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    Lovelock: 'We can't save the planet' ...

    Lovelock: 'We can't save the planet'





    Professor...
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    Indeed Bel, and further, more important...

    Indeed Bel, and further, more

    important vindication will be had when certain individuals are voted out of office, both in the UK and here. The UN

    and EU are just sad stories.

    The EU...
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    The science of AGW I think is definitely...

    The science of AGW I think is

    definitely unraveling, but not the politics. Like you said Bel, its too entwined with ideology, and that on a

    global scale.

    It'll continue to be pushed, much...
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    :rofl: I found the "Be sustainable......

    :rofl:


    I found the "Be

    sustainable... don't buy sex" comment curious. What if you can only have sustainable sex with a hooker and a

    hockey stick??

    Blows like Hurricane to Climatic...
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    Here's your conspiracy: these AGW guys are...

    Here's your conspiracy: these

    AGW guys are just in it for the free sex. :)

    Prostitutes offer free climate summit sex

    Copenhagen

    Council and Lord Mayor Ritt Bjerregaard have sent...
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    Chris Horner, a senior fellow at the...

    Chris Horner, a senior fellow

    at the Competitive Enterprise Institute, said NASA has refused for two years to provide information under the

    Freedom of Information Act that would show how the...
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    http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/143573 ...

    http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/143573

    THE scientific consensus that mankind has caused

    climate change was rocked yesterday as a leading academic called it a “load of hot air...
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    IMO its pure guesstomology to try to prove...

    IMO its pure guesstomology to

    try to prove that humans have caused one iota of difference in the world's climate. Like you say Rbt, temp

    fluctuations have been far more severe than we're...
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    And here's some not too surprising news... ...

    And here's some not too

    surprising news... the Chairman of the IPCC and the Obama administration are now on record as saying the hacked

    information has no effect on the "consensus" that AGW...
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    SCIENTISTS at the University of East Anglia...

    SCIENTISTS at the University

    of East Anglia (UEA) have admitted throwing away much of the raw temperature data on which their predictions of

    global warming are based.
    It means that...
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    I read today that they've thrown out all the...

    I read today that they've

    thrown out all the raw data.

    Read also that some of the massaged data is going to be released, but not for

    months, after releases get signed off etc.

    Five'll...
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    Hey Belgareth, you turn up anything...

    Hey Belgareth, you turn up

    anything interesting in your reading? I've read what's been printed in the few media stories I've found, and in

    typical fashion the MSM is burying the story on...
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    The AGW question has less to do with science...

    The AGW question has less to do

    with science than it does money, ideology and politics. There has been a growing trend of scientists defecting from

    the alleged "consensus" for quite some...
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    Telegraph.co.uk Article here...

    Telegraph.co.uk

    Article here

    In

    a startling new book, Christopher Booker reveals how a handful of scientists, who have pushed flawed theories on

    global warming for decades, now...
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    Click here for the complete Henry Payne's ...

    Click here for the complete Henry Payne's

    Sketchbook
    Posted by Henry Payne (The Detroit News) on Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 12:17 AM

    Sen. Debbie Stabenow, Energy Leader (National Review,...
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    :wave: But I wouldn't say hoax, just a...

    :wave:

    But I wouldn't say

    hoax, just a still as yet unproven theory, which requires quite an intellectual stretch to embrace.

    And I would say your 40% is a low number, esp if respondents...
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    Former Vice President Al Gore declared that...

    Former Vice President Al

    Gore declared that the Congressional climate bill will help bring about “global governance.”

    "A

    climate change response must have at its heart a redistribution of...
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    With the "Global Warming" bill passing the...

    With the "Global Warming" bill

    passing the House in Congress, and Obama ready to pounce on another chunk of authoritarian control, bumping this

    thread is timely.


    ...
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    Useful Debate Strategy for Climate Change and...

    Useful Debate Strategy for

    Climate Change and Economics
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    This is how they will back out of their ...

    This is how they will back out of their

    former erroneous positions.

    "See, we were right, and now there is a backlash, and a new and different danger

    confronts us."
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    You've been doing your homework Bel. A+ and...

    You've been doing your homework

    Bel. A+ and a gold star.

    I wonder at what point the media and certain politicians will get a clue? There's a

    lot on the record with some of these folks...
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    Probably, but I think too its so rampantly...

    Probably, but I think too its so

    rampantly political, and politics has a way of suspending reason.

    BTW, I was going to PM you, but could not find

    a way.
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    Thanks belgareth, I for one am weary of the...

    Thanks belgareth, I for one am

    weary of the Michael Moore style of "documentary".
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    Global Warming

    youtube states that this video

    is no longer available due to a copyright claim by "Wag TV". A search yielded no hits for Wag TV, anyone know where

    to find this video? I'd really like to see...
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