Recent Chikara Shipment

[Infoyoda]

Ha...

Right now

who knows how much we need of Chikara and what is an OD and what is not. Seems like more than a drop is actually

right for you with PI, but keep in mind you are adding none with your chikara application, so your none level ends

up being higher.

I would think all that none would have been what put you in a bad mood, but it doesn't sound

like you have this problem when you wear a drop or two of PI straight...

NO, but I do seem to get a

wicked headache that lasts almost half an hour with two drops.

[koolking1]

geez I used about 4-5

sprays today and I have a headache too - felt like a "flu coming on headache".

[Infoyoda]

yup... I've had a runny nose

from it too... PI, not Chikara... no side effects to Chikara seen yet..
I actually quit using PI for a few days

when I felt I couldn't seem to shake a cold for over two weeks. Not that it's likely to be related, but with a day

or two I was well again and back on the Pheromone trail.

[Infoyoda]

Well.. bar was not very busy

and I just feel stupid sitting at a bar all by myself.. had one pint and cashed out... there wasn't even a tv for

me to pretend I was interested in to kill time.. man I'm bored...

And I added PI, so I have that low down

feeling again.. or I'm just feeling my age...

[InternationalPlayboy]

Guys,

Check your Chikaras! Anyone notice any phero crystals floating around in the bottle?

Those of you familiar with the Chem Set pheros have probably seen them before. The concentrations are so heavy with

the chem set items, that you can barely keep that amount of solid in solution. It has never been such a big issue

with the chem set because you just give it a little shake and you are good to go with your eye dropper. But I just

got a PM from a Chikara customer who says he sees "particles" in his Chikara that he thinks might be responsible for

the clogging.

B

I've got a bottle from the first shipment. Haven't had anymore problem with

the spray since the initial priming but decided to take a look. I can see what looks like very small particles of

something suspended in the liquid but nothing large enough that it looks like it would clog the head. Looks kind of

like dust floating in a sunlight beam for comparison.

[belgareth]

Guys,

Check

your Chikaras! Anyone notice any phero crystals floating around in the bottle? Those of you familiar with the Chem

Set pheros have probably seen them before. The concentrations are so heavy with the chem set items, that you can

barely keep that amount of solid in solution. It has never been such a big issue with the chem set because you just

give it a little shake and you are good to go with your eye dropper. But I just got a PM from a Chikara customer who

says he sees "particles" in his Chikara that he thinks might be responsible for the clogging.

B

If I

hold either of my bottles up to the light there are some small particles drifting around in there. The discription

of dust motes is about right.

[platinumfox]

I received mine on Wedsnday

it was a little clogged but thats good because I dont worry about spraying too much.Some spray bottles in the past

I'll spray and too much will come out so the clogging is a blessing in disguise.My Chikara was clear.

[Friendly1]

No particles in mine so far.

[InternationalPlayboy]

If

I hold either of my bottles up to the light there are some small particles drifting around in there. The discription

of dust motes is about right.

I should have mentioned that I had to hold my bottle up to the light

too, and then closely scrutinize it to see any floating particles.

[oscar]

Bruce,

When held in front of a

light and shaken, my bottle of Chikara does appear to have dust-like particles in it. They're extremely small, and

don't appear to be crystalline in any way, but then my bottle and sprayer work PERFECTLY. Since day one the thing

has delivered a perfectly vaporized TINY (perhaps less than one drop) spray, first time, every time.

My bottle

was from the second shipment of the first batch, after the initial 100 went out as I recall.

Oscar

[writerguy]

Got my Chikara a few days ago

and the pump worked fine after the first priming pumps.

Now the first spray of the day is light, then any

after that comes out strong, pretty predictable.

Keeping an eye out for hits -- of the two-legged variety,

anyway.

wg

[camusflage]

But I just got a

PM from a Chikara customer who says he sees "particles" in his Chikara that he thinks might be responsible for the

clogging.

Did he happen to mention his storage conditions for his mones? Mine are kept at a pretty

constant 68 degrees in the dark. I noticed my CS mones (especially rone) developed small crystals in them, but if

warmed in the vials for a few seconds in my hands, the crystals generally disappeared.

[Snoopy]

Got my first bottle of -mones

ever yesterday! My Chikara bottle wasn't full to the top, though, and the package was wet and the ink on the paper

it came with was too smudged to read

I'm excited about it nonetheless since I really like the smell of it

and I'm having dinner with a LJBF tomorrow night, so I'm curious to see her reaction from it.

I tried using the

Chikara this morning, but after several failed attemps at getting the sprayer head to work, I decided to give up

since I was going to be late for work. Hopefully I'll be able to get it working by tomorrow.

I also have "dust

particles" in mine if I hold it up to a light.

[Bruce]

Snoopy,
Sorry about the Chikara.

You just got the bottle yesterday?!? We haven't shipped any in quite a while. Where do you live?

I thought

those "dust particles" might have been pheromone crystals, but at that concentration, I don't think so and with

summer temps and the frequency of the reports, it seems very unlikely. I am quite sure it is nothing harmful at

all, but if for no other reason than the spray head function, I think we need to filter the stuff better when we

make the next batch.

Bruce

[DrSmellThis]

Interesting about the

particles. Haven't noticed any, but will start observing more closely.

[Mike413]

Just got my bottle of Chikara.

It arrived last week some time after I left for vacation and has been sitting in the rental office of my apartment

complex until today. Unfortunately, it looks like 1/3rd of it leaked out while it sat for a week in its envelope on

its side... It's only filled up slightly past the Chikara Beta label.

When held up to the light, my bottle

also has little particles in it. The spray works ok though.

Any type of additional discount for people who got

partially filled bottles due to leaky tops? Or can I return it for a full bottle?

[Friendly1]

Are you guys really sure about

these particles? I don't see any in my bottle, but the bottle appears to have hundreds of tiny little pock marks

or scratches. I am sure they are in the bottle as they are stationary.

I also keep my bottle on its side much

of the time but have noticed no leakage. Sounds like I am lucky.

[Snoopy]

Bruce,

My Chikara was shipped

on 7/14/04. I live in Toronto, Canada.

I finally got the spray working, it sprays perfectly now

[belgareth]

Are you guys

really sure about these particles? I don't see any in my bottle, but the bottle appears to have hundreds of tiny

little pock marks or scratches. I am sure they are in the bottle as they are stationary.

I also keep my bottle

on its side much of the time but have noticed no leakage. Sounds like I am lucky.

Yup, there are little

particles drifting in my bottles.

[CptKipling]

I also keep my

bottle on its side much of the time but have noticed no leakage. Sounds like I am lucky.

No leakage from

mine either.

[Bruce]

Guys,

This shipment we are

selling now was made from the same batch, using the same sprayheads, so results should be similar, but we have some

ideas how to make future batches work better with the sprayheads.

Thanks for the feedback.

Bruce

[Cavalry_414]

Im kind of a week off topic

here, but Infoyada: hope you got a break from traveling. Maybe that's part of was getting you down, all the hotels

and strangers. Hotel bars can be strange places. <br> Anyway, anyone have any thoughts on using straight phero

concentrates like PI or Wagg in the atomizer. Here is why I ask: I've read (other places) not to "atomize" pheros

and to either put them on straight or mix them in solution w/a cologne. The instructions from Athena 10x is one of

the sources for this and no reason was given. I'm just wondering if there is any validity because it of course

contradicts many methods I read here. Any thoughts, or has anyone heard this? By the way, Athena 10x was my first

hero purchase a couple years ago and I had zero results, ever. I'm just starting back up trying new products I

bought here for about the last 5 months. I'm having a good time. <br> My current mix I'm field testing is 1 drop

of PI:2 drops WAGG undiluted and applied with atomizer, with half a pack of SOE (unscented) and a cover smell.

<br>
BTW, ditto on the headaches and slight mood changes (PI). I got one shipment the other day where a couple

SOE packs had split at the seam and when I opened the mailer and took them out of the bubble wrap I almost instantly

had a headache. Interesting. <br> Thanks for all the good posts, shared experiences and introspection by everyone

here. This is a neat society of people.

[DrSmellThis]

It seems to me that is the

particles were causing the spray head problems, one would be like ly to see them work great at first and then start

to malfunction later as they get clogged.

[Bruce]

It seems to me

that is the particles were causing the spray head problems, one would be like ly to see them work great at first and

then start to malfunction later as they get clogged.

Very good point. There is talk that it is

caused by one of the ingredients in the Chikara, but now that I think about it, seems like your point would apply

there too.

Thanks,
B

[renodude]

Bruce
I received my Chikara

from the new bamboo label batch this week, and the spray head does not function correctly; liquid wells up around

the OUTSIDE of the spray stem. The nozzle in the spray-head is clear of obstruction, it passes air, but no fluid

comes up the inside of the stem. It's usable, but dosage control is hard, since the liquid has to be wiped off the

bottle onto my skin. I really like the roll-on that SOE uses, perhaps you can use that instead?
RD

[metroman]

My bottle of Chikara came from

the beta batch & I have had no problems at all...I frequently carry it in my pocket, put it on its side in my drawer

at work & it has never leaked. Also dont notice any particulate in the formula itself. I cant understand why so

many are having problems. I really like the way the sprayer head delivers small precise sprays. I wish TE had the

same sprayer on their product. Maybe the sprayer heads weren't crimped on properly in some cases? Just a guess.

[InternationalPlayboy]

Mine was from the

beta batch too. I haven't had any problems with the spray head since the initial priming and there has been no

leakage. I second Metroman's opinion on the spray head's precision, I really like it. It's too bad others are

having problems. I'd rather see the defects with leakage and clogging worked out than to go to another application

system.