hint. :P
    I'm doing my PCT with nolva.

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    Sesshoumaru is the one that

    concerned me.

    MB
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    ~Becca

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    allright.
    M1T is kicking in.

    I just came back from the gym, i have some massive pumps. I'm getting some striae on my biceps

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManBeast
    ... I hope you

    ordered some stuff for post-cycle and did a properly dosed cycle with your diet and training on. Methyl

    1-testosterone is a very serious compound indeed.

    MB
    This compound or a closely related analog has also

    been studied as a pheromone within the perfume industry (I could be mistaken about the "1" part). I tried a

    small sample of it once, whatever it was. It had a mild, pleasant fragrance to it, and seems to have been derived

    from a wood or some other natural material.
    DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)

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    I'm not sure on that myself...

    I've never handled raw powder. I'm actually not a fan of m1t in light of other compounds avaliable.

    MB
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    What kind of compounds?,

    Gear?




    I like you site, very informative.

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    Gee, word is slow to get out - I

    just bought some 4-AD poppers this morning at the local health food store here in Silicon Valley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitehall
    Gee, word

    is slow to get out - I just bought some 4-AD poppers this morning at the local health food store here in Silicon

    Valley.
    Well stock up lol

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    damn i love this M1T stuff. My

    arms feel like they are gonna explode of these days
    My striae on my biceps is getting worse too

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    DR. In comment on m1t or an

    analog being used as a fragrance... A LOT of the hormonal powders I've used in my research have a very nice smell

    to them... Do you have any explanation as to why?

    MB
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    Like which hormonal powders?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachboy
    damn i love

    this M1T stuff. My arms feel like they are gonna explode of these days
    My striae on my biceps is getting worse

    too
    Use cocoa butter 15 minutes before workout, and right before bed... should cease from getting

    worse.

    Adams

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitehall
    Gee, word

    is slow to get out - I just bought some 4-AD poppers this morning at the local health food store here in Silicon

    Valley.
    Poppers??? I would definately look into else where for your 4-AD... not to be ignorant... but the

    poppers ended up being a joke... Take a look at www.1fast400.com will

    definately find better product for MUCH cheaper.

    Adams

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sesshoumaru
    Does

    anyone have anymore information on this? I was looking through some sites looking for supplements ect... and I saw

    this at the bottom of a page:

    "Important - ONLY for the California customers:

    Recent changes to California law require a prescription for the sale of anabolic steroids and some of the

    ingredients found in the product. Since we do not sell prescription drugs we cannot ship this product to

    California residents
    . If you live in California and add this product to your shopping cart, we will not be able

    to ship it to you."





    http://www.a1nutritionpr

    oducts.com/buy/ErgoPharm/ergo_1ad?utm_id=1&utm_term=1%20ad



    Since almost all of the ProHormones sold as

    supplements are Precursors to Testosterone, does that mean that Pheromones or chemicals with "andro" in part of

    their names can't be sold it California??
    In all reality, I cant see pheromones being a problem in

    california... they are just trying to rid Cali of performance enhancing supplements.

    Adams

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982
    they are just

    trying to rid Cali of performance enhancing supplements.
    Because the Governor's personal stash is

    dwindling.
    If a guy's a cocksucker in his life, when he dies, he don't become a saint. - Morris Levy, Hitmen

    Holmes' Theme Song

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holmes
    Because the

    Governor's personal stash is dwindling.
    lol... naw... i remember he was all about Deca, Primo, and

    Test. He would have NEVER touched the prohormones.. not hardcore enough

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    The bitch started dboll on his

    14th

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachboy
    The bitch

    started dboll on his 14th
    Man... I bet he has no testicles... cause man.. that would have stunted the

    hell out of his developing manhood.

    Adams

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachboy
    The bitch started

    dboll on his 14th
    Yup. And used ridiculous quantities.

    But it all paid off, didn't it? He

    basically owes his status as Governor/ Hollywood Hero to steroids.
    If a guy's a cocksucker in his life, when he dies, he don't become a saint. - Morris Levy, Hitmen

    Holmes' Theme Song

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManBeast
    DR. In comment

    on m1t or an analog being used as a fragrance... A LOT of the hormonal powders I've used in my research have a very

    nice smell to them... Do you have any explanation as to why?

    MB
    That I can't say, as I've not used

    those products much; just a little andro in the past, preg and DHEA.

    What did they smell like? (e.g., Woody?

    Musky?)
    DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holmes
    Yup. And used

    ridiculous quantities.

    But it all paid off, didn't it? He basically owes his status as Governor/ Hollywood Hero

    to steroids.
    Oh so true.

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    Steroids and ridiculous

    genetics.... No amount of anything can "give" you peaks like that on your bi's....

    MB
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    Default The use for poppers

    The

    sublingual 4-AD poppers are not for muscle building. I find their best use is for extra drive for sex. They also

    come in handy for workouts.

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