Originally Posted by fran1
maybe your applying to
much. Try toning it down a little , and see if you still get the same recation like before, witch version of SOE/m
do you have ?? do you have the regular SOE/m or gell version ???
DZorro,
I bought a new SOE again. I
believe in the product of JVK a lot, but here is my problem.
when I try to make a conversation,womens look me
like hypnotized(dihl mix with another planet face), like they dont listen what I am saying and put their eyes down
when I am speaking.....I need to repeat twice my words.......
with mens its almost the same, but I dont kert
about them.
Another thing, when womens look at me first, they do it very aggresively and is hard for me to look
at them without put my eyes down (damm it). I can not resist their eyes looking at me too much. (I need more
confidence with this SOE)
Other problem is when I look at them first, they fell scared, thats why I prefer that
they looked me first, but I need a technique to keep me confident with SOE.
Without SOE I fell more confident
anyways but I dont know how to reach this confidence level with SOE.
When I was having SOE in my body, I was
trying to think that I dont have SOE with me, to try to keep a placebo effect with my usual confidence but I was not
successful.(too much staring, that make me put my eyes in a book or down)
For me SOE is like a wild horse that I
need to dominate but I still dont know how.
I was thinking to take PROZAC and them applying SOE---a joke---
Please give advice around the world, how to control this HORSE.
Originally Posted by fran1
maybe your applying to
much. Try toning it down a little , and see if you still get the same recation like before, witch version of SOE/m
do you have ?? do you have the regular SOE/m or gell version ???
DZorro,
If it ain't broken don't fix it.
Fran how much and howOriginally Posted by fran1
frequently are you using it? I myself only need a small dab the size of a pencil eraser to get a reaction from it.
When using a larger dose say on the weekend if going out, at most a couple of inches well distributed. I also can
get build up with SOE...so I have to be aware of that & not use it every day. I'm definetly sensitive to it & less
is more are words I have to live by when using this stuff. I think there is a misconception among some people that
you cant OD on this stuff or its a lot harder to OD on it. I'am not one of these people. I think its just as
powerful as some of the others just different. Also if you want to up you're confidence level try adding some of
the straight none products...for me NPA is a more overt confidence booster whereas PI is more subtle &
underlying.
My advice (back to DIHL) is use
less SOE.
You have to learn eye
contact. Seduction sites have an eye contact exercise that is good, but basically involves just practicing it -- not
being the first to flinch at first glance. Force it. Force yourself to relax while doing it, even if you have to
zombie yourself mentally.
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
Never a problem for me, Doc.Originally Posted by DrSmellThis
You've obviously mistaken me for someone who gives a fv<k, 'cause I make 'em pay for it.-Sagacious1420
Originally Posted by DrSmellThis
Sounds interesting, any more insight Doc?
DCW
Ha, ha. That's so funny because today at the bus stopOriginally Posted by DrSmellThis
I was staring in the direction of the bus, which happened to be right in the direction of the girl standing next to
me...she looked at me, and I could've smiled or something but instead was too zombified to move...
It's a
shame, too, because she was hot in that "librarian" sort of way (wearing glasses and a conservative dress that you
could just...well, you get the idea...)
No more insights -- that's
basically it. Just make eye contact and make her flinch first. You establish "domination". However long she holds it
is her choice. Just practice on the street, in clubs, wherever.
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
Originally Posted by DrSmellThis
Sounds interesting,
will give it a shot a liitle worried about the axe murderer stalker impression though.
You mention some web
sites.
DCW
Are you sure that won't make us
seem stalker scary? I recently saw the eye contact exercise on a seduction site, and started to try it out but I
was worried I might scare the girls. Staring at someone from 15 meters seems a little strange. I'd probably be
wierded out if someone did that to me.
Women do it to me, so why
can't I to them? look at how many times you've tried to check out a woman only to find her looking directly into
your eyes! What do you do? Turn away, right? Well, I hope not. That is a sign of submission --- not a good sign for
a woman looking for a strong man who can handle all her "roller coaster emotions", show her some fun, and help her
feel stable. It's not bad to look at someone's eyes! You don't need to be intimidating. Just be peaceful on the
inside, with maybe a very slight "inner smile." Pretend you're trying to go to sleep. You are the Budda! Why
should you break away? You're not having a problem with it. You trust yourself that you're not an axe murderer. If
she starts looking scared, you can always break away for her, but not because you're conscious of yourself. What do
babies do with others? Look at their eyes very steadily! Does anyone accuse them of being axe murderers? If women
are going to judge you for something this silly, let it be their issue. Just don't be tweakin' when you do it! You
can also look at it as a fun experiment and decide to quit the practice if it doesn't work out. What's the worst
that can happen?
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
Generally, if a guy is
interested in a women, he will catch her gaze and hold it. If she is interested in him, she will look him in the eye
and then look down submissively. Therefore she will break eye contact first.
It doesn't mean you have to
stare her down like a stalker. Just look at her long enough to communicate you're interested. It won't take you
long to see if she's interested or not.
"I have a hammer! I can put things together! I can knock things apart! I can alter my environment at will and make an incredible din all the while! Ah, it's great to be male!"
--Calvin & Hobbes
I agree and disagree with this. Yes, that's true,Originally Posted by Sexyredhead
but women will look and look away even if they're not interested...and I'm waiting for the retort where there's a
"subtle difference" that men are just not going to get so you might as well just throw us a freakin' bone...
If she doesn't look down as
she looks away--as in, if she looks off to the side, but not down--it generally means she's not interested.
If you're not sure, catch her gaze again. Just don't stare at her all night hoping she'll changer her
mind.
"I have a hammer! I can put things together! I can knock things apart! I can alter my environment at will and make an incredible din all the while! Ah, it's great to be male!"
--Calvin & Hobbes
And also, if she doesn't roll
her eyes and start shaking her head and guffawing uncontrollably..
Originally Posted by JustPeachy
Yes,
these are very subtle signs that she might not be interested. Be sure to watch closely for them.
"I have a hammer! I can put things together! I can knock things apart! I can alter my environment at will and make an incredible din all the while! Ah, it's great to be male!"
--Calvin & Hobbes
Im currently working on
maintaining eye contact, its a very difficult thing for me, Ive always been an extremly submissive person. never
could maintain eye contact. in fact it used to freak me out. but ive gotten better. I can hold eye contact with guys
without a problem now, girls tho is still taking some pushing. Id say I am able to do it up until its a girl I am
interested in, the ones that matter.. Im such a wuss..
-D
Modifying and Tweaking is a journey,
Not a destination..........................
Again, I think that we need to
control the Horse that is inside SOE.
The advice of the Doctor is good and I try it today and works but change my
style. I will still using it unitl I get accustomed to this.
Other point is that the heat make the Soe more
stronger, without applying in the skin, only in the clothes.
I follow the advice of DZORRO and Metroman to apply
a little bit.
For general info, the eye contact is one of the most important body language that I want to learn
to use.
Yeah, like SRH says!Originally Posted by Sexyredhead
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
I've been told I have an intense stare so I HAVE to look awayOriginally Posted by DrSmellThis
sometimes. Otherwise a girl may get scared. Especially when I'm talking to people and I want them to be
comfortable...during the conversation I'll just glance away from time to time.
I'm not recommending staring
at someone during conversations.
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
Why not, isn't that polite ??Originally Posted by DrSmellThis
mm i guess now
i found my problem. Have to change that, thanks doc
DZorro,
If it ain't broken don't fix it.
Again, despite the fact that everybody will back up your statement...and I'm not sayingOriginally Posted by Sexyredhead
it's wrong...but if you're walking by someone, it's natural to look down before passing and look up right after
you've just passed the person. I agree that what you've said is true, but I'm just saying that it's normal
psychology to do the same thing in normal passing-by...believe me, as a person who seems to love watching the
silliness of our habits, I've watched many people walk by with there head down only to pick it back up when I've
become only a final blip in their peripheral vision.
I guess the real point isn't that I don't believe
you...it's that if this were true, I've passed hundreds upon hundreds...maybe thousands...of women that found me
attractive...and this just isn't possible in my oh-so-humble mind.
Are they just looking down? Or
are they looking down then to the side? Just looking down i believe is just a sign of submission. especially since
they look back up after passing.
-D
Modifying and Tweaking is a journey,
Not a destination..........................
I believe the "then to the side"
is the key sign of attraction.
-D
Modifying and Tweaking is a journey,
Not a destination..........................
Walking by someone is
different from just looking around. A lot of people don't look down when they walk, btw, and if they aren't
interested will glance at you, then go back to looking straight ahead or glance off in the other direction as they
pass you. If a woman is looking at the ground, glances up at you, then looks back at the ground without looking at
you again, I'd say she just dismissed you. If she keeps looking back at you, she's probably interested or she's
trying to figure out what's on your t-shirt.
If you really want to get picky, what would you do if you
were magically transported down South, where everybody smiles and says 'hey' to everyone they pass? Would that
mean everyone was interested? No.
"I have a hammer! I can put things together! I can knock things apart! I can alter my environment at will and make an incredible din all the while! Ah, it's great to be male!"
--Calvin & Hobbes
Originally Posted by dping28
Actually, the 'to the side' is usually a sign
of dismissal if it wasn't preceded by looking down.
"I have a hammer! I can put things together! I can knock things apart! I can alter my environment at will and make an incredible din all the while! Ah, it's great to be male!"
--Calvin & Hobbes
Just like in the North, just because someone looks at you andOriginally Posted by Sexyredhead
looks down doesn't mean anything because that's what people normally do here.
I swear I'm writing a script
for a movie that will get men and women on one system...I'm instituting my ring system and inventing new universal
body language signals that aren't so subtle in difference to normal actions.
I meant the "toOriginally Posted by Sexyredhead
the side" from "Looks down then to the side"
-D
Modifying and Tweaking is a journey,
Not a destination..........................
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