Beta-nol + Androsterone in large groups

[Visionary]

Hi guys and especially to those who have tried Beta-Nol,

I really like SOE/m but the problem for me

is that it can make me depressed the day after I apply it as the Nol converts to None. What im wondering is does

Beta-Nol actually convert to the same pheromone (Androstenone) as Alpha-Nol?

On me SOE/m makes me feel happy,

relaxed, euphoric and tired at times, and a bit silly and overtalkative. Given that Beta-Nol seems to elicit (from

user reports) a less \'neurotic\' form of chattiness and maybe more friendliness, how would u characterise the

difference between it and WAGG in terms of effects on the user?

Thanks,
Visionary

[Sagacious1420]

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Has anyone tried a-nol with b-nol? And

what amounts of b-nol are you finding most effective?

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">Yes. I\'ve

been working w/ them for several months now and have tried varying ratios. I get the best results from 1:1. A-nol

elicits a response best described as \"neurotic\" chattiness. B-nol encourages increased comfort/relaxation. The

combo of the two reminds me a great deal of the WAGG effect...that is, ppl are often surprised at the personal info

that they\'ll reveal about themselves. A tiny dash of WAGG can accentuate this effect even more. However, I

don\'t find that the nol combo can counter the effectiveness of none as WAGG does. That is, if I use equal parts

of WAGG and none, then the influence of the none is lost and yet I can use a greater proportion of the combined nols

than none w/out losing the none effect.

[Sagacious1420]

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SRH -

Have you thought about buying CS Rone or did you get that with

your b-nol?

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Nope. Just got the beta-nol. I have two almost

full bottles of AEw. Maybe when I run out I will get some CS -rone. I\'m thinking I might add a little b-nol to

the AEw.

DST, what has your experience been with b-nol and a combo of b-nol and a-nol?

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SRH



Hope this helps

Btw, 3 a-nol:2 b-nol seems to work better than 2 a-nol:1 b-nol.

At 2:1 you get more of the \"neurotic\" reaction than w/ 3:2 or at least that\'s been my experience so far. I

haven\'t had as much time to test the 3:2 ratio (just over a month or so) as the 2:1 ratio, so I don\'t know

that I\'m prepared to draw a final conclusion just yet. However, so far I prefer 3:2 vs. 2:1 and 1:1 still seems

the best.

[Sexyredhead]

It\'s great to have you back! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Thanks, Sag. I was

thinking that was part of the -rone combo too. Good to know. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]



So how many drops are you wearing? A drop of a-nol and a drop of b-nol, or do you just mix the two and dab a few

times?

[Sagacious1420]

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I premix my pheros and dilute by 1/2

w/ cologne. I keep my mix in an L-S atomizer and use 1-3 sprays depending on the situation. I often carry a small

amount of my mix in a one dram cologne sample vial in case I feel that I need a minor dosage adjustment.

Were

you thinking of premixing some b-nol w/ your AEw? I suppose you could determine the amount of a-nol in your usual

AEw dosage and then how many dabs of b-nol would match the a-nol from your AEw for a 1:1 ratio.

[Sexyredhead]

Actually, I was thinking of mixing a little vial of 1:1 a-nol/b-nol, and then dabbing it on in addition

to the AEw that I generally mix with body oil these days. I don\'t smell the AEw as strongly with the body oil,

but I feel like I get more general coverage that way.

[Sagacious1420]

Sounds good.

If you need a hand w/ your body oil application just let me know.

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[Sexyredhead]

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Sounds good.

If you need a hand w/

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[Tiger4]

Has anyone

tried a-nol with b-nol? And what amounts of b-nol are you finding most effective?

This is a belated

reply, but I've discovered that a-nol with b-nol is a good combination. In my log book, I wrote that I used 4 drops

of b-nol and 4 drops of a-nol on a certain date and remember some interesting experiences. I forgot that I was

wearing pheromones that day because I was under a lot of stress. I remember at least three experiences with women

that seemed a little unusual. I seemed to put one woman (33) in some sort of a daze. When I was talking to her, she

looked like I had her under some sort of spell. Her body really relaxed and went limp and she started breathing

through her mouth. I'll never forget how her eyes looked. There was this other woman (late or mid twenties) where I

could tell that she was getting turned on sexually. Her eyes started to show intense interest in me and her face

relaxed with the charactistic flat appearance and her breasts looked like they were about to pop out of her shirt,

because they got much larger. Another younger woman (early twenties) looked at me in awe with her eyes showing

interest and breathing through her mouth. If I were a betting man, I'd say her respiration was increasing. That's

what usually happens where they start breathing though their mouth isn't it?

The Beta-nol/Alpha-nol combination

is underated. Not only this combo, but there are several more seemingly mudane products and combos that are just as

potent.

[Tiger4]

I mixed 3 or 4ml of Rochas cologne with 1ml of Beta-nol and have noticed an unusual residue in the atomizer. When

I shake it up, it gets very cloudy. I've made similar mixtures with NPA and there is no residue nor any

cloudiness. Can anyone explain to me why this is the case?

[Visionary7903]

The

Beta-nol/Alpha-nol combination is underated. Not only this combo, but there are several more seemingly mudane

products and combos that are just as potent.

Hey Tiger4

Yea I agree.

Do you find Alpha-Nol from

the Chem-Set to give different results to SOE?

What are some other combinations that work well with Beta-Nol for

you (give ratios and application amounts please)?

Also, have you experimented with any other 'comfort' mones

such as Androstadienol?

Visionary

[Tiger4]

Hey Tiger4



Yea I agree.

Do you find Alpha-Nol from the Chem-Set to give different results to SOE?

What are some

other combinations that work well with Beta-Nol for you (give ratios and application amounts please)?

Also, have

you experimented with any other 'comfort' mones such as Androstadienol?

Visionary

I don't have

the chem set Alpha-nol but the musk with androstenol that came with the beta-nol. The nol in SOE works fine. I'm

sure there are several combinations that work with beta-nol, but I haven't been in good situations to try them.



Androstadienol works fine alone or with either nol. I've experimented with it and will continue to experiment

with it.