semi newbie's experiences
[I]Hi I'd like to introduce myself I
just turned 24 in august dark hair
dark eyes rugged face sometimes
look
mad but am not,
with long hair till
ear lobes. medium complexion like a greek
or mediteranian
wheatish guy or Irani guy
obviously.
5'4 170 lbs average shape from Iran
originally but I grew up in
MAryland Usa.
My mones :
chikara( really good with target crowd )
apc ( only mone product that works
for me without
od)
te (two dabs work just like 7 dabs apc)
npa( always od even with one dab but old
women
love it and guys act like sillly lil girls with me and alpha
males supposedly treat me like one of
them)
wagg( people treat me like a sweet old lady,
guys wanna hang out with me, more than 4 drops
and
people act like they are smarter than me
and really condescending and smart alleky with me)
perception gel
packs: tried 1/4 pack once too much none I guess. works though just dont know right dose.
(dihl from older women
and men)
(target sexy audience 18to25 get edgy and avoidance)
best mix to date( 2 dabs te + 1 spray
chikara gold cap+ 12 inches soe
I make a goatee with the soe unscented roll on)
all covered with versace blue
jeans or chrome
really doesnt matter which cologne.as long as its not too overwhelming.
with this mix I have
been getting smiley women talking alot alot alot with attraction, and they initiate playful kino like jokingly punch
my elbow and touching my hands) very very consistent. with All ages 18 to 50 I love it.
no dihls which is good
right?
Apc: just with 5 dabs women notice me and get dihls also.
Sexiest mix to date: two dabs te, 3
drops ae has got to be the
most sexual mix for me but for ages 30 and up :( not my target audience also I .
Blatantly touching my head and grabbing my arm and telling me I'm handsome but remember all older ladies. I think
If I fine tuned it it should work for the target audience 18to 25 youger girls. Very strange but when I wore this at
a gym I was hoping for this cute younger 25 yr old girl to react somehow automatically, after a while dissapointed
I went to the water cooler and when I turned around
there she was, looking all nervous and no eye contact at
all.
maybe she just wanted water I don't know but as I was wishing for her to come to me, she was standing
behing me
very strange.
Have never followed up properly with any hit I ever got. Wanted to find
a good
mix first and also work on my game which is very limited.
I'm sorry for my writing style I know it sucks. I will
write better
negative experience: 2 sprays chikara 2 drops ae.
Guys are friendly and chatty, women are
rude and mean.
I have always noticed that whenever I have high none on I get attention from men and avoidance
from women.
1 or 2 sprays te gets me respect from all kinds of men
even if I bump into a scary mean looking
man he apologizes
affectionately
and gives me way.
I have noticed that women do get attracted but I have
no game so they are left unopened and untouched)
with high none stuff like ae or te or even npa sometimes even
high dose of apc. but with Apc I still get eye contact.
Chikara: by itself 2 sprays makes me super confident
and funny but needs a none kick maybe.
My conclusion so far: mones can do half the work
but I need
game, or else nothings gonna happen.
With game and mones there is no way you can lose at anything whether its
dealing with women or purchasing a house or a car or at a meeting.
Any advice is appreciated for a new guy,
also
if anyone knows whether learning the mystery method is a good idea and where can I find it. I love the pick
up artist on mtv and can relate to the guys on it. I want to be able to talk to women without blanking out. So I
guess it would be a good idea to learn it, I have no problem approaching and saying hi
but don't know how to
carry on and close. Great meeting you all. Forgive me for my writing style. have a happy day.
Oh P.S whenever I
take tribulus even 2 dabs te is od
and when I take dhea i cannot wear extra rone products makes mad. too Rone
really makes me arrogant :( but I
could be wroug mabye its the none. But none usually makes
me super
confident. Thanx bye. remember 24 male, irani, ok looking muscular guy with probably high none and no nol at
all,
was really antisocial before SOE.
Good evening. :angel: :wave: :angel: :lovestruc :type:
Looooooooooooots of info!!
Ok, I got a lot to say here.
First of all, you seem to be putting too much `mones on. Especially `none.
You're
at an age when your body produces lots of natural `none as it is; You don't need much `none as an addition to what
you already got. And what you wrote is consistant with that. You personally seem to have even more `none than
usual.
I advise you to read The
Minimalist Manifesto
7 dabs of `mone-products with `none is usually a lot. Still, the reason APC
works so good for you at that amount, is that APC's got really little `none.
I know. I've been in that situation
myself :)
Now, if you use TE and not too much of it, you'll probably get better results :angel:
It
probably is the `none that gets you arrogant and mad. You see, the `none at small amounts may make you
feel better, stronger, and more self-confident, but at large amounts you get OD, and then you get arrogant and mad.
I'm just assuming - but I think that is the case with you :think:
Your "best mix to date" (2 dabs te + 1 spray
chikara gold cap+ 12 inches soe) seems to be a great mix, and I think it has great cuantities for you. It has only 2
dabs of TE, which is great... it's not too much nor too little. It has SOE which is `nol and at your age, `nol is
what you need most (remember that). I would even add a bit of SOE once or twice to try it out and see if it gets
better or worse. And I myself can do without the chikara but it's also a good product for younger guys like you and
me (I'm 23 years young).
So if I were you, I'll try using that mix for a while and see how it goes. And DO
follow up on your hits! That's the only real way to improve your game ;):POKE:
Quote:
Originally Posted by
crashbandicoot
wagg( people treat me like a sweet old lady,
guys wanna hang out with me, more
than 4 drops
and people act like they are smarter than me
and really condescending and smart alleky with
me)
Great! This shows us that you know which amounts of WAGG are good for you and which are too
much :thumbsup:
WAGG is a product produced to counterattack the OD with `none. You
asked:
Quote:
Originally Posted by
crashbandicoot
anyone know of a cheap product
that can get rid of od
quickly.
Well, there are three answers for that:
1) You can prevent the OD by using less `none
and\or by adding some WAGG to the mix. Try to remember what you've experienced with WAGG to decide how much to add
to the mix ;)
2) You can use a sanitizer. Click this link
to see an example of a hand sanitizer I use myself. You can find many others in the US I think.. The
only reason i use this one is `coz it's the only one I can get in my country :trout:
You distribute it on the
skin, smear it a little, and let it dry for like 3 minutes. That's all you need to do. It usually clears the
OD for me (but with every person it might be a bit different). I do it before I shower sometimes... it get's better
results. But if you use it before the shower, wait 5 minutes between the application of the sanitizer and getting
into the shower; that way it'll dry off and get even better results :D
3) Apparently, there are many users on
the LS forums that find hot water to work just fine for them. Feel free to try that method. If it works for you,
then you got the cheapest method right there I'd say :D
I myself like the second answer best, but it's
only a matter of opinion and what works best for me:type:
Quote:
Originally Posted by
crashbandicoot
No dihls which is good right?
It's perfectly ok if you don't get
DIHLs. However, a DIHL is usually a great thing! :whip:
Think about it...
You're dancing at a party right?
and most of the chicks around are smoking-hot. So you look around, some chicks are ignoring you, some chicks are
looking at you but only for a glance and then they look away, some chicks smile at you and then look away... But
when you look carefully, you suddenly notice this one hot babe who's staring at you with a DIHL. She's looking at
you, like she's a dear in the middle of the road and you're the car that's about to run her over - she's looking
at you with those big round innocent eyes that say "I can't stop staring at you... I don't know why but for some
reason you're attracting my eyes so strongly that I can't look away!"
Get my drift?
A DIHL means you got her
attension in a sub-consious level. She might not even notice she's gazing at you with those big round sweet eyes of
hers - but she is, and she can't stop :thumbsup::cool:
At that point you decide to wink at her with a
bit of a cocky smile that says "I'm a nice guy - but I just cought you staring at me... you're busted, and I think
you're cute"
You think you can make that kind of wink? :D
`coz if you can - the next thing that'll happen is
that chick is gonna be embaressed... and if you approach her in a nice way... she'll also get a bit horny for you.
And from there you can take it anywhere you want to... which means you can try things out and improve your game.
In other words: A DIHL can usually be used as an opening for a play ;)
A DIHL can also be a bad
thing, but it's usually a great thing :angel:
Quote:
Originally Posted by
crashbandicoot
Sexiest mix to date: two dabs
te, 3 drops ae
I suggest - try using it only when you go to clubs. Lot's of people crowded in one place
and many chicks there come horny to begin with hehe:drunk:
Quote:
Originally Posted by
crashbandicoot
Very strange but when
I wore this at a gym I was hoping for this cute younger 25 yr old girl to react somehow automatically, after a while
dissapointed I went to the water cooler and when I turned around
there she was, looking all nervous and no eye
contact at all.
You know what? I'm not sure if this was a hit and she wanted you but was ashamed (or too
busy) to throw an opening line at you; Or if maybe this happened because you ODed, and she didn't want contact.
I'm not sure... it could be either one.
Inconclusive results do come once in a while. It's nothing to get excited
about :)... just remember to feel free and have fun with it :D
Quote:
Originally Posted by
crashbandicoot
negative
experience: 2 sprays chikara 2 drops ae.
Guys are friendly and chatty, women are rude and mean.
It might
just have been a one time thing. Yet it also might be, that women just got confused by the amount of `mones you
added on you, or that you had lots of meat to eat that day or had lots of sport that day (that raises the levels of
testosterne and by doing so also raises your natural `none production... if that happened, you might have ODed...
though it's not too likely that that's what happened).
Quote:
Originally Posted by
crashbandicoot
I have always noticed
that whenever I have high none on I get attention from men and avoidance from women.
Very good:thumbsup:
It's good to notice those things. And indeed it's like that for our age range. And you know what... Men still
give respect at a later age. The only thing that changes is that women also start giving respect to `none. They even
start getting attracted to it at about the age of 25+ (it's a bit different for each woman of course).
Quote:
Originally Posted by
crashbandicoot
Chikara: by itself 2 sprays makes me super confident
and funny but needs a none
kick maybe.
Try adding 1 dab of TE. You might have just found you second best mix :D
Quote:
Originally Posted by
crashbandicoot
Will applying on clothes have the same
effect with soe ? I usually put it
on my
face, seems to work the best, a bit
itchy though but its ok sacrifice for good hits.
Happy girls every
time.
Applying on clothes (with any `mone-product) will work about the same (try applying a bit
less than usual if you apply `none on clothes).
The thing is, it satys on the clothes longer and sometimes fades
into the air slower. Also, try applying on spots where you can't see, `coz some products stain the clothes.
I
suggest you just try changing the application spots.
Try applying in different spots and not just one area of your
body. That way, girls look at your whole body and not just the face ;)
Try applying the `none on the neck,
jaw-line, chest, shoulders, on the front of your pants, or such areas which are considered masculine.
And the `nol
on the neck, wrists, upper chest, or such areas. The wrists is good `coz you can wave it around between you and the
girl (don't wave like a chicken :lol:) and spread the `nol into the air to allow a more chatty enviourment.
The
neck is a GREAT spot to put both `mones and even others like `rone. Why? Because it's mysterious and it makes the
girl want to get closer to you and smell you some more... in a more intimate way. My g\f always says she likes to
smell my neck`coz I got such a wonderfull mixture of flavors there :D
About A1 -
I love A1. But I advise
you not to use it yet. It's somewhat more complicated and you should wait untill you're more experienced with
`mones. It's not a `mone-products, like SOE, TE etc., it's just the `mone itself in an alcohol-based
dilution.
I myself waited about a year before I allowd myself to buy A1, even though I wanted to try it the whole
time. And I'm glad I did.
Besides, A1 is a `mone to use when you're in a relationship more than to attract
women\girls.
Now one more thing. I get your enthusiasm to try out many products, but you should focus on
getting to know each product by itself, then focus on getting to know one specific mix (2 or 3 products is usually
enough for a great mix). You'll get to know all your products eventually.
I myself knew APC before I found
LoveScent. When I found LS I bought 8 different products. I now own 10 different products not including SPMO. And
yet after I bought those 8 first products, I found it best to take my time and get to know the products; have
patience. Try one mix for like a month or so... see how it works in different situations... on different days
:angel:
Well... That's about what I got to say. I hope I was usefull :p. :welcome: and good luck.
Oh and
another tip: Read read read:POKE:
It'll be good for you to read and then go and check out the things you read, in
the action-world ;)
P.S.
Here are two more things that you might find valuable:
- A link to
The Cookbook (where you learn how to
mix).
- A quote of one of my other posts:
Quote:
Originally Posted by
tenaciousBLADE
You should be aware that when people here
say they mix `mones, they may mean one of two things:
1) Some people mix just as you said you do - in an
atomizer or a similar bottle-type-thing.
2) Some people (I myself usually choose this way), mix `mone products
by distributing a certain amount of one product on specific parts of their body, then smearing it around, rubbing it
in, or using any other methd to distribut the product in as even a way as possible through the selected part of
their body (wrists, neck, jaw, jaw-line, hip-sides, etc. etc.), and then putting a different `mone-product on a
different (or sometimes over the same) parts of their body... and then covering it all up with their favorite
cologne.
Those are the two methods of mixing I know :)
Stay in the game - be strong... Learn
from your ODs ^_^
Oh my! 3 dabs of NPA??:blink::blink:
Mate - that's probably an OD :trout:
I'm 23 years young and I use 1 dab of NPA tops. Maybe at some rare occasions do I try 1 dab on my body + half a
dab on the front on my pants to get attension there; and that's only at clubs where there are big crowds of people
and all their natural-`mones are mixing in the air, so mine are tough to find ;)
Use TE mate. It's the
same formula as NPA, only 5 times more diluted (I mean less consentrated.. umm...:angel: ).
And seriously
dude, read The Minimalist
Manifesto. I know it's long but it'll save you tons of troube and ODing :D
Quote:
Originally Posted by
crashbandicoot
will keep posting on chikara usage
soe and wagg all seperately or combined
since
these seem like the mones I should experiment with
at this age.
Yeah.. you got that right :thumbsup:
SE
has `nol, which is uch better for younger guys like us. And Chikara has 7 `mones in it, but it's soft and heavier
on the `nol that the other ones if I recall correctly :think:
You can also add TE to the SOE if you want. At your
age (and my age) TE is great.
Here, let me link you my favorite mix. I use it almost daily and it has TE & SOE in
it. Read the green text in
this post
Quote:
Originally Posted by
crashbandicoot
I
work at a bodybuilding and health
food store
with lots of health concious babes, and also
go to community
college so lots of testing opportunity
I'm also gonna use a few openers and play alot.
Nice! You have a
great opportunity and a wonderful play-ground. Have fun with it - experience :D
And go easy on the `none mate.
Start from less, and go up slowly untill you get it right. If you OD again, just lower the `none dosage. There's no
nead to avoid it all together :)... just lower the dosage untill you find the right amounts that fit you.
P.S.
Again, I strongly recommend also reading
The Cookbook.
