1980 in America. An inept peanut
farmer from Georgia in the Whitehouse. We had hostages for over a year in Iran.The military morale was low. Soviet
and other Marxist expansion moving all over the world. Unemployment very high. 21% intrest rates. Major energy
crisis.
On the night, Ronald Wilson Reagan beat the Georgia farmer in a land slide, I cried tears of joy. It
was my first time to be allowed to vote for President. I was pround to vote for President Reagan. And after 8 years
he didn't let me down. History doesn't lie. It will show for the most part President Reagan's policies were sound
and successful.
As far as I'm concerned the
coverage was backwards...what was given to Reagan should've been given to Ray Charles...Ray Charles contributed a
lot more positive, joy & happiness to this world than Reagan could ever dream of. Ray Charles was a true
humanitarian & creative genius...Not a televsion network manufactured icon...
Like it or not, it is what we as
American's do when a President dies.
http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/duluthsuperi
or/8887284.htm
I like being able to make fun of
any celebrity whenever I want. But it seems that whenever one of them dies we can't do it for a few weeks.
Instant temporary sainthood upon death.
When Nixon died, nobody said anything bad about him for about a month.
Sonny Bono died, and for a couple weeks he was talked about as a good politician, not just Cher's less talented
sidekick. Kurt Cobain died, and he's still revered by people my age, even though the seattle grunge movement is
long dead.
The round-tables I saw on TV this morning were saying the exact same things about Reagan as you guys
are. But that cartoon made me realize, until now about 75% of the coverage on Reagan was about his personality.
One the day he died, the TV people would briefly say something good about one of his policies, and then tell a
couple stories about how personable he was. Today is the first day I've seen people actually debate his
policies.
Metroman, I feel for ya. Maybe I'm cold and heartless, but I have no interest in seeing Reagan's
coffin on TV. He's dead, part of history. No longer a current event. This sort of thing happens anytime a
celebrity dies. In two months we'll be able to insult Reagan to our hearts content, and nobody will be vehemently
defending him like now.
If it was on every channel you
turn on and had it on forever then yeah i can see being upset over it. But the man was our president, wether you
agree with his views or not. he deserves some respect. a couple days i dont think is too much to ask for. Least that
is my opinion.
-D
Modifying and Tweaking is a journey,
Not a destination..........................
That's so true, einstein.
Observing the memorial is an act of respect attached to the family and friends who mourn the loss as much (or even
more than) the person who has passed away. It's such a simple and decent act. You don't have to enjoy or approve.
Just do and be done.
Pardon my cynicism, but I don’t see
this as sensitive network executives helping loved ones grieve their loss. It’s a mass media cluster f@#k. Everybody
scrambling to squeeze as much profit and political milage as possible out of an event before the brand name’s
forgotten.
I’ve already gotten junk mail trying to sell me Ron and Nancy portraits. And we all know it won’t be
long before there’s a new Ray Charles box set.
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I wouldn't presume to speak for all American's...Rather it is what some, orOriginally Posted by Elana
a lot of, or maybe even most of...but I wouldn't say it's what all Americans do.
Excellent points Einstein
& AKA!
Oh man....Look....I am saying that
it is how we as American's cover the death of a President. We have been doing it since Kennedy was shot. I am not
saying that all American's have to like it or watch the coverage or be happy that it is a federal holiday. I am
saying that that is the way we do it, for both Democrats and Republicans
Well, yeah, of course
Republicans are milking it for themselves a bit. But two wrongs don't make a right. It didn't hurt to grieve over,
say, a Nixon. People went back to hating him (or his actions) just fine, thanks. But it's a nice human
gesture for any public figure in one's own culture, particularly a leader. Grief ties folks in a community, nation
or larger culture together.
Another aspect: Unfortunately for our short-term gratification -- the immediate kind
that comes with black and white thinking -- Satanizing or dehumanizing one's enemy obliterates the very
understanding that leads to solutions to the problems that that enemy might create. (Here comes the "I read it twice
and it still doesn't make sense" comments.)
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
"Run that by me again...what theWell, yeah,
of course Republicans are milking it for themselves a bit. But two wrongs don't make a right. It didn't hurt to
grieve over, say, a Nixon. People went back to hating him (or his actions) just fine, thanks. But it's a nice
human gesture for any public figure in one's own culture, particularly a leader. Grief ties folks in a
community, nation or larger culture together.
Another aspect: Unfortunately for our short-term gratification
-- the immediate kind that comes with black and white thinking -- Satanizing or dehumanizing one's enemy
obliterates the very understanding that leads to solutions to the problems that that enemy might create. (Here comes
the "I read it twice and it still doesn't make sense" comments.
hell are you talking about?"
Tricky Dick didn't get a State Funeral like Ronnie did...Thats like
Washington's way of giving negative rep points...
I hate when they have 24/7
coverage of something on every major station when a good way to move on with your life is to get away from it...
...so I read a book and hit the gym.
I shun TV during the following times:
Olympics
9/11 (I don't
believe it's healthy to watch those towers fall for the 2,000th time...I also don't believe in trying to point the
finger when it's over and blaming someone in the government is not going to turn back time and prevent
disaster)
Major events I do not care for
I'm glad everyone else is having a fine time watching these
events, but I would prefer to live my life as anyone involved in these events would want me to do. They're
happy...I'm happy. It's all good.
It's amazing the amount of
stuff you get done once you learn you can turn the TV off.
"I have a hammer! I can put things together! I can knock things apart! I can alter my environment at will and make an incredible din all the while! Ah, it's great to be male!"
--Calvin & Hobbes
I never watch TV except for maybe
one tv show a week. Now turning off the computer is a whole other story.
-D
Modifying and Tweaking is a journey,
Not a destination..........................
Watching televisionIt's
amazing the amount of stuff you get done once you learn you can turn the TV off.
has become such a pointless waste of time. I haven't bothered with it in years.
The last thing I watched on
tv was the Stanley Cup playoffs. That's my only use for a tv anymore, other than as something to play a DVD on.
"I have a hammer! I can put things together! I can knock things apart! I can alter my environment at will and make an incredible din all the while! Ah, it's great to be male!"
--Calvin & Hobbes
Who won? The Jets?
Da Bears.
Da
Bulls.
Who won? The Jets?
Yes. The Tampa Bay Jets. The Stanley Cup is in Florida, where it belongs. And my Canadian
friends are pissed. AH, life is good.
I knew that, Tounge
Having the Stanley Cup "belong" in Florida is like having a team called the "Juneau Icicles"Yes. The Tampa
Bay Jets. The Stanley Cup is in Florida, where it belongs. And my Canadian friends are pissed. AH, life is
good.
dominate the World Series.
That being said, congrats.
"Jamaica has a bobsled team..." --- Cool
Runnings
Yes. The Tampa Bay
Jets. The Stanley Cup is in Florida, where it belongs. And my Canadian friends are pissed. AH, life is
good.
The "Tampa Bay Jets" !!??? you must be joking.
The Tampa Bay Lightning, no worries the
best players are still Canadian...and er Russsian and Checz,,Sweds...
DCW
No. The Lighting are a New York football team
that plays in New Jersey.
And I am worried, I still think the best hockey players are Kenyan and Chileians.
It is always chilly in Chile, so they have better weather to practice in.
RIP - Ronnie Raygun
He was a great man, as well as a great leader.... he will be sadly missed.
After 4 years of Jimmy Carter nearly anyone would have done. Still I liked Ronald Reagan and
may he rest in peace. He certainly did bring a lot of morale back to the country.
"I hate when they have 24/7
coverage of something on every major station when a good way to move on with your life is to get away from
it...
...so I read a book and hit the gym."
Most of you are too young to have seen the Kennedy
Funeral!
Unlike this past weeks coverage, the coverage was 24/7 from an hour after the shooting until a couple of
hours after the burial, and the nation was glued to their TVs. A different age altogether!
Oh, yes, you know
that tape of Jack Rubie shooting Oswald? The first time I saw it, it wasn't on tape!
Some people
are still glued to their TVs...WTC had people glued for days...weeks...I just think that Reagan's passing was
inevitable since he had Alt---however you spell that...he lost his memory. (at myself) Had he been
shot...again (yeah, I remember the first one)...and killed at the height of his presidential career, things
might've been different...that's not to say that millions weren't watching this event...I bet they were. In
fact, everyone here was itching to be a part of a "great moment in history"...
Wow, I'd love to hear that
Oswald story, by the way... *oo: smiley from old forum*
"Wow, I'd love to hear that Oswald
story, by the way...'
Not much of a story.
I was in 10th grade, was sitting in front of the TV drinking
some OJ. There was live coverage of Oswald being transfered, and all of a sudden...
Well, you've seen the tape
in History class, I'm sure.
Whoa! I bet you still see that one vividly.
Somewhat, however there was worse to come in my life (think Viet Nam).
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