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Hi, I know this
topic has been discussed before, but I haven't got any solid conclusion from the previous threads.
The newer
batch of PI has a dot on it. Does anyone know what this dot is?
I'm one of those who can smell none and damn
well too... but I don't smell anything in this PI.
Could it be a defective batch or placebo control test
batch or something else... ?
Does anyone has any solid hits from this batch?
I believe the dot means that it is
the UNscented (ie, NOT The ylang ylang) version, and you should therefore be able to smell some aNONE in there. If
you are familiar with the aNONE smell and can not smell it in your bottle of PI, please send it back and we will get
you either a bottle of the new unscented A7 or a good bottle of unscented Primal. I will send some from my office
if necessary. Make sure to put a note in with the return.
Very sorry about that,
Bruce
Thanks Bruce! Your customer
service is really top-notch! :)
Will get it in the mail by today or tomorrow.
I obtained my New Alpha 7 one month ago for the sameQuote:
Originally Posted by Oceanborn
reason that you will receive yours, and just let me tell you, there is no mistaking the great aNONE smell associated
with this product, not only that, but it works like magic, well it works great for me, and it is versatile as well.
Your going to like this stuff, just remember one drop is around 20mcg aNONE, or more, and i feel that the little
added aRONE really gives this pheromone a nice touch of class, makes it a real smooth operator.
Bruce
I have same problem with
'dot' PI. Bought from german operator but cannot smell aNone. Is it some kind of production fault?
After
several applications, even OD, there were absolutely no reaction. It certainly doesn't work. On the bottle it says
5mg aNone, how can that be?
I also thought PIQuote:
Originally Posted by euro
could be relied upon to be a consistant and a quality product, but that has gone by the wayside now, and it is
Goodbye sweet PI goodbye, so sad to see you go :sick: , you were the man, but now only mice and memories roam around
your once well maintained playing field. Hmmmmm, i better have some breakfast as i am a little light headed ha ha..
:rant:
Before I put the dud PI in the
mail today, I put on 10! drops of it. Yup, no OD reaction whatsoever.
My guess is.. (all based on
speculation):
1) Something happened on the assembly line, so they put a 'dot' on all defective
bottles.
2) It's a placebo test batch. They want to see if pheromones really work, so they make some "sugar
pill" batch to see how many gets returned.
3) Some other company tries to make fake products. Hey, they can
copy rolax watches, ink catriages and perfumes. So why not PI?
The problem now is, I've got some mixes with
this dud PI added. And I dunno what to do with 'em...
But I'm very glad that I purchased it from love-scent
and Bruce is handling this matter very well.
IQuote:
Originally Posted by Oceanborn
wonder as well, as to how many counterfeit products are getting around, as it is a good point, as the labels all
appear not to be to complex in their design patterns. Oh, bye the way mine had a red dot on it that i had actually
removed when i received it, oh well Bruce has it now, i hope he can get a return on the dud ones that he is getting
back, as he is handling the matter most graciously with regard to us customers, and our trade in on the A7,
certainly taking the sting out of an unpleasant purchase, good on him, he is a good bloke.
With 'dot', do you mean a
large red dot on the bottle? There is one such dot taped on a bottle of TE I bought, and I don't know what it
means, if anything?
:welcome: My red dot was just stuck on as it had glue on one side, but i am not sure of the reason it had beenQuote:
Originally Posted by Ectoplasm
there on. How much TE are u using ?
Im going to have to have a look at my browser set up, as i am
not receiving any notifications when someone posts on a thread that i have entered into, ill see if i can fix it.
somehow ??
Quote:
Originally Posted by terry0400-40
Thank you!
I haven't used anything yet, I'm a complete newbie with this stuff. Here's a picture of my
bottle (which says "fragranced" btw). As you can see, the dot is taped on, not glued. Just curious what it means...
:)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...n/P1010003.jpg
I have had the same problem with pheromax whichQuote:
Originally Posted by euro
I have bought on a german internet-shop! I could not smell anything although usually I can smell Anone! Furthermore
I could not notice any reactions by other people no matter how many I have applied!
Is there a possibility to
test a product if and which pheromones are including? Perhaps which a control strip? If yes where can I get this
one?
I think the only inexpensive way to detetect the pheros is by way of smell and or by way ofQuote:
Originally Posted by stuttgart-man
perceived reactions on ourselves and others, I think if there was a test available ie similar to how lipmus paper
detects acidicy and alcalinity, then this would be a cause for many pheromone dealers and products to go out of
business. In conclusion i think apart from our own observations,the only way we can get feedback on products is
mainly through the collective opinions of forum members, and the only recource is to return products that we are not
satisfied with. About a year ago i purchased a few ml of Pheromax from ebay usa, and i also had the same effects and
observations from it as you have discribed, at the high price of this stuff containing about 5mg/14mL Pheromones you
would really want to make sure you were ordering through a good dealer, I have seen some good feedback on the p/max,
but it is seems a little overpriced to me.
Anyone know this...?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ectoplasm
4.) They 'expired'.
5.)
A box fell off the truck on the way from the factory to the warehouse. And it was exposed to the intense Colorado
sunshine for 40 days and 40 nights...
6.) The elves in Bruce's factory took a nap.
(Don't believe
everything I've said. :D)
At first I have purchased a 2ml of pheromax/man. This one have had a strong smellQuote:
Originally Posted by terry0400-40
combined with good results! After that I have decided to buy the big 14ml bottle! But this one have had absolutely
no scent after the alcohlol were evaporated! I don`t know if there was perhaps a mistake in production or it was a
false product! If I would know that the big 14ml would have the same concentration like the small 2ml, I immediately
would re-buy PM!
Terry, what is your opinion of the new
PI.Thatis the new batches compared to the old ones.I have noticed that you had a liking to this product previously.
Also i mistakenly purchased women NPA, with the super combo deal.Are they essentialy the same? And what do you
think of A7 as a substitute for PI. Sorry for all the questions dude.
I did eventually send my dud PI back to the store,and i am now usingQuote:
Originally Posted by woofa1
Alpha 7 which is just working magic for me, alone or in mixes , i find it as good as it gets. So at the moment i do
not trust PI ... Yikes NPA/w it says on the womans sales page that it is a concentrated Androstenone product, and
that there are two distinct formulas m+f, also i am not sure if the APC/w or PF/w have any differences apart from
fragrances. You could always send it back for trade on mans combo, just send Tammy Smith or Bruce an email to
confirm first. I dont mind answering questions if i can be of assistance its cool, i always ask questions when i
need to. :cheers:
It seems like sometimes can be lucky and get good shit, andQuote:
Originally Posted by stuttgart-man
sometimes just get dud, maby this is the name of the game, Yes could be production mistake, of fake product copy, or
a thief working in distribution. There is only one sure thing about the purchase of pheromone and that is, There is
a chance of getting a good thing. In conclusion i can only recommend ordering from a trusted dealer who will accept
returns, or trade for alternate product. Regarding P/Max, this can be good shit if you can be guaranteed of getting
the real deal.
hi Terry, how are you
buddy?
to the original poster, if you can get hold of alpha 7, get that, its a much better product than PI, i
have been using it with pretty good results lately, the new PI is not the same as the PI of a few years ago, seems
like the product has diminished in quality, I was a fan of it a few years ago and used it daily with good results,
but now there are better products on the market,
hey woofa, alpha 7 is a solid
product, better than PI in my opinion
HEY HEYQuote:
Originally Posted by bronzie
HEY Bronze Warrior, welcome back from the firing front. Speaking of A7 i have it on right now,one drop,with one of
A314, so you see i am armed and dangerous, oiled and ready 4 action, as the Big A's have me covered. :wave:
Hi,
I`m interesting in
A7, but I´m going very easily to OD (usually more than 10mcg are dangerous)! Does the including Rone prevent or
decrease OD-effects?
IQuote:
Originally Posted by stuttgart-man
find that the aRONE certainly softens the Alpha 7 and makes it a very smooth operator, able to be worn alone easily
at one drop for me, perhaps 1/2 drop or 10 mcg would not be enough for me, mind you when i wear one or two drops
with an added 20" SOE the action really hots up all around. If you find that 10 mcg is good for you then you will be
left with 1/2 drop remaining in your palm to be deposited in a suitable container, or you could add the remaining
amount to a spray bottle, I have used 3/4 of my A7 and made several 10ml and 15 ml mixes up with with other
pheromones added to use at one or two sprays of my choosing, depending upon the venues i have chosen to appear at,
The A7 really makes a terrific base for mixes i have found, ha ha Yes Alpha 7 is the allround good guy who will
make you oooh, so BAD :angel:
well
I bought fake PI from
german operator. However, same operator has sent to me I believe genuine Pheromax. P-max has strong odor, so many
friends had said to me that I stink and need to go under shower*!? I tried to cover with Armani Code but they still
thought I stink.
Now, how can I avoid this problem. Re. P-max usefullness, I am not too satisfied, results are
modest if any.
Hi Euro,Quote:
Originally Posted by euro
do the Pheromax you have bought include
Androstadienone and is so the new one?
I have bought an absolutely scentless Pheromax two years ago (new
formular with Androstadienone)!
And I have a (perhaps crazy) theory! Does perhaps the scentless Androstadienone
covers the bad smelling None? Ok, I grant you that this theory is really a little bit curious! But it would be a
explanation!
T-man:wave: sup braddah. Just wanted 2 share that whenever I hear ya sayQuote:
Originally Posted by terry0400-40
Smooth Operator I always get that one cheesy ass 80's American pop song stuck in my head. LMAO:P cheers.
Yea its funny how a phrase or word can start playing in our headQuote:
Originally Posted by lilstitch
after being triggered off by summat, Sometimes i either get a flashback or am vibrated into another dimension when
i hear some Dark side of the moon or Wish you were here also, others but i know there is a good reason for it when
thinking back to the time when there was Californian Sunshine dished out freely and in ample supply.ooooh yea
........