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LT has been hard for me to
see anything.
Certainly not the sledgehammer of soe or npa.
It may have made me and gf very "trancy" and talky
one time- we were kinda hyper which was unusual.
In social situations, I found the
effects of LT subtle at best. Perhaps you need to be on top of your subject and staring in her eyes for results. But
then if you got that far you wouldn't need LT. Fortunately the bottle makes a nice atomizer. When I finish mine I
plan to top it off with an Issey Miyaye Summer and Androstanone mix.
LT has been very consistent
for me. I think I know why you aren'ts seeing results.
First time you applied 2 sprays and you covered
it!
LT doesn't need a cover scent, because it has no scent! Yes, it has a funky scent the first few seconds,
but wait just a minute and you can't smell a thing.
Also, ONLY APPLY TO CLOTHES. That is what has made it one
of my most solid items. I put on 4 sprays, 2x to each shoulder, and sometime even three sprays in triangular shape
around my chest.
I think 4-6 sprays ON CLOTHES is the optimal amount. If you don't think the stuff is for
real, try spraying 5 sprays on your hand and then rubbing it on your upper lip, right under your nose. You'll see
how it effects you! It gives for a nice buzz actually, and you will experience some very "candid slips" with
others.
I agree to Smooth. It works
consitently on me, on myself. It takes away any bad feelings in uncomfortable social situations when I wear it on my
upper lip, right under my nose.
To get it to work on others, I also need at least 6 sprays. I have the idea that
it does not travel much through the air.
Because if others would experience the same effect I get from just one
spray in my upper lip... WOW!
The very first time I got a great buzz, I have now habituated, so the effects are
subtle but still, this stuff is invaluable for me at business meetings where I would normally feel uncomfortable. It
helps to change my feeling A LOT, so my behavior changes which has a big influence on others.
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Since we don't know if the
chemicals of the cologne interfere with the oxytocin, it might be wise not to mix it. I put the LT on clothes and
the cologne on my neck...
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Keep us posted :goodpost:
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I like true live-reports... keep
the channel open :-)
^those are good detailed
posts.
Let me just say though...I kind of get the feeling you may be expecting the wrong type of result with
it?
At first when I tried it, I didn't know what to expect. But the types of effects are not usually sexual at
all when I use it.
The times I've used it, the "hits" have been...
- co-manager at work telling me the
things he hates about my manager, like talking behind his back (stuff he would not normally say)
- my boss telling
me he really wishes he had done such and such, and how much he really doesn't feel he's in the right
career...
For the most part, it's like people rant to me about stuff that they usually wouldn't. Stuff I would
not find out if it wasn't for LT.
In a way, I kind of actually regret using it sometimes because when you find
out some stuff about some people - at least me - it makes me feel a different way about them. Like my boss for
example, he's always so "jolly" around work, but when I wore LT around him that time I almost felt like he was
going to cry about how he really hates his job. It was just a little disturbing.
I can also definitely feel LT
working when I wear it with NPA, PI, or another -none heavy 'mone. With those, I usually get people being very
edgy around me, and women being fidgety. But when I put on the LT, they are still very magnetized, just a lot more
comfortable. They are more comfortable touching me, it's like they're in a trance state. But then when LT wears
off in like 2-3hrs, I can suddenly feel the edginess coming back.
So, I guess my advice is look for the subtle
effects. LT isn't sexual or attention-grabbing, at least in my experience. It's really nice with a -none
product.
The only "sexual" hit I had with it was once at a store, I was also wearing a dab of NPA and a girl
approached me. She was really comfortable touching my arm etc, and for some reason I was also really comfortable
around her like I already knew her, so comfortable that I almost kissed her within a minute of talking to her
(actually didn't right then but almost)... It was sweet. With straight NPA she would have probably eyed me, but
not approached and would be more nervous I'd guess.
Try getting into some lengthy conversations with people,
sitting like 2ft away. You'll be talking for like 5-6min, then the other person may start getting too honest about
some things. It seems like it works best like this...it takes time to "settle in" with your target. Actually, you
don't even have to be talking much...as long as you sit close to someone for like more than 5min, they may get
affected.
Keep us posted ;)
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I tried LT , didn't notice any real
results but I did tend to use 4 sprays only....
I seem to often get people telling me "secrets" , part of my job is
to listen to people talking alot of the time and I've learnt a lot of techniques over the years to get people to
open up. As result it's not uncommon for me to have a stranger tell me very personnal details of their life , in
short I'm a natural listener.
With regards to LT I didn't notice much difference , maybe if I upped the dose? I
used it with SOE alot of the time so it may have been difficult to notice any "extra" honesty.
Anyway , seasons
greetings and all that to everyone!
interesting comments I
used 4 sprays and have not noticed any great revalations from anyone or any new news that I didn't already
know
I will try the 6 sprays next and see what happens ?
The one female I know likes me (but will sleep with
me(not yet anyway LOL) showed No effect or revealed any thing that I do not know in fact she acted more quite than
normal and seemed preoccipied)
So new test next week
Starship Warrior
Guys, wear one full spray on your
upper lip and right under your nose (don't spray into the nose of cause), put it on right before you go into a
situation where you would otherwise feel socially uncomfortable or even have a little bit of anxiety.
See if you
notice a difference!
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I finally had some results
while wearing LT that are worth mentioning. Last night while wearing my typical SOE and NPA combo I decided to add
3 sprays of LT to my shirt. I did the usual stuff go to a bar and be myself and noticed nothing different here. I
was at a very busy bar where I knew very few people so I knew it would be a good test ground. Well anyways ended
meeting a girl (cute shy type) and making out with her in the parking lot. I have made out with lots of girls
before, but this is where it got different. This girl during this time could not control what she was saying. She
would say what she wants and how she likes it without me asking, but would not go through with it. I'm not going
to post exact details, but you get the point. I have been with lots of girls who told me how they like it and the
such before but this was different. It's hard to explain but it was like one freudian slip after another. In the
end my point is this: it may or may not have been the LT but it was different than I have ever expierienced before
and was worth mentioning.
That's what I am mainly using it for!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mungojerry
It feels like I habituated to it because I don't get
the buzz any more, but it still seems to work, I just don't notice it that much consciously. Since I am putting LT
under my nose before every meeting which could become uneasy for me - they ALL felt easy and of cause this had
really improved my social interactions (not that they were bad before, but there is not limit of getting even
better).
So, please try it and give us some feedback!
Marlboro Man, I am glad that you had unusual fun in
the parking lot :wave: Over time you should see if LT plays a role in your mix or not...
Thanks Sunny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunny
Ok update on past post: I hung out with same girl last night and of
course this time wore the NPA & SOE combo without the LT for comparison sake. Girl had same sexual drive as before,
if not more, but definitely was MUCH more conservative with what she said. We ended up taking it to another level
last night, but it wasn't her saying what she wanted to do to me, rather it was the more traditional way of me
reading the signs and offering suggestions. Maybe there is something to this after all, I am curious to see if
anyone else is seeing similar things.
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YES!!! That's exactly what I am doingQuote:
Originally Posted by Mungojerry
all the time, Mungojerry! Your expericence sounds very familiar to me.
I usually spray on the back of my hand
and then rub it under my nose. I don't think it's a problem, as long as you don't spray it INTO your nose, like
on your mucous tissue (never happened to me).
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I am now talking about the times when I consciouslyQuote:
Originally Posted by Mungojerry
noticed the difference: It makes my mood more mellow, or soft. It takes the edge off, even off a very positive mood,
makes me more cuddly. The helpful effect is really more in socially tense situations. It would be very helpful to
overcome approach anxiety, for me it's with tough clients.
Nowadays I am normally not consciously able to
notice effects, but when I look back to pre-LT times, my level of comfort with certain clients has really been
transformed.
I think it's a great idea to test the effect on yourself during things like engagements, public
spreaking (for the anxious ones) or even to reduce approach anxiety for PUA training etc.
Keep those reports
coming!
Hey guys,
Thanks for the
new concept of how to use it. Now I just need to get nervous again and have it with me. Maybe I will go out this
weekend to somewhere new, but probably unlikely due to the holidays. I will try your approach eventually and report
back.