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SMOKING vs pheromones Reports
Hello!
I have been reading the things concerning smoking and pheromones in this forum.
my question is: Is
there any smoking pheromone users that are \"succesful\".
I smoke cigarettes and I have been testing my NPA/m,
PPA and SOE gel. I have had not any success. not in the bad and not in the good sense. today I tried the following:
I went to stores and I was looking for the reactions. I was wearing all I had (4 dabs-drops NPA/m, 4 big dabs PPA
and 1/2 SOE gel packet. I dabbed these on my jacket and the dabs or maybe even drops were quite big I think). I did
not get any reactions. Really, no bad, no good ones.
I am positive that this is NOT caused by my smoking. I just
think I have to try other products and see if they are working on me. I am 22male non to semi-alpha.
Any
suggestions other than \'quit smoking\'? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Phinmone
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Many
people are not interested in those that smoke. Especially if the smoke gets in the clothes which happens often.
Besides that smoking can hinder the detection of pleasant colognes & fragrance. These scents for the most part
are needed to get the attention to mones. The stench of smoke would seem to hinder mone effectiveness alot IMO.
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Ok,
so you are saying that smoking only affects the outer things on me. Like if I smell like the smoke of cigarettes,
girls / women \"do not like me\" (remember that there are girls that smoke too, and clubs and bars are filled with
smoke). But the smoking itself does not affect the pheromone production?
So I just have to try other products
provided by love-scent? I have been thinking of bying RM, AE and APC.
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It has
nothing to do with liking you. It\'s that many women are not looking to get to know guys that smoke. Often it\'s
one of the initial questions I\'m asked by someone interested in getting to know me. In bars there are alot of
people that don\'t care about smoking. Many are casual smokers too and claim to only do it when out &
drinking. Alot are turned off by the smell around them and smoker\'s breath. The stench can be a bug turnoff. I
would think it would deter the detection of mones too. If two women are similarly attractive, one smokes and the
other you can sense awesome perfume on, who\'s gonna be more deisrable? That\'s certainly an easy question for
me to answer!
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Guys
that smoke turn me off
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and
yes...it can hinder your mone effects
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GIVE
UP!
I dont want to hear it, if my mom can do it after years and years and years of smoking then anyone
can...
ARRR she loves her cat you see, poor cat \'FiFi\' has asthma
god bless
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Is there any smoking pheromone users that are
\"succesful\".
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> yep
[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] smoking makes no difference of the effectiveness of the pheros.
But certain types of environment like clubs etc will often require a larger dose, but that´s irrelevant whether
you´re a smoker or not.
CJ
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Ok, so you are saying that smoking only affects
the outer things on me
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No.... smoking DOES alter your body
chemistry, immune system, and dulls your sense of taste and smell. I don\'t know exactly how it would effect your
natural or synthetic mones, but I do believe that it would effect them in some way.
And even if you\'re not
aware of it, you DO have that stank that permeates your clothes, skin and hair which probably effects the mones as
well.
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Ya
know, I\'m not a smoker, but perhaps y\'all are coming down a little hard on our smoky friends. Smokers get laid
all the time, and often appear sexy to many folks. Smokers in a smoky bar smell about the same as non-smokers.
Didn\'t hurt Bogart any (\'cept for dying of lung cancer, of course
[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]).
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I
can\'t help it. I have a fetish for big D\'s and pink lungs. I find them sexy.
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I can\'t help it. I have a fetish for big D\'s
and pink lungs. I find them sexy. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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common admit it...you love to kiss them ashtray gobs dont ya
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the
big D\'s are propably every woman\'s dream??
I would agree to DST\'s very good point actually. I read a few
comments like: Women do not like smokers. I would have to lean on DST\'s opinion. That is a general opinion too.
Sure, there are dumber of women who do not like the smoke in the clubs and bars, but often they are not there just
for this reason.
@Elana: You propably go to the bars and clubs as well and there is no possibility that you
wouldn\'t come into contact with the smoke. And what comes to men, I think many smoke only in the clubs to show
the cool picture of themselfes or something.
yeah: phinmone - don\'t the let smoke disturb you!
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Yes
those that smoke can have luck in bars. But they would have more if they didn\'t since many don\'t care for
smoky breath and would not go out with a smoker. Contrary to your last post smoking doesn\'t make sopmeone cool.
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@Elana: You propably go to the bars and clubs as
well and there is no possibility that you wouldn\'t come into contact with the smoke.
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In Miami? You are so wrong about that.
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I think many smoke only in the clubs to show the
cool picture of themselfes or something.
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> In S. Florida it is NOT
considered cool. It is considered a nasty habit.
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I think many smoke only in the clubs to show the cool picture of themselfes
or something.
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> It is considered a nasty habit.
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It is a nasty habit
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Both my girlfriend and I smoke. We have missed numerous opportunities for sexual encounters with other couples
because of it. I just finally switched to a much milder brand a few weeks ago and hope to kick the habit soon. I
did quit once and, surprisingly, good smells didn\'t get any better for me but bad smells were amplified
considerably - I hope to avoid this by a gradual withdrawal versus cold-turkey which is how I did it the first time
(it was not a pleasant experience but I did do it). I started back up after a really horrible argument I had with
my then teenage daughter - it was so bad that I wanted to hit her but managed to control myself.... but then I
couldn\'t calm down at all and had that fateful smoke which did calm me down. I do need to quit and I know my
life will be much better for it. So, folks, if you do smoke, just smoke and don\'t try to justify it - there\'s
nothing at all \"cool\" or good about it.
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I\'ve had great hits while smoking cigars, gross or not, as long as they don\'t expell me from the premises. I
don\'t give a [censored] if I stink. Of course I now smoke only the finest, Punch Royal Coronation darks, which
have a lovely boquet (for a cheap cigar, anyway). [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] I bet there are
those in Miami that enjoy a good Cuban cigar from time to time.
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Both my girlfriend and I smoke. We have missed
numerous opportunities for sexual encounters with other couples because of it. I just finally switched to a much
milder brand a few weeks ago and hope to kick the habit soon. I did quit once and, surprisingly, good smells
didn\'t get any better for me but bad smells were amplified considerably - I hope to avoid this by a gradual
withdrawal versus cold-turkey which is how I did it the first time (it was not a pleasant experience but I did do
it). I started back up after a really horrible argument I had with my then teenage daughter - it was so bad that I
wanted to hit her but managed to control myself.... but then I couldn\'t calm down at all and had that fateful
smoke which did calm me down. I do need to quit and I know my life will be much better for it. So, folks, if you do
smoke, just smoke and don\'t try to justify it - there\'s nothing at all \"cool\" or good about it.
<hr
/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">Good luck, Kookling [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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I bet there are those in Miami that enjoy a good
Cuban cigar from time to time.
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Then they had better find a
good cigar club to do it, because they can\'t do it in most bars.
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class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Both my girlfriend and I smoke. We have missed numerous opportunities for
sexual encounters with other couples because of it. I just finally switched to a much milder brand a few weeks ago
and hope to kick the habit soon. I did quit once and, surprisingly, good smells didn\'t get any better for me but
bad smells were amplified considerably - I hope to avoid this by a gradual withdrawal versus cold-turkey which is
how I did it the first time (it was not a pleasant experience but I did do it). I started back up after a really
horrible argument I had with my then teenage daughter - it was so bad that I wanted to hit her but managed to
control myself.... but then I couldn\'t calm down at all and had that fateful smoke which did calm me down. I
do need to quit and I know my life will be much better for it. So, folks, if you do smoke, just smoke and don\'t
try to justify it - there\'s nothing at all \"cool\" or good about it.
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class=\"post\">Good luck, Kookling [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Kookling.. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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phinmone,
I would probably look a LOT cooler than I do if I were sitting in the Ferrari that I could have
bought if I had saved all the money that I\'ve wasted on cigarettes over the years.
For the young people, and
those who have never tried smoking, DON\'T EVEN TRY IT!! It\'s a seriously addictive habit! I myself speak from
the experience of 35 years of psychological and financial ENSLAVEMENT, and I can look just as cool, if not COOLER
when I DON\'T have a cigarette hanging out of my mouth.
For those adults who DO smoke, TRY to quit, or at
least cut back on the number or the strength of the cigarettes you smoke. If nothing else, this may help you to
survive a bit longer to allow you to enjoy more years of smoking pleasure!
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As noted above, being a smoker WILL automatically disqualify
you as a potential partner for a great many women who do not smoke and find the habit and its side effects
abhorrent. But there are also a great many women who DO smoke, as well as a number who WON\'T exclude you from
consideration as a partner simply because you smoke even though they do not.
I\'ve used pheromones for several
years and have been a regular smoker for the entire time. I\'ve never noticed my smoking habit interfering with my
phero use. Granted, I may need to apply a bit more of a phero dose than does a non-smoker, but I doubt that I need
to apply MUCH more. The non-smoking phero user who operates in the same venues as I would have to compensate for the
smoke in the air there nearly as much as I would.
The scent of tobacco smoke about you becomes part of your
personal scent signature that you present to the world, whether you (or they) like it or not.
It should be noted
that a great number of commercial colognes from many of the \"better\" fragrance houses utilize tobacco notes in
their scents. Some of the men\'s fragrances that do can be found
HERE on
basenotes.net.
So how bad ARE you screwing up your personal scent by adding a note that even the House of
Creed includes in their fragrance line? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
Yes, you DO take
yourself out of the running for a long-term relationship with a segment of the female population by being a smoker,
but there are plenty of women to whom this is NOT an issue.
In a smoky club environment with a carefully
calculated dose of pheros AND the disinhibitory effects of alcohol working in your favor, your being a smoker is
less likely to be a detriment in the pursuit of a \"short-term\" relationship than it would be should you be
seeking a long-term relationship with a female who is a non-smoker. And there\'s few things in life finer than the
cigarette you enjoy lying in bed after a particularly satisfying one night stand.
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\"A cigarette is the perfect type of pleasure. It is exquisite, and it leaves one unsatisfied. What more could
one want?\"
--Oscar Wilde
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I do feel obligated to restate that if
you are a young person who doesn\'t smoke, smoking will NOT make you look cooler, or older, or smarter. You\'ll
just look like a stupid young kid who\'s TRYING to look cool.
Straight from the heart of a stupid old man,
Oscar [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
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Kookling..
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I would go back
and edit it, but it is just too cute. He is now officially Kookling to me.
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The
scent of tobacco leafs that are used in perfume are nothing close to the smell of a lit cigarette
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The scent of tobacco leafs that are used in perfume
are nothing close to the smell of a lit cigarette
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its akin to
saying tea smells of sh!t
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The scent of tobacco leafs that are used in perfume
are nothing close to the smell of a lit cigarette
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Elana,
I
couldn\'t agree more. Not even Creed\'s \"Tabarome\" can do for me what a Pall Mall non-filter can, up to and
including KILLING me!
Oscar [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
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The scent of tobacco leafs that are used in perfume are nothing close to the
smell of a lit cigarette
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Elana,
I couldn\'t agree more. Not
even Creed\'s \"Tabarome\" can do for me what a Pall Mall non-filter can, up to and including KILLING
me!
Oscar [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
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I am going to set up an appointment for you to meet with Tallmacky. We will get to the bottom
of this smoking issue you have. My guess it is related to an issue that you are trying to cover up. We will work on
uncovering that issue.
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\".......I was wearing all I had (4 dabs-drops
NPA/m, 4 big dabs PPA and 1/2 SOE gel packet. I dabbed these on my jacket and the dabs or maybe even drops were
quite big I think). I did not get any reactions. Really, no bad, no good ones. ......\"
Phinmone
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phinmone,
Leaving the topic of tobacco use aside for the moment, I
think that you\'re over-doing it with the pheros. Just because you don\'t SEE obvious negative reactions
doesn\'t mean they aren\'t there.
You could smell as good as a dewy morning on the banks of the Tigris in a
patch of wild Jasmine, or as bad as a pile of festering moosesh!t in the mid-day sun, and THAT level of pheromone
application is likely to make people want to ignore you either way. Where they CAN escape they will do so, and where
they cannot they will hope that YOU go away, but they\'re quite unlikely to actually exibit signs of their
distaste. When YOU smell someone with an objectionable scent (excluding friends), do YOU tell them how bad they
smell?
That\'s a LOT of stuff!!
First cut it in half, then try backing it down a notch or two.
One drop of
NPA is a full phero dose for me. (YMMV)
While I\'ll assume that you don\'t ALWAYS apply that heavily,
that
application is pretty much off the charts! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
Oscar
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Phinmone, I\'m not going to moralize to you about smoking. For cryin out loud, you are a grown man who can make
his own choices.However for what its worth, I don\'t smoke rettes. And I have pretty much stopped seeing chicks
that do. Other than the obvious reasons, the main reason is that to me, their juice doesn\'t taste as good. It
seems to be off kilter. And I\'m not talking hygiene, either. This is important to me since I eat at the Y rather
frequently. Jst 2 cents worth.