mones to break up a relationship?

[Elana]

Mucho respect given to the guys that were able to approach this with an opened mind and take the time to see it

from a different point of view. The one thing that is still truly bothering me is Dzorro\'s use of the word SPAM

in this thread. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[Elana]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Elana, you and DST are the closest thing to Alpha

I\'ve seen on this board, each with your own different views but presented in a coherent, helpful way, and maybe

sometimes a little bit ball-busting.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

If it came down to it, I

could kick his ass. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[tallmacky]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Let people be people.

<hr /></blockquote><font

class=\"post\">

Yes, let people be people. Let your girl walk out of the house without smelling like

freakin\' man juice. I digress, I don\'t care if he cuts his girlfriend up in little pieces and eats her, his

deal and not my problem. When he starts in on someone here, it of course is my problem, I have no choice. This along

with guys thinking this is the solution or this is the way to go, things have been boiling over for some time.



So no I don\'t care that he sprinkles -mones on his girls clothes, but if he expects us to take it

seriously, and by him making a post of it he is thus asking for a response, despite any clique that exists

here.

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />

Tailmckey, you posted way too much

nonsense for me to respond.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Well firstly thanks for the

subtle name change, very cute. I don\'t want you to respond and it may be a shock but I wasn\'t directly

speaking to you through the whole thing.

Did this topic start out as just a guy secretly spraying -mones on a

girl\'s clothes? Yes, but what has been boiling over here for some time is the underlying and bad position guys

take there, that don\'t help them at all. That\'s what all of my \"bullsh*t\" was about. It was just a wake up

call, if what many of those here are doing was working then, I wouldn\'t say anything, but things were just simply

bubbling over. Tongue am I supposed to be thrown back by your demeanor. As much as you didn\'t want to read my

post

I didn\'t feel like writing it, I had 2 finals today, but it had to be done, things were way off, and

you should never leave a friend alone. Whatever [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]. If you didn\'t

read it, so what, I don\'t give a skunks smelly booty, if you think its nonsense, then thats cool with me, you

have every right to your opinion. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

In a nutshell, most of

the stuff and attitudes that guys bring here does not help in getting them that oh so desirable POOTANG PIE!

[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Those who say pheromone discussion has gone downhill, would

this post have brought it up any, made it more respectable? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] It

would have been left as a simple opinion and no long text if the lashing out didn\'t erupt.

[koolking1]

I\'m going to be helpful to WMD1. Many states now have laws prohibiting salesclerks in department stores from

spraying scents onto people without their permission - the laws were enacted to protect people with allergies. What

you are doing may be illegal in your state.

[bjf]

LOL.

Arrest the man!

Seriously, I think it is interesting that the pheromones may have kept men away. When he

originally asked about it, people didn;t seem to think it would help. So I think it is an interesting situation

(yes I think it is shady, but it is over with nonetheless). Too bad no real discussion came out of it, maybe we

could have learned something new.

[Elana]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
LOL. Arrest the man!

Seriously, I think it is

interesting that the pheromones may have kept men away. When he originally asked about it, people didn;t

seem to think it would help. So I think it is an interesting situation (yes I think it is shady, but it is over

with nonetheless). Too bad no real discussion came out of it, maybe we could have learned something new.

<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

He came off as credible to you, bjf?

[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

[tallmacky]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
LOL. Arrest the man!

Seriously, I think it

is interesting that the pheromones may have kept men away. When he originally asked about it, people didn;t

seem to think it would help. So I think it is an interesting situation (yes I think it is shady, but it is over

with nonetheless). Too bad no real discussion came out of it, maybe we could have learned something new.

<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

The greater question is how would you explain that to your girlfriend?

[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] That would sound f(ck up.

[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Ok lets talk about that now.

I wonder if by

spraying TE/M on a girl if it will keep other guys away, or boost their test and make them want to [censored] her

harder than hell?

These questions can\'t just be answered with simpleton notations on what occurs in a

given situation. Its not even possible to figure it out. Do Copulins work on for men? Anyone have any conclusivie

evidence or more hearsay? Why not test it out, spray TE/M on the hottest girl you know or don\'t really know but

look at a lot. I guarantee it won\'t stop her game.

I am sending all of my TE HEAT to Elana tomorrow, let

her try it.

[bjf]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font

class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
LOL. Arrest the man!

Seriously, I think it is interesting that the

pheromones may have kept men away. When he originally asked about it, people didn;t seem to think it would

help. So I think it is an interesting situation (yes I think it is shady, but it is over with nonetheless). Too

bad no real discussion came out of it, maybe we could have learned something new.

<hr /></blockquote><font

class=\"post\">

He came off as credible to you, bjf? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]




<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Hell if I know. With Fran1, someone was calling him Larry. And

then people said mark1 was fran1/larry. And then wmd1 is supposed to be this guy, or maybe someone else. I guess

you guys know about some larry dude or someone i don;t know about.

But if someone is really trying to take on a

new personality, would they be dumb enough to keep putting 1\'s on the end of their name? Or is this guy trying

send a message that he is ____.

Obviously you are in the know or something Elana, so who the hell is Larry?

[Pancho1188]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
LOL. Arrest the man!

Seriously, I think it is

interesting that the pheromones may have kept men away. When he originally asked about it, people didn;t

seem to think it would help. So I think it is an interesting situation (yes I think it is shady, but it is over

with nonetheless). Too bad no real discussion came out of it, maybe we could have learned something new.

<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

I think the real kicker is if the person testing it on their gf got hit on

by women and she left him for one of them...that\'d be the ultimate justice for someone trying that without a

girl\'s consent.

[Elana]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
well guys, its been a week now, and all i can say

is my phero chasity belt seems to be working even better than expected. My best friend ( who had a crush on my woman

whenever she was around ) has even backed off from her...there is only one problem, how can i get rid of all the

lesbians that got turned on by the TE? other than that, it seems to work well...remember, lightly mist on clothes

once over before the week, and keep a bottle of PCC close bye so it will at least keep you going and you wont lose

interest like all the other guys..

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
bjf....again I ask...does he

come off as credible to you?

[tallmacky]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Tallmacky, don\'t flame a person for wanting to

look better. Deep down, it still feels good when people APPROVE of me. I hate admitting it, it\'s wimpy,

non-alpha, etc. But EVERYONE feels good when they know they look their best, I\'m just searching for what my best

could be. I will get over it in time, but for now it\'s

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Pantero

I wasnn\'t trying to make you feel bad, if I did then I am sorry on that issue. I did not judge your looks, I said

merely asking for advice is not always best, but hey atleast you ask and I have to say that is more than I

do.

You also have very big balls to put your picture up on a forum it takes nerves, I remember when you first had

your picture up Elana mentioned to me that \"Unlike many he has a lot of guts to let himself be judged in front of

everyone\"

Besides you are my favorite greasy sex symbol!

Ok enough of my nonsense posting. its time to go

take another Final Exam right now, and I won\'t fail this one like I just failed the other one.

[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[CptKipling]

penis

[Elana]

Lizard

[bjf]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font

class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
well guys, its been a week now, and all i can say is my phero chasity belt

seems to be working even better than expected. My best friend ( who had a crush on my woman whenever she was around

) has even backed off from her...there is only one problem, how can i get rid of all the lesbians that got turned on

by the TE? other than that, it seems to work well...remember, lightly mist on clothes once over before the week, and

keep a bottle of PCC close bye so it will at least keep you going and you wont lose interest like all the other

guys..

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
bjf....again I ask...does he come off as credible to you?



<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Yea, now that I see that, he\'s definitely an oddball, but

either he is eccentric and smarter than us, eccentric and he gets wierd thrills by making up bs, or eccentric and is

being honest but just isn\'t all that smart.

I am not to familar with his history of posts. Like anyone on

this forum I have no reason other than to take their word for it. But I guess you were aware of his track record.

But if he didn;t seem credible to you, why did you believe him that he even sprayed edge on his chick? Ahh, who

knows, who cares.

[CptKipling]

I am relieved to see that a well placed penis can still disrupt an intellectual discussion.

[DZorro]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Mucho respect given to the guys that were able to

approach this with an opened mind and take the time to see it from a different point of view. The one thing that is

still truly bothering me is Dzorro\'s use of the word SPAM in this thread.

<hr /></blockquote><font

class=\"post\">


Yes, sorry bout that, maybe i should have left that part out.


DZorro,

[Elana]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font

class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Mucho respect given to the guys that were able to approach this with an

opened mind and take the time to see it from a different point of view. The one thing that is still truly bothering

me is Dzorro\'s use of the word SPAM in this thread.

<hr /></blockquote><font

class=\"post\">




Yes, sorry bout that, maybe i should have left that part out.


DZorro,

<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Dzorro...remember the other day you got an email thanking you for your

mortgage? That is SPAM. Do you ever get emails asking you if you want a bigger penis for $19.95....that is SPAM

[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[Elana]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
I am relieved to see that a well placed penis can

still disrupt an intellectual discussion.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">



[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] It\'s the greatest distraction

[DZorro]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font

class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Mucho respect

given to the guys that were able to approach this with an opened mind and take the time to see it from a different

point of view. The one thing that is still truly bothering me is Dzorro\'s use of the word SPAM in this thread.



<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">




Yes, sorry bout that, maybe i should have left that part

out.


DZorro,

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Dzorro...remember the other day you got an

email thanking you for your mortgage? That is SPAM. Do you ever get emails asking you if you want a bigger penis for

$19.95....that is SPAM [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

<hr /></blockquote><font

class=\"post\">

Those things, get quite confusing sometimes

[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]


DZorro,

[Elana]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font

class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr

/>
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Mucho respect given to the guys that were able

to approach this with an opened mind and take the time to see it from a different point of view. The one thing that

is still truly bothering me is Dzorro\'s use of the word SPAM in this thread.

<hr /></blockquote><font

class=\"post\">




Yes, sorry bout that, maybe i should have left that part out.


DZorro,

<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Dzorro...remember the other day you got an email thanking you for your

mortgage? That is SPAM. Do you ever get emails asking you if you want a bigger penis for $19.95....that is SPAM

[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Those things,

get quite confusing sometimes [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]


DZorro,

<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Don\'t worry Dzorro. It is all in my book.

[wmd1]

wow,

all this caused by little ol\' me? all i can say to everyone is this:
1. this is a forum about guys trying to get

laid using pheros...
2. i dont give a [censored] what anyone thinks, if you have something constructive to say,

cool, if not, then dont waste your precious time and life energy and mine too reading and writing crap that doesnt

help anyone or give an objective analysis.
3. ELana: if i wanted the opinion of a woman on the ethics of using

mones to help keep guys away from my girl, i would have posted it in the \"WOMANS\" forum and asked...... why are

you ball busting in the guys forum? Is that how you treat men in your own life? no amount of pheros will attract a

guy to a person who spews venom the way you do.
4. thank you to all the \"intelligent\" open minded, non

judgement people who have tried to give me an objective opinion and defended my right to post without being

censored. to you all, thanks!

im outta here! talk at yall later!

[DrSmellThis]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font

class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Elana, you and DST are the closest thing to Alpha I\'ve seen on this

board, each with your own different views but presented in a coherent, helpful way, and maybe sometimes a little bit

ball-busting.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

If it came down to it, I could kick his ass.

[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">


[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[Elana]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
3. ELana: if i wanted the opinion of a woman on the

ethics of using mones to help keep guys away from my girl, i would have posted it in the \"WOMANS\" forum and

asked...... why are you ball busting in the guys forum? Is that how you treat men in your own life? no amount of

pheros will attract a guy to a person who spews venom the way you do.


<hr /></blockquote><font

class=\"post\">
Thanks for thinking about me, but no need to worry. I do just fine with the boys. Wanna hear

something cool? I don\'t have to trick them into liking me. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[BigGulp]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
wow, all this caused by little ol\' me? all i can

say to everyone is this:
1. this is a forum about guys trying to get laid using pheros...
2. i dont give a

[censored] what anyone thinks, if you have something constructive to say, cool, if not, then dont waste your

precious time and life energy and mine too reading and writing crap that doesnt help anyone or give an objective

analysis.
3. ELana: if i wanted the opinion of a woman on the ethics of using mones to help keep guys away from my

girl, i would have posted it in the \"WOMANS\" forum and asked...... why are you ball busting in the guys forum?

Is that how you treat men in your own life? no amount of pheros will attract a guy to a person who spews venom the

way you do.
4. thank you to all the \"intelligent\" open minded, non judgement people who have tried to give me

an objective opinion and defended my right to post without being censored. to you all, thanks!

im outta here!

talk at yall later!

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">




toad.


With a small \"t\"!

[Sagacious1420]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Would it be possible to use masculine

mones to create suspicion in her boyfriend? If I were to secretly smear some androstenone or A1 on her neck?

<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

einstein-

While reading your post my 1st reaction was that the scent of

another man\'s cologne would raise more suspicion than the presence of some added none or other \"male\"

pheromones. In a very generic sense, both men and women have \"male\" and \"female\" hormones in their systems

in proportions that are gender specific. If this is the case, then women would exude pheros derived from

testosterone metabolites and therefore aren\'t bereft of \"male\" mones on their skin, just as it would stand to

reason that men would likely exude some degree of \"female\" pheros. Again these would be gender specific. Make

sense? If the idea that the presence of some none on a woman were inappropriate, then I think that Lacroy would

eliminate the none from their women\'s products and merely sell the secrets in the women\'s formula.

Furthermore, in a generic sense, if none signals aggression, then could it not be possible for a woman\'s SO to

interpret a hightened level of none to simply mean that she could be angry or in an aggressive/agitated state? Since

when is aggression an exclusively male state, right? It seems that none can sometimes elicit a \"competitive\"

response in some men. If this is actually true, then it\'s quite possible that it could make a woman\'s SO

respond by competing more aggressively for her attention/interest/affection. IMO looking merely at the phero side

of it leaves a lot more room for \"maybes\", while the strong sent of a man\'s cologne could be more difficult

to misinterpret/dismiss. Make sense? Now if you combine both mones and the scent of a cologne, it could serve to

compound matters.

There are a plethora of other factors to consider as well. Such as the quality/strength of the

relationship and the degree of bonding between them, etc.

Your inquiry has raised some questions in my mind w/

regard to a recent \"relationship\". A young lady that I know fairly well was experiencing a rocky phase in her

relationship w/ her bf and they were on a break. Keep in mind that her bf has a huge cirlcle of friends and I was

one of the few guys that she knows who doesn\'t know her bf. I ran into her while out one night, she told me that

they had borken up and hinted that she wanted to go back to my place for some drinks. While we were talking

(actually she did 90% of the talking), she said that she loved him but wasn\'t sure about the future of the

relationship. She also wasn\'t sure if it had more to do w/ the sexual side of the relationship since he was the

only guy she\'d been w/ after moving to the area and on the rebound no less. Basically she was looking for a

discreet fling w/ someone to whom she was attracted, someone outside of her bf\'s circle to explore/test her

feelings for him.

During the course of our little fling there were a few occasions in which she had met up w/

him to talk about things right after having had sex w/ me. Btw, I wasn\'t wearing pheros every time that we

hooked up, e.g. if we bumped into each other while out running errands . So imagine this scenario. I\'m wearing

my phero mix, we\'ve recently finished having some good sweaty sex during which I\'m sure a fair amount of my

synthetic and natural mones (and cologne) were transferred to her body, the phone rings, she answers and it\'s her

bf wanting to meet to talk. She gets up, gets dressed w/out showering first and heads out the door to meet w/ him.

After the first time this happened she mentioned that all of the sudden he seemed to be very motivated to work

things out. Could have been a coincidence to be sure. This happened like 3 or 4 other times and after each of

their meetings she would comment about how much he was really sucking up to her and willing to suddenly make

concessions to win her back. A strategy that could very easily work against him in the long run imo, but she was

enjoying the idea of being in control of things for the moment...she felt empowered by it. Could still be nothing

except that on other occasions where we hadn\'t been together (in any sense of the word), their talks didn\'t go

well and he was very distant/unwavering.

Eventually we became careless, ppl started spotting us out in public

together and being a bit too \"friendly\". Ppl began to ask her what was up w/ her and her bf. Naturally ppl

began to ask him similar questions about their relationship and about a week ago she got the \"we really need to

talk\" phone call. Keep in mind that she wasn\'t necessarily wanting to completely end their relationship,

merely testing the waters so to speak. We talked about things and I encouraged her to give it another shot. She

knew that I wasn\'t looking for a relationship w/ her or any of the other girls that I\'ve been seeing. Yes, she

knew about the other women before we began this whole thing which in her mind made me a great candidate for a fling

as there would be no strings. Besides, she\'s not someone that I would consider to be relationship material

according to my standards.

I\'m sure there were many factors involved in this whole thing, but I can\'t help

but wonder about her comments regarding her bf\'s sudden change of heart/behavior whenever seeing him right after

having had sex w/ me while I\'m wearing my phero mix. Based on what she told me, things didn\'t go that way

when we hadn\'t been together. So who really knows.

[Sagacious1420]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font

class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
i sprayed the edge all over my girlfriends clothes before her event around a

bunch of guys...her response to me after the event \"none of the guys would talk to me or even look at me hardly,

do i have a nose hair or bad breathe?...i smiled sweetly

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

I bet

her clothes smelled wonderful. That was nice of you. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">Yep, a real sweetheart alright.

lol! I can just picture all those guys

huddled together saying \"well, yeah she\'s good looking and all, but how many cat\'s do you think she owns?\"

What a tragedy to be labelled a spinster at her age. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

[Sagacious1420]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
i sprayed the edge all over my

girlfriends clothes before her event around a bunch of guys

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
okay, calm down...all i did was lightly spray a very

small amount on the shirt, nothing major...it was diluted alot as well.

<hr /></blockquote><font

class=\"post\">I can\'t help but wonder which is the truth. Was it sprayed all over her clothes or just tiny

bit of diluted TE only on her shirt? Hmmmm, curious indeed.

[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]


</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr

/>
it was just enough to give other willing males the impression of \"not interested in this scent\". i mean,

think about it, the edge for men has male pheros in it, so therefore, other males wouldnt be so quick to want a

piece of it.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">You really believe that? I guess you failed to consider

the fact that products like TE/w and AE/w both contain none and yet work very well for

women.


</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
its like a phero chasity belt, no harm

done excpet i may have hindered some males from being too interested

<hr /></blockquote><font

class=\"post\">Exemplifies the brilliance of a well informed and enlightened man perfectly.

[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr

/>
does anyone have any posiitve remarks instead of giving me a sermon? thanks

<hr /></blockquote><font

class=\"post\">Positive comments for you? No. Sermons for you? No. Credibility for you? No.

You\'re

welcome.

[Sagacious1420]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
My comments aren\'t about ethics.

They are about stupidity. AE/W has none in it. Works great for women.

<hr /></blockquote><font

class=\"post\">

[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[Sagacious1420]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
well guys, its been a week now, and all

i can say is my phero chasity belt seems to be working even better than expected. My best friend ( who had a crush

on my woman whenever she was around ) has even backed off from her.

<hr /></blockquote><font

class=\"post\">
In all seriousness, are you certain that this is a good sign, a sign of success? You were

probably better off when your \"best friend\" openly had a \"crush\" (what is this junior?) on her whenever she

was around. You\'re probably safe if he flirts in front of you, it\'s when he stops and begins to \"act\"

uninterested that you should worry. That\'s when you should begin to suspect that he\'s bangin\' her.

Isn\'t that usually how these scenarios play out and nearly always w/ your \"best friend\"? You may really want

to reconsider your proclamation of success. I\'m serious.

Btw, could it be that this \"best friend\" issue

was the impetus for your brilliant idea to \"mark your terrtory\" and not the event involving these other guys?