Will love scent be selling
Edge Trust soon?
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Will love scent be selling
Edge Trust soon?
This stuff sure looks
good.
New! Pheromone and Oxytocin spray
for men and women
The spray contains a specially designed formula that can be applied directly to
the skin or clothes.
Each bottle has a unique
combination of 3.0mg of Pheromones and 2mg Oxytocin.
What is Oxytocin?
A new popular chemical that is found to increase peoples level of trust in each
others, facilitate social bonding and well as a potential cure for shyness, depression and other social
phobias.
There is a guaranteed amount of pure,
analytical grade of Pheromones and Oxytocin per bottle.
Lacroy Chemicals supplies The Edge TRUST spray in a separate, specially
designed formula, for men and women.
30ml Pheromone mix
in a unique Glass Bottle with atomizer, packed in its own box.
whoa, this Edge Trust
looks really interesting. wonder how it'll compare to liquid trust--
At least the bottle it comes in
looks pretty...
Looks like there are some new
products coming out this weeks and this what i read here is great news !
New things to play with for me ... YEAH
Pago
Any updates on this product
yet?
Forgot to ask this question.
From what I've read Oxytocin only last a couple of hours max. Would it be wise to add a spray or two of the
EdgeTrust say 4 or 5 hours later due to the none content? Any suggestions?
Tammy says Edge Trust will
be LS site this week. awesome~:cheers:
Does anybody know how much the
Edge Trust will cost?
Edge Trust is being added to the
L-S Store even now.
Also, look for the new Pheromax/m with Oxytocin. These should be some interesting products
to play with. :)
If it works it may be worth the
price.Hopefully there will be a discount code in the next newsletter.
Oh i agree with you in the case that the Oxytocin may
endure for over an hour it can be of great benefit when used with skill, especially in business and interview
situations, however i certainly would not be wanting to have to repeat spray with Androstenone every couple of hours
so as to keep up the trust factor, as it is Androstenone only has a very limited if not any effectiveness when used
on targets that are taking the birth control pill.
The discount codes certainly come in handy therefore it is
good to practice restraint and wait for one as they come more frequently whenever sales are slow and the economy is
in slump.
Androstenone only has a very
limited if not any effectiveness when used on targets that are taking the birth control pill.
I never knew
that about none and birth control pills
A cure
for depression, social phobias? Wow that sounds amazing since I have bipolar disorder.....which includes stages of
depression.... this could be the holy grail..
But edge/NPA etc have always been products people OD on...
what have they done differently this time to make sure that doesn't happen? Clearly by now they know half of the
mone population OD's on their products!
Also is this still basically a ONS product? Or are they going a
completely different marketing route here? I hope they stick to their main area which is products for senseless
f*cking :rofl:
:cheers:
HM
It is something i have noticed to some degree as well as the
opinion of others, eg i have worn Androstenone when visiting women who are on birth control and where the Pheromone
is having little attraction effects upon them i notice that it has a very real and sometimes strong attraction
effect upon their daughters who are not taking birth control.
Also here are a few Androstenone opinions to kick
around.
Birth control prevents ovulation by tricking the body into believing the female is already
pregnant.
Since the body already thinks its in a state of pregnancy and Androstenone sends a mating type
signal perhaps this is why they do not respond.
Androstenone is not produced by the human body, excreted by
the human body, or
used as a neuro-steroid by the human brain.
Androstenone serves as a mating
pheromone in pigs and elephants and related
mammals, where it is produced in the gonads of those animals
and excreted during
mating season. Androstenone is of enormous concern to the hog industry because
production of even the tiniest amount of Androstenone (known as boar taint) in the
maturing male pig makes
the meat unfit for human consumption. They do use
Androstenone in spray form, however, to induce a sow in
heat to arch her back, which
makes artificial insemination easier. Of course, they spray it in front of the
sow's nose
-- not on themselves!
Androstenone is also a bacterial by-product of the break down of
human pheromones in sweat by skin bacteria over time when the sweat is allowed to sour. This is a main cause of
malodour in old sweat.
Although there have been numerous studies of Androstenone exposure with humans, there
is no research literature that supports the belief that this is a human pheromone, or that supports the claims that
it is a human female sexual attractant. At least one study done in the 1980's showed that Androstenone is a female
repellent! (4)
The available research data strongly suggests that this non-human steroid molecule affects the
trigeminal nerve pathwaysin humans(5) and can be a trigeminal nerve irritant. (6)(7) (The trigeminal nerve evolved
as part of the body's warning system, sensing potentially noxious stimuli.)
There are many anecdotal
reports of OD-type reactions to Androstenone including anxiety, negative emotional reactions, painful muscle spasms,
irritability, anger, and avoidance and rejection from others when exposed to a certain level of the steroid -- in
some cases when exposed to even a small amount of this steroid. These anecdotal reports seem to support the
scientific research emerging in human studies. If you are interested in these anecdotal reports any web search
ofAndrostenone OD (overdose), Androstenone irritability, Androstenone rage, or Androstenone anger will yield many
examples of the same.
Over 70% of women find the odor of Androstenone repulsive except during ovulation.
Ovulating women tend to lose the ability to smell Androstenone, (8) and become less repelled by the substance at
this time.
Many producers of pheromone products who use this steroid make the claim that this is proof that
it is a human female sexual attractant pheromone. However, since the periodic loss of ability to smell a substance
and the periodic loss of repellent activity for a substance does not logically or automatically equate with being
attracted to that substance, and considering the emerging evidence of trigeminal nerve irritation in humans caused
by Androstenone, we do not find this to be a compelling argument, whatsoever, that Androstenone is effective as a
sexual attractant even during ovulation.
We have found no evidence in our beta testing or in the scientific
literature research to suggest that any human-derivedpheromone causes irritability, anger, rage, painful muscle
spasm, avoidance and rejection by others, or any of the other negative effects repeatedly associated with
Androstenone use.
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Wirkung und Rolle von synthetischen Kopulinen bei der versteckten Ovulation des Menschen. Dipl.-Arb. an der Formal-
und Naturwissenschaftlichen Fakultät der Universität Wien.)
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6(4), 1985, 227-236.
5. On the trigeminal percept of androstenone and its implications on the rate of
specific anosmia. Boyle JA, Lundström JN, Knecht M, Jones-Gotman M, Schaal B, Hummel T. Montreal Neurological
Institute, McGill University, Montreal, Canada. J Neurobiol. 2006 Nov; 66(13):1501-10.
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Halpern. Chemosensory Perception Volume 2, Number 1 / March, 2009 p.1936-5802.
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p.908-917
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and Noam Sobel. Chem. Senses, 2003, 28:p.423-432
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10. Synthesis of the Equine Estrogen Metabolites 2-Hydroxyequilin and
2-Hydroxyequilenin, Fagen Zhang and Judy L. Bolton, Department of Medicinal Chemistry and Pharmacognosy (M/C 781),
College of Pharmacy, University of Illinois at Chicago, 833 South Wood Street, Chicago, Illinois 60612-7231Chem.
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2003,
Terry, can you give us a link to
that source? Thanks buddy. :)
Just wondering since
Edge Trust contain oxy and I assume this fasciliates social bonding etc will this product be suitable for bars or
clubs? I always thought mega doses of NPA were needed here. ALso in bars there's not as much talking do to the
loud music.
I'm wondering WHERE this product is intended to be used :)
Any guesses? \o/
HM
Thanks Terry
@Terry thinking I may just
order Liquid Trust by itself then add The Edge or Alpha 7 just to see how it goes. I'm thinking either Alpha 7 or
The Edge plus SOE and Liquid trust would be a killer combo. It's been a long time since I've tried Liquid Trust,
I've never tried Liquid Trust with Alpha 7. So what do you think?
Whatever is a good workable combined mix for you is just fine
to apply as you would normally do so.
I like Alpha 7 because it has the benefit of having around 4-5 mcg of
AndrosteRone per drop and 20 mcg Androstenone thus it is an excellent wear alone formulation as well as great value
for money as the use of one drop lasts and lasts, also choosing the addition of Scent of Eros makes it into a great
stealth attraction bomb.
Now when it comes to the LT i would apply it alone at 4 sprays across the shirt
front at chest level, this application can give a good hour of benefits and then it tapers off fairly rapidly, that
is why i choose to spray it immediately before my proposed time of target interception, but there is no problem with
refreshing if you need continued target interaction time.
I would use the LT alone for awhile just to guage its
results.
However when you become familiar with the characteristics of your LT applications then by all means
use it as a conjunct ie alongside your normal pheromone applications.
In other words i recon LT + A7 + SOE
could well be a fantastic attraction combo of atomic proportion....\o/
Thanks for the info Terry I've
used LT a couple of years ago had some good reactions. As I mentioned I've never tried it with A7. I think A7 SOE
and LT with Angel/m would be the atomic bomb lol. Can't remember does LT have to be stored in a cool place like the
refrigerator or not. Thanks
I did store my 30 ml bottle in the refrigerator and the
effects were good 18 months later still, so i would store it under refrigeration as it certainly cant hurt it and
may actually contribute to its longevity.
Angel is good, i knew this girl workin close to me and we never ever
spoke and she sorta always walked past me often but on the morning i wore A Man Angel she passed me and turned back
and started some really friendly talk, i also had pheromones on which was normal for me anyway as i apply something
or other nearly every day.
It doesant really matter as i will wear Angel just because i like it.
still don't see Edge
Trust in the store yet, anybody else see it?
I couldn't help but reflect on an
important conclusion most of us have come to regarding pheromones. I.e. They enhance was you put out, i.e. don't
create attraction if you do nothing, and you still have to do your part if you want to get laid in the
end.
But what if you're antisocial. What if you're naturally shy and the type of guy who does not
socialize, let alone talk to women and get their #.
Does this magical edge trust, seem to offer a cure for
this problem?
If this is the case as they so boldly say , a cure for social phobia, it may be that
pheromones may indeed do most of the work, leaving the alleviation of social phobias and getting laid up to
science......
Does any of this seem realistic, or do you think it's more marketing hype? Lacroy has
always put out first class products.
HM
I think there is a difference in
being "antisocial" and what might be termed "asocial."
Antisocial to me would mean a concious effort on one's
part to avoid social contact, at least positive social contact.
Being ascocial could mean you just don'e as yet
have the skill set(s) to be either social or antisocial.
In either case it would be my opinion that your social
behavior is still pretty much totally under your control, or at least not something that can really be created or
overcome with pheromones.
The one possible pheromone I can think of that may help would be something like alpha
androstenol. It does seem to "loosen" people up socially and be a conversation catylist. In fact a few times I have
experimented with an heavy alpha-nol product I wished some of those around me would shut up they gabbed on so much.
This could serve as a social "icebreaker," especially if you get some self-effects (I don't seem to get
self-effects from any pheromone however) and get you gabbing as well.
Most social inteaction skills are going to
come from experience. Something you have to practice and learn.
My opinions.
Its pretty much agreed among experienced users that synthetic
pheromones can not and will not overcome asocial behaviors. You can't pick your nose in a bar and expect NPA to
draw a 10 onto your lap to give you a hand, but she might give you the finger if you ask her to dance. :)
What
pheromones WILL do is give you an edge, an entre, a stimulus, a social boost that will jump start your "game", if
that's what you're looking for.
In other circumstances they can, in the hands of a skilled user, lubricate a
situation and skew it in a certain direction and create a friendlier or more respectful, or trusting, or comfortable
vibe, depending on the product.
Its incumbent upon the user to study their "target" as well as themselves, and
tailor their pheromone use accordingly. Pheromones do not sidestep the complex dynamics of human behavior, they
must be used in conjunction with them.
My dos centavos amigos. :)
Agreed. It is true in my opinion as well that pheromones as just a tool to reel
women in (bring the into your vicinity etc). If however, once the woman has come and realized you are what her
senses were guiding her to, you turn out to be "out of character" she will sense your wierd, strange, or not in sync
of what she expected and turn away.
I find that certain pheromones can surely help steer women in a direction
you choose (the social mones). other mones type also reels in different types of women or even amongst the same
type eg those that are ovulating or not etc (EG NPA).
I guess if you look at most Actors in Hollywood they
take roles in sync with their personality. That way they can play out the role with ease come filming time. Mones
are no different. Beginners or even those who aren't the best actors should choose mones in sync with their
natural personality so they can operate smoothly , in character with this new signature.
The exception is the
equivalent of a Depp in Hollywood who can take on 50 movies with roles all extremely different and still pull off
realism to the crowds. Experience like this is what separates the good from the masters. Its no different with
mones.
I myself am no actor. I find if I try to play out extremely polar roles all the time I get more
nervous and anxious and the mones work against me. I''ve found A7/SOE and Chikara to be amonst the best mone
products I have been using. Both enable one to work with a WIDE range of targets, and help me communicate with
everyone.
Chikara for the 20-30 something crowd (I'm 40) with a sexual social overtone, and A7/SOE when I
want to play a gentlemanly sexual alpha .
In either case they go very well with me as testomony in my
Hornyman Log posts.
I plan on using mones to primarily reel in the targets (Chikara = a lot of hot babes) ,
A7/SOE (initiate with just about everyone while playing a leader,) and then using my voice to "adapt to different
targets and venues". I find my voice is naturally easier to work with than acting skills (which i suck at).
Clothing is also easy for me to come by. Its easy to dress with a wide range too so I don't have to focus on
exactly specific clothes for extremely different situations.
I have found a good old visit to a MEXX outlet
in Toronto covers 80% of my clothing choice from jeans and vintage tshirts to more formal but sexier clothes (dress
pants, shirts , blazers etc). There is no need for me to go into speciality stores for shopping (just like with
mones) as Mexx provides me with a wide range of opportunity within my natural tastes in styles for attracting 20+
crowd)
Once these basic tenets are in place it is up to me to initiate and LEAD the target which is reeled in
to me.
Just my thoughts and opinions...
:cheers:
HM
ah Edge Trust is on the
site now, niice.