Look em dead in the eye and say:
"Hi, would you like to go out sometime? I think you should I am almost perfect."
hey guys .. yup it's me again kB .. yah just wondering how to pick up a stranger ... it's funny because my
friends(girls) they tell me that guys (the ugly ones) go pick dem up and they would backtalk about it and laugh
about it .. they'd even talk about hot fit guys and laugh too ... i'm just hoping i won't be one of them to
others ... so whats the best way to pick up a girl or start a conversation ??
Scene 1: A girl is just siting
there bored to death. What do you do!
Look em dead in the eye and say:
"Hi, would you like to go out sometime? I think you should I am almost perfect."
-D
Modifying and Tweaking is a journey,
Not a destination..........................
Sometimes it's as easy as
looking her in the eye and saying, "Let's get out of here". Depends on what she wants and whether you are what she
wants.
Seriously tho, Check out David
DeAngelo's material. It helps with building up confidence and approaching women. helps you create the proper mind
set so you dont come off as needy and desperate.
-D
Modifying and Tweaking is a journey,
Not a destination..........................
I'm more of a fan of Ross
Jeffries than David DeAngelo. They are the two most well-known names in the "industry." DeAngelo doesn't get too
involved with NLP and Speed Seduction, although he makes references to it; he's more conservative in his
approaches.
Then again, who am I to judge the masters
Oh, and, a little bird told me
that you can pick up DeAngelo's entire seminar series on SuprNova.org (BitTorrent). In case you, uh, broke your
DVD
thanks a lot bro
btw man i
know you have to d/l something inorder to get the d/l's to work i forgot what it was called do you have the site
? for the download manger (or your bird hehe)
Originally Posted by skaepSbaS
Exactly. The best thing you can do is listen to advice
dispensed by myself and some of the other old cahoots around here. Listen and go out and apply it.
Now I not
that old, but let's just say that if I was a chick I might be starting a slight maturity sag
I envy you
young guys, I really do. If the internet was around when I was a teeniebooper I would have been so much better
prepared to deal with girls.
I spent my late teen years and early twenties obsessed with persuing my auto
racing career. I didn't pay socializing with chicks much heed. They were always around but it was mainly a one
night stand and poof.
Once the career was declining and injuries took there toll, I had to deal with the girl
skill problem square in the face. I did most of my work by trial and error. I stopped putting women on a pedestal
and quit assigning higher value than me.
I used my strong points, personality and terrific sense of humor to
my benefit. I treat women very well, but never let them walk all over me.
I don't consider any women out
of my league. I don't think of myself as really good looking(though many say I'm tall, dark and handsome). I try
too take looks out of the equation as much as possible.
Learn to do things that give you confidence in
yourself. Go to places where women are(dance, cooking, self defense classes) talk to women. Stay awy from oneitis.
It is a killer. And don't be afraid to say NEXT! Bad relationships are worse than listening to Bobby Vinton sing
"I'm Mr. Lonely" while playing pocket pool. Talk to all women short, tall, fat, thin, hot, fugly.
And when
all else fails, look around you at all the freaking people that are married. Good heavens if so many of those people
can do it then so can you.
Tips
1. If you know she is
going to be around for a while wait 5 minutes or so to approach her. (otherwise you come off as pushy, desperate,
wierd, or over-bearing)
2. If she isn't going to be around for a while (like if she is passing you or getting
ready to leave an establishment) don't even think about it and do it. Remember hesitation can cause fear. Just act
on it. It will go much smoother than if you ponder it then try and recoup.
3. Look her in the eye's and think in
your head your just being friendly and you are not going to try and lay her right then and there. Think=Just being
cool and friendly here....nothing more. This takes the pressure off.
4. Don't let her see you hitting or
approaching anyone eles or you may seem like an over bearing desperate person.
5. Ask if you can talk with her
again some time for whatever reason or another. Then the ball is in her court. If she acts funny about it just keep
talking and act as if it didn't faze you and then in a bit see if you can have her number very unpushy like(you
gotta try it).
6. If she says no don't act like it fazed you or you are disappointed keep talking for just a bit
more and then tell her that you would really like to have a conversation with her again and give her your card.
Don't say anything like hope you call me or maybe I'll talk to you soon just let it go and tell her bye.
7.
Remember to act as if she is not so much a potential lover or sex partner while your talking to her just act as if
you're just being cool and funny and don't give hewr any compliments yet.
That's
all you gotta do.
Happyman
Originally Posted by dping28
And then you hear a big slap too the face :P
DZorro,
If it ain't broken don't fix it.
Originally Posted by kossBass
Had to
www.bittorent.com
Or you could try this http://www.torrentstorm.com/
Torrentstorm is
the on i use alot. And it's great too.
But both should work regardless of the other hopes this
helps.
DZorro,
If it ain't broken don't fix it.
Originally Posted by happyman
Great tips. here ya go some good rep points
DZorro,
If it ain't broken don't fix it.
Thanks!Originally Posted by DZorro
Ian
And even if they do laugh with you, what's the big deal? You are not going to go anyOriginally Posted by kossBass
far away with this if you dont try your luck several times. If you notice that they dont want to chat or are
avoiding you, just go to the next one in line.
Young girls tend to be VERY selective in choosing who to talk
to,sleep with etc. , maybe because they dont even know what they are looking for in a guy.
thanks a lot guys for your help
.. rep points for everyone very helpful thanks again.. (and thank you happyboi for the tips )
Hmm there is no search function
on suprnova.org. I can't find the link to DeAngelo's stuff.
Never mind, i already found it
I thought it were e-books or something, but it are movies.
You will learn many useful
things if you take an acting class. Social skills are skills. They are a craft. You need to learn them from someone
who has good skills, then you need to practice them. It doesn't happen by magic.
When I took a beginning
acting class I was blown away by the things beautiful young things would do and say in a class setting. You learn to
be comfortable playing every taboo topic and scene you can wrap your mind around. You can try out variations on you
approach. Then you learn how much of social life is acting anyway.
Know how to get to Carnegie Hall ?
Practice.
It's called BitTorrent.Originally Posted by kossBass
Google is your friend.
beach boy in which part of the
movies is the Dangelo stuff?
Action, adventure?
Which one?
And do you know how to open this
stuff. I already found it, but how I open it?
Regards
Tell us more. It seems that when I hear other people hitting on girls it isOriginally Posted by surfs_up
if they are on stage and it seems kinda corny but it really seems to work for my buddy. It seems as if he is kinda
acting it out but the chics bite hard on that rap. I always thought....Geez how can they go for that? But then as I
get older I realize that that is kinda how you gotta be in modern day courtship.
Are there any videos that teach
you this? and what do you mean by the surprising things girls would say and do in the acting enviorment?
Like
can I have some examples?
Thanks,
Happy
Never put em on a pedalstool -
give them respect but do not worship them - their heads get to big or you come across as desperate - if you are
failing to attract any women without phermones look at youreself and see where you are going wrong (are youre sights
set to high - ie are you to picky - are you overweight - big turnoff. - you may need to do some gym work. Might
take 6 months but work on it. - are you a bum - being unemployed and unmotivated is not a good thing - get off the
PC and go do some work unless you are a online sharetrader like i do for a fair whack of my earnings in that case
its ok.
Work on conversation and pick up skills - do you bother to talk to women - do you smile ? all these
helps im sure its all covered here and all over the board but its basic hints and tips to follow.
Focus on the woman. Observe.
Avoid being too aware of yourself.
What's she doing? Looking to do? Where's she coming from? What's her body
language? How does she react to your being in the room?
Don't be self conscious, just objective.
What's the evidence? What's your intuition?
Are you even attracted? Why? Can you guess anything about
her personality?
Value the deeper observations (e.g., unconscious body language vs. overt actions and speech)
more than surface ones, when they conflict.
If overall conclusion is a go, then just say "Hi," or make an
observation about something she's doing. Don't let yourself lust if you can avoid it. Just be "plain ol' you."
(If she seems interested, you can sometimes just say "hi" and then shut up with a slight friendly smile, putting the
pressure on her. She will think of something to say rather than accept silence.)
Again observe. If neutral or
positive reaction, say something about the situation; reflect the situation. (e.g., "Looks like you're writing a
novel".)
Ask a question or two, one of which is open ended. Go with the flow.
Be very present, and try to
relax. Hear every word she says and think about it. Observe her expressions, body language, etc.
Think of the
most appropriate and least threatening way to continue the conversation, if it's going well. Be friendly and offer
her the continuation, unless you dont want to and/or will see her again soon.
If she doesn't open up right
away, just go about your business, don't apologize, say "bye" or act self-conscious. Nothing about you is relevant
anyway, as you already had and have your part covered. Often they will open up something if you just stay cool, are
satisfied doing your thing, and appear satisfied with the interaction so far. (thus helping her think it went
well) Don't fidget, just be "at peace".
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
You want to study Improvisation
(often called Improv). This is a class exercise where the group suggests a dramatic moment of some form, say, you
are both walking your dog and happen to have identical breeds and bump into each other and then you have to invent
the conversation for a minute of two. Improv isn't scripted. There is no memorizing lines. You take the situation
as it is given to you and invent the dramatic interaction. You'll learn a huge amount about how to socially
improvise on your feet. If the teacher is good, he or she will give you feedback on what you need to work on, where
to focus you attention, how to get unstuck from a dead spot in the scene, how to change rythms, what an emotional
beat is. It's super basic nuts and bolts work on how to be social in an effective way. Imagine that you have to do
a scene where you try to pick up a beautiful girl in front of a class of twenty people. Think you're self conscious
now ? Then those twenty people tell you in detail what your strengths and weaknesses are. You can't get better
instruction than that. Actors are paid on the basis of how well they can communicate emotion. They work hard to
master it. If you're exceptionally good you make 20 million dollars to do it in front of a camera. The actors that
are paid millions have gone to their share of classes. How many of your friends would you pay money to watch them
try and hook up with a girl, that it would be that compelling a performance ?
Much of the above is easier
said than done. Dr. brings up some good points about body language and mid conversation reaction. There is much to
be said about approaching someone and being just as concerned with THEIR responses are as they are yours. That
being said, lets talk about breaking the ice. Many people here reading this seeking advice have probably said or
thought at one time that if they could only get a conversation started, this person would enjoy their company and
they would be more successful. Think of a house party setting where most people usually have something in common
(i.e. they know someone) which is a good basis for a conversation. How do you know Jim or Sarah? The idea is that
you are taking a step foward, skipping a step almost, and reaching a psuedo comfort area by association. Now, there
are a million variables and the above may not apply. In a bar, club, or other setting where you are attempting to
interact with complete strangers, the "Hi how are you" speach is normal, effective for some, but clearly typical. I
have given advice to at least 10 people who did not know where to go from there. They will say HI! to someone and
have nothing else to say after that. Play this out:
Hi, how are you
Doing alright...
Good to
hear..
Whats your name?
Jennifer
Whats yours?
Rick..
Ummm how are you??
Yeah, you already
asked that . Essentially you are setting yourself up for a normal friendly interaction and inherently, those
reading this seeking advice, already have a hard time with this part, and hell, even getting THIS far. Now for a
moment, let us not forget about our pheromone supplementation. There is something to be said about prolonging an
interaction to the point where a target can take quite a few whiffs and maximize that potential. We want to develop
a situation where we can avoid the typical, Hello how are you, situation and develop some sort of conversation with
content. If you have that ability to kick something off with the traditional method and be successful, more power
to you, but for those who are lacking skills, get nervous, etc, but at the same time recognize that they truly have
intelligence or otherwise something they feel would be interesting to a target, we are looking for a way to
demonstrate that. Think about flipping the script a bit. If you are at a bar and you notice the bartender did
something out of the ordinary to a woman you are targeting, comment on it to her and try to develop from there. An
excellent technique is to get a woman's opinion, ESPECIALLY in a bar or club setting. Women love to comment on
their feelings, opinions, etc. and will do so more when under the influence. Think of ANY situation that is open
ended and approach someone you are interested in asking their opinion. For example, if you are with a friend,
approach a woman and say, excuse me, I need a woman's opinion here.... my friend here is debating with me on what
a good surprise might be for his girlfriend just to show some affection and was considering doing a dozen roses.
Now, I thought that maybe women might feel that is over done a bit, but at the same time, I recognize there is
probably a large amount who would just love that! What do you think? Are flowers overdone? What is a good idea?
What would you like to see if you were in a relationship as a sign of affection? There are million different things
you can do to get a woman's opinion and I have never had a women NOT give it. This is something a shy person can
script to break the ice and get going with things and it will usually get a response out of a women enough to break
way through the approachability factor. Your friend will inherently know what you are doing but you can even have
them help you out without looking like a couple guys who are out to get a piece. From there, options are open.
Many many techniques are available for exploration. I tend to focus, when approaching women, on those things that
will get THEM speaking and allow ME the chance to respond and challenge them accordingly, rather than working into a
situation where you have to play into the normal questions and then run a blank saying....well, it was good chatting
with you!??? I could go on for hours .
Matt
BDC Concepts
ExcellentOriginally Posted by surfs_up
advice.
I would add as an aside, though, that big-name actors are (more and more) often paid millions according
to how well they elicit an emotional response in the paying public first and foremost and how convincingly
they reproduce emotional states themselves second. More than a few highly-paid actors have inexplicably
not mastered the latter and are instead sliding by on raw "charisma" (read: sex appeal). Orlando Bloom,
anyone?
So, sometimes making 20 million dollars has little to do with being "that good." But, again, point
taken.
Good point, Holmes, and good
post, Bobby. Surf's up's stuff is good too, if you want to take a class.
There should be coed classes on bar
and coffee shop conversation and behavior skills, as much as the continuation of our species (monkeus indenialus)
depends on it!
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
If you are lucky enough to get a
conversation going with her/him, LISTEN to them and take mental notes. Remember the things that they are saying
because if you do end up getting a date with them it will make you look like you are really interested if you can
bring up some of the things that he/she mentioned during your first conversation. That's very important.
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