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    Hi,

    I've always had a

    problem with black baggy circles appearing underneath my eye and no matter how much I sleep I still get them. Does

    anyone know of any things that can help me get rid of them? I've tried cucumber treatment, drinking a lot of water,

    sleeping with a higher pillow but they still appear. Any ideas?

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    Preparation-H is will shrink

    eyebags temporarily. The only permanent fix I know of is to go under the knife.
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    Does that mean you can use

    Visine in your butt? I know you can use cucumbers there.

    In Chinese medicine, eyes represent kidney and

    pancreatic function. They also can show allergies and food sensitivities, as well as microbial imbalances. So that

    should be enough for you to investigate for a while. I believe they are your most likely culprits.
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    Use butcher's broom. It is a root

    that comes in little capsules. 500 mg, take 2. It will strenghen the capilaries and keep them from

    bursting.

    You can also use witch hazel. The pads that you do use for hermoroids (which are basically very

    similar to puffy eyes) are usually 50 percent witch hazel (it will say), and you can use that to wipe under your

    eyes.

    There's some kidney related stuff, but if it is chronic in you, my guess it is not jus some imbalance

    or food sensitivity. But you can use some sea salt or whatever to help your kidney if the above stuff doesn't

    work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrSmellThis
    Does that mean

    you can use Visine in your butt? I know you can use cucumbers there.

    In Chinese medicine, eyes represent

    kidney and pancreatic function. They also can show allergies and food sensitivities, as well as microbial

    imbalances. So that should be enough for you to investigate for a while. I believe they are your most likely

    culprits.
    You beat me to it.

    Dark circles indicate kidney, adrenal, and pancreatic

    deficiencies (along with possible allergies and food sensitivities.)

    No topical remedies have ever worked for

    me. Period. I highly recommend acupuncture.

    The bagginess is often indicative of allergies.
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    bags = fat. I'd go under the

    kinfe if i were you.

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    Listen to me and Holmes,

    except for the Visine part. Don't spend too much time or money on the topical stuff. This has to do with the rest

    of your body.

    Possible and common microbial problems, for example, include most prominently candida. These would

    be the more fundamental conditions if acute, and might require things like probiotics, garlic and oregano oil. A

    nutritional/suppplement approach works here.

    Kidney "Chi" and Pancreas Chi are related, in that one supports the

    other one when taxed. A good acupuncturist/Chinese herbalist can help you with that. Common stuff.

    Wheat/dairy

    food allergies/sensitivities are common examples in that category. You could try giving these up for a week and see

    if it helps. Regular allergies (e.g., dust, mold) could cause this too, with concomitant adrenal strain. Stress can

    also cause adrenal strain, as can excessive ejaculation.

    You should be able to treat this just fine of you

    explore all our suggestions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by beachboy
    bags = fat.

    I'd go under the kinfe if i were you.
    Geez!

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachboy
    bags = fat.

    I'd go under the kinfe if i were you.
    Really? I have bags under my eyes sometimes and am not the least

    bit fat. In some cases that is true. Age also contributes, as do medical conditions and heridity. They'd be a lot

    better off getting the opinion of a medical professional because it can indicate a serious problem.

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    Well I don't think its a medical

    condition because I had it since I was a little kid and my father also has dark baggy eyes so I thought it was just

    genetics.

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    Medical conditions can be

    genetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by avce
    Well I don't think

    its a medical condition because I had it since I was a little kid and my father also has dark baggy eyes so I

    thought it was just genetics.
    Drsmellthis has a good point. Would there be any harm in asking a doctor?

    You eliminate one possibility and he/she may have some suggestions based on medical facts even if it is not a

    problem. I've always found that getting expert advice first is the best course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belgareth
    I've always

    found that getting expert advice first is the best course.
    It is, but in many cases medical doctor

    does not equal expert. Many simply do not believe in acupuncture and other "holistic" forms of treatment. Sad but

    true.

    Find a good naturopath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holmes
    It is, but in

    many cases medical doctor does not equal expert. Many simply do not believe in acupuncture and other "wholistic"

    forms of treatment. Sad but true.

    Find a good naturopath.
    Both approaches have their strong points and

    should be included. An MD or a naturopath mean little unless they take the trouble to do their job correctly. Fools

    and charlatens in every field. I assume a person makes a point to find somebody competent.

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    Try butcher's broom and see if it

    works.

    If you have poor circulation (extremities get cold) then it should work for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belgareth
    Both approaches

    have their strong points and should be included. An MD or a naturopath mean little unless they take the trouble to

    do their job correctly. Fools and charlatens in every field.
    I agree. Explore all avenues. I was just

    saying that, in my experience, I've found even the most advanced and experimental mainstream practitioners to be

    shockingly closed-minded to treatments which, while outside the box, might actually improve and even save lives.

    That might have to do with locale, though. Integrative medicine is more commonly accepted on the West

    Coast.

    "Somewhere is the World's Worst Doctor. And somebody has an appointment to see him tomorrow!" -

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    Unless you have other

    symptoms, baggy eyes is the type of thing alternative care does better than allopathic care, IMHO. That is not to

    say you don't see what a western physician has to say.
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    Yah I plan to see my doctor about it

    next week and see what he has to say.

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    Thyroid problems are another

    possibility, but more women get those.
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    Why don't you go to 'Beauty

    Spa' and try the 'soft laser facial treatment' on your eyes. It tightens the skin as well as reduces the bags

    under the eyes. It's about $100-$150 per treatment depending on which spa you go to. You'll look like new after

    a set of 10-treatment sessions. They mostly come in 10 sessions - one per week.

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