geez I used about 4-5
sprays today and I have a headache too - felt like a "flu coming on headache".
geez I used about 4-5
sprays today and I have a headache too - felt like a "flu coming on headache".
yup... I've had a runny nose
from it too... PI, not Chikara... no side effects to Chikara seen yet..
I actually quit using PI for a few days
when I felt I couldn't seem to shake a cold for over two weeks. Not that it's likely to be related, but with a day
or two I was well again and back on the Pheromone trail.
Well.. bar was not very busy
and I just feel stupid sitting at a bar all by myself.. had one pint and cashed out... there wasn't even a tv for
me to pretend I was interested in to kill time.. man I'm bored...
And I added PI, so I have that low down
feeling again.. or I'm just feeling my age...
I've got a bottle from the first shipment. Haven't had anymore problem withOriginally Posted by Bruce
the spray since the initial priming but decided to take a look. I can see what looks like very small particles of
something suspended in the liquid but nothing large enough that it looks like it would clog the head. Looks kind of
like dust floating in a sunlight beam for comparison.
If IOriginally Posted by Bruce
hold either of my bottles up to the light there are some small particles drifting around in there. The discription
of dust motes is about right.
I received mine on Wedsnday
it was a little clogged but thats good because I dont worry about spraying too much.Some spray bottles in the past
I'll spray and too much will come out so the clogging is a blessing in disguise.My Chikara was clear.
No particles in mine so far.
I should have mentioned that I had to hold my bottle up to the lightOriginally Posted by belgareth
too, and then closely scrutinize it to see any floating particles.
Bruce,
When held in front of a
light and shaken, my bottle of Chikara does appear to have dust-like particles in it. They're extremely small, and
don't appear to be crystalline in any way, but then my bottle and sprayer work PERFECTLY. Since day one the thing
has delivered a perfectly vaporized TINY (perhaps less than one drop) spray, first time, every time.
My bottle
was from the second shipment of the first batch, after the initial 100 went out as I recall.
Oscar
Got my Chikara a few days ago
and the pump worked fine after the first priming pumps.
Now the first spray of the day is light, then any
after that comes out strong, pretty predictable.
Keeping an eye out for hits -- of the two-legged variety,
anyway.
wg
Did he happen to mention his storage conditions for his mones? Mine are kept at a prettyOriginally Posted by Bruce
constant 68 degrees in the dark. I noticed my CS mones (especially rone) developed small crystals in them, but if
warmed in the vials for a few seconds in my hands, the crystals generally disappeared.
Got my first bottle of -mones
ever yesterday! My Chikara bottle wasn't full to the top, though, and the package was wet and the ink on the paper
it came with was too smudged to read
I'm excited about it nonetheless since I really like the smell of it
and I'm having dinner with a LJBF tomorrow night, so I'm curious to see her reaction from it.
I tried using the
Chikara this morning, but after several failed attemps at getting the sprayer head to work, I decided to give up
since I was going to be late for work. Hopefully I'll be able to get it working by tomorrow.
I also have "dust
particles" in mine if I hold it up to a light.
Snoopy,
Sorry about the Chikara.
You just got the bottle yesterday?!? We haven't shipped any in quite a while. Where do you live?
I thought
those "dust particles" might have been pheromone crystals, but at that concentration, I don't think so and with
summer temps and the frequency of the reports, it seems very unlikely. I am quite sure it is nothing harmful at
all, but if for no other reason than the spray head function, I think we need to filter the stuff better when we
make the next batch.
Bruce
Interesting about the
particles. Haven't noticed any, but will start observing more closely.
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
Just got my bottle of Chikara.
It arrived last week some time after I left for vacation and has been sitting in the rental office of my apartment
complex until today. Unfortunately, it looks like 1/3rd of it leaked out while it sat for a week in its envelope on
its side... It's only filled up slightly past the Chikara Beta label.
When held up to the light, my bottle
also has little particles in it. The spray works ok though.
Any type of additional discount for people who got
partially filled bottles due to leaky tops? Or can I return it for a full bottle?
Are you guys really sure about
these particles? I don't see any in my bottle, but the bottle appears to have hundreds of tiny little pock marks
or scratches. I am sure they are in the bottle as they are stationary.
I also keep my bottle on its side much
of the time but have noticed no leakage. Sounds like I am lucky.
Bruce,
My Chikara was shipped
on 7/14/04. I live in Toronto, Canada.
I finally got the spray working, it sprays perfectly now
Yup, there are littleOriginally Posted by Friendly1
particles drifting in my bottles.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
No leakage fromOriginally Posted by Friendly1
mine either.
Guys,
This shipment we are
selling now was made from the same batch, using the same sprayheads, so results should be similar, but we have some
ideas how to make future batches work better with the sprayheads.
Thanks for the feedback.
Bruce
Im kind of a week off topic
here, but Infoyada: hope you got a break from traveling. Maybe that's part of was getting you down, all the hotels
and strangers. Hotel bars can be strange places. <br> Anyway, anyone have any thoughts on using straight phero
concentrates like PI or Wagg in the atomizer. Here is why I ask: I've read (other places) not to "atomize" pheros
and to either put them on straight or mix them in solution w/a cologne. The instructions from Athena 10x is one of
the sources for this and no reason was given. I'm just wondering if there is any validity because it of course
contradicts many methods I read here. Any thoughts, or has anyone heard this? By the way, Athena 10x was my first
hero purchase a couple years ago and I had zero results, ever. I'm just starting back up trying new products I
bought here for about the last 5 months. I'm having a good time. <br> My current mix I'm field testing is 1 drop
of PI:2 drops WAGG undiluted and applied with atomizer, with half a pack of SOE (unscented) and a cover smell.
<br>
BTW, ditto on the headaches and slight mood changes (PI). I got one shipment the other day where a couple
SOE packs had split at the seam and when I opened the mailer and took them out of the bubble wrap I almost instantly
had a headache. Interesting. <br> Thanks for all the good posts, shared experiences and introspection by everyone
here. This is a neat society of people.
It seems to me that is the
particles were causing the spray head problems, one would be like ly to see them work great at first and then start
to malfunction later as they get clogged.
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
Very good point. There is talk that it isOriginally Posted by DrSmellThis
caused by one of the ingredients in the Chikara, but now that I think about it, seems like your point would apply
there too.
Thanks,
B
Bruce
I received my Chikara
from the new bamboo label batch this week, and the spray head does not function correctly; liquid wells up around
the OUTSIDE of the spray stem. The nozzle in the spray-head is clear of obstruction, it passes air, but no fluid
comes up the inside of the stem. It's usable, but dosage control is hard, since the liquid has to be wiped off the
bottle onto my skin. I really like the roll-on that SOE uses, perhaps you can use that instead?
RD
My bottle of Chikara came from
the beta batch & I have had no problems at all...I frequently carry it in my pocket, put it on its side in my drawer
at work & it has never leaked. Also dont notice any particulate in the formula itself. I cant understand why so
many are having problems. I really like the way the sprayer head delivers small precise sprays. I wish TE had the
same sprayer on their product. Maybe the sprayer heads weren't crimped on properly in some cases? Just a guess.
Mine was from the
beta batch too. I haven't had any problems with the spray head since the initial priming and there has been no
leakage. I second Metroman's opinion on the spray head's precision, I really like it. It's too bad others are
having problems. I'd rather see the defects with leakage and clogging worked out than to go to another application
system.
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