maybe try taking some

tribistan from sopharma as well - not just any tribulus product since only the sopharma one is any good.

"Charlatans selling pheromone

perfumes as attraction potions and the like discredited it"

I heartily agree - commercial interests are stifling

research (trade secrets) and discrediting the...

http://www.pt141.com/pt141-bremelanotide.pdf

To be honest I can't

remember but the abstract mentioned 44 substances 13 of which were sex specific. The reason I ask is because I

still find natural apocrine secretions gain more response...

Hmn - The VNO debate would

seem contentious, but, I can vouch in my own amateur way that -dienone does seem to have an effect on the female

psyche.

Bronzie, from your comments

and those of other members I see that this board is still in the state it descended to many years ago when I to

ceased to log in, and in fact stopped any use/...

hmn - but didn't the

'research' by berliner, monti-bloch, etc already state that adrostenone did not stimulate the VNO? They stated

-dienone was the putative human pheromone. Therefore this...

Interesting - read most of

this before. The VNO rears its head again (contentious subject!! ;~} ). The androstenone fixation worries me, maybe

healthy males would wash more and therefore...

JVK - I do not doubt you

credentials one iota. I have read with interest some of your publications along with many others by scientists who

claim equal kudos. The science is hard and lacks...

Does not the definition of a

pheromone relate to a physiological response ? Is this not supposed to be chemical messaging ? How can a

physiological response be learned ? A true pheromone...

Anyway - that digresses from

the topic but does suggest trying to be alpha male will get you laid more - all the girlies love a baddie!?

I

agree that evidence for a functional VNO is...

There is a theory that women

form pair bonds for a long term relationship with a homely nestmaking male whilst seeking to procreate outside that

pair-bond with an alpha type male in order to...

well ... sceptic .. maybe.

I feel the point is missed. As a sceptic I could ask are these products value for money? As a scientist I could

ask do these products have a discernable,...

I have nothing against this

site - it's better than the others in the respect that Bruce supplies the products he claims and seems to have

genuine interest. I find a lot of what goes on on...

hmn.......

But the science

and the marketing don't "fit". The marketing suggests that dripping these products upon oneself will attract women

like moths to a flame. The science fails to...

Some may remember me......



Try the A1 on a PMT riddled subject .... you will be amazed!!

see original Erox research for confirmation of

'dienone effects...

Do

they work ? Will they get U laid ? Are they smoke and mirrors ? I have over the years tried many products - some

smell good - some smell like yak dung ! Do they work ? Hmn.....

Not like...