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    Default Putative pheromone activates cortical fields in the human brain...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neurochem Int. 2004 Jun;44(8):595-600
    The putative

    pheromone androstadienone activates cortical fields in the human brain related to social

    cognition.


    Gulyas B, Keri S, O'Sullivan BT, Decety J, Roland PE.

    Department of Neuroscience,

    Karolinska Institute, S-171 77 Stockholm, Sweden. balazs.gulyas@neuro.ki.se

    Abstract:
    Using

    15O-butanol positron emission tomography (PET), we measured regional cerebral blood flow changes in five healthy

    young women during exposure to androstadienone, a putative human pheromone, as well as pleasant

    (gamma-methyl-ionone), unpleasant (methyl-thio-butanoate), and neutral (dipropylene glycol; vehicle compound)

    odours. Compared with the odorous substances, androstadienone activated a widely distributed neuronal network. Two

    large cortical fields exhibited consistent activation in each contrast: the anterior part of the inferior lateral

    prefrontal cortex (PFC) and the posterior part of the superior temporal cortex (STP). Intriguingly, these areas were

    deactivated by gamma-methyl-ionone and methyl-thio-butanoate. These brain regions can be identified as cortical

    fields underlying other than olfactory functions, including various aspects of social cognition and

    attention.
    I don't know if these articles have been posted before so someone feel free to delete

    these if redundant.

    Looks like dienone may hold promise

    Bobby
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    Yep, this one has been talked

    about a lot, but the other A1 study hasn't. Plus, you can't publicise this stuff too much for all the newbies

    coming through.
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    Well, for those new

    to pheromones it may help to read that there is scientific evidence to support excitement in the

    brain.

    ...maybe if someone can dig up the old post and give it a good 'ole BUMP it might help re-ignite the

    discussion.

    Bobby

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    Lightbulb Analysis: A1 and the The State of the Art in Pheromonology

    Well, as it currently stands, A1 is looking to be the basic, effective pheromone of

    interest, due to the breadth and depth of activity (not just triggering), as well as its prominence on the skin; and

    the other -mones are looking like they function as modifiers of A1's broad, basic effect. So, for example, A1 gets

    their attention, fires up the social cognition, increases physiological arousal; and -nol/-rone/-none provides

    specific content to the social cognition and to activity on the arousal pathway.

    This all is just how it looks

    at the moment, but this is a significant (tentative) clarification of the picture, at least the 16-androstene

    picture we have been accustomed to discussing!

    This is good news for Pherin, and bad news for perfumers who

    work elsewhere. I'd like to see Revlon and the other corporate perfume giants spank them in court. Then we'd be

    "free" to perfume away!

    The role of DHEA-S has not been clarified, however. It might well be more basic than

    A1.

    It is also an interesting problem to be solved whether the well-known depressive side effects of A1 are

    simply a function of the amount of synthetic A1 used; or might be modulated by the presence of some other

    chemical (e.g., -dienol or some other pregnenolone metabolite) that would allow greater quantities of it to be used

    without side effects. I suspect the latter to be partially true, and that the secret ingredients in Chikara are

    likely candidates for this role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrSmellThis
    Well, as it

    currently stands, A1 is looking to be the basic, effective pheromone of interest, due to the breadth and depth of

    activity (not just triggering), as well as its prominence on the skin; and the other -mones are looking like they

    function as modifiers of A1's broad, basic effect. So, for example, A1 gets their attention, fires up the social

    cognition, primes the arousal pathway; and -nol/-rone/-none provides content to the social cognition and to activity

    on the arousal pathway.

    This all is just how it looks at the moment, but this is a significant (tentative)

    clarification of the picture
    , at least the 16-androstene picture we have been accustomed to discussing!




    If I am understanding this correctly, it would in part explain why we get such erratic responses

    to mones. One person can get away with wearing very smalll amounts and get hits where others wear 5-10 times the

    amount with little or no results. Unless they have sufficient A1 in their natural signature or there is some other

    simultaneous exposure to it, the other mones don't have a pathwway to create arousal.

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    I thought the sulfate in DHEA-s

    was just to increase polarity to make it easier to get rid of. That would mean the body was done using it. The

    sulfate ion also adds some weight, making the smell a bit less dispersable.

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    Actually, I've seen

    several studies that indicate a sulfonated compound is metabolized by cornyform bacteria preferentially (and each

    was measured on a log scale!). So, it would appear the inclusion of DHEA-s is to harvest ones own cornyform

    bacteria and produce a more natual pheromone signature.

    Bobby

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    Quote Originally Posted by belgareth
    If I am

    understanding this correctly, it would in part explain why we get such erratic responses to mones. One person can

    get away with wearing very smalll amounts and get hits where others wear 5-10 times the amount with little or no

    results. Unless they have sufficient A1 in their natural signature or there is some other simultaneous exposure to

    it, the other mones don't have a pathwway to create arousal.
    Could it be that LaCroy's secret

    ingredient does this (even if it is not A-1)??

    If so, it would be more reason to push for a secret ingredient

    additive....Stuff like AE just does not work that great for me, probably because I don't have too much a-1 (or LC

    secret) in my signature.

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    The function of the sulfate

    part is both to preserve is from unneeded, premature metabolism, enabling DHEA to be stored; and in my view, also to

    enable it to reach the skin where it can act as a pheromone. DHEA-S exists in large quantities on the skin, and can

    be converted to a variety of pheromones there. Therefore, I consider it to be a pheromone. When I take only 5mg of

    DHEA, I can smell it or its metabolites on my skin (e.g., forearms) 30 minutes later as a musky smell.



    I've been saying these things for a while now, for example:



    http://www.pherolibrary.com/forum/showth

    read.php?t=5338&highlight=DHEA
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