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Originally Posted by jkohl
My bet is that the chemical signal is based upon either -rone or -nolQuote:
Originally Posted by CollegeStudent
production. It is unlikely that it's -none related since -none is typically an aversive scent. Martha McClintock's
group is probably well on their way to isolating the chemical by now. Monel scientists Charles Wysocki and George
Preti already suggested that the key to human pheromone discovery would be finding an effect on luteinizing hormone
(LH) of the particular chemical that's isolated.
JVK
You might be able to
synthesize the chemical by treating typical steroids or apocrine secretions with the afirementioned mother's milk
bacteria, assuming coryneforms or other strains found more on women don't have to get to it first to make it
"digestible".
Perhaps I am not too late to
add to the original theme of this thread:
I also noticed that since I began frequent use of low-dose chikara,
my muscle mass and tone have improved (noted by not only me, but by my woman and the camera as well) while slightly
reducing weight (hence, the tiny bit of fat that I had).
make sure you dont use too much
chikara then, cuz you might get gyno symptoms...lol
ROFLMAO.... I can just see it
now.... "Pheromones gave me b*tch-tits!"
:LOL:
MB
Just keep your Nolva onQuote:
Originally Posted by sonicbum
hand!!!
Adams
The comments about "gyno
symptoms" or breast growth make no sense.
The effects to which I refer seem androgenic, NOT estrogenic.
I don't think the
gyno commens were directed to you. It is a running joke that anything anabolic or otherwise is claimed to yield
muscle mass will inevitably have a novice claiming estrogenic side effects. For instance, "I took X grams of
creatine for Y days and now have a size DD bra". Or, "I once looked at a stash of 4-AD and increased my fatty
breast tissue by X percent".
Don't worry...it's a bodybuildr's joke :)
Bobby
Damn killer calm down... Just a joke for someone who uses anabolics... Excess Test Turnes toQuote:
Originally Posted by ismellgood
Estrogen.
Adams
Perhaps the swiftness of my
getting irritated above is further "evidence" of an androgenic effect of pheromones.
:)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ismellgood
You mean... the oh so mythical "Roid Rage"??? :rofl:
Adams
IQuote:
Originally Posted by jvkohl
AGREE WITH JV, the copulins will raise test levels scientifically proven. and the first time i tried cops under my
nose i got 2 more reps on a heavy weight bench press. but i also had some very potent none on too. so from now on
cops goes under nostrils before workout time. :type:
I'd advise against using the none; it would be somewhat likeQuote:
Originally Posted by BIONIC MAN
working out with an alpha male--a guy who could always outdo you. The effect in other animals is a form of chemical
castration, where the alpha male's testosterone increases (because he's the undeclared winner), while yours
decreases. I'm ridiculously paranoid about this -- to the point of trying to ensure I don't inhale, when someone
who's more muscular than me passes by. Of course, when an attractive woman passes by, I'll do my best to catch a
good whiff of her--that's always come natural to me, even long before I knew anything about
pheromones.
Okay, I know some of you probably workout with a friend, or sometimes use a "spotter." If the guy
is helping you, he's probably not going to have the effect of an alpha male. But if you can find a nice young lady
to work out with, that's the best scenario; even better than using
cops.
JVK
I was not sure about power increase ,Quote:
Originally Posted by jvkohl
i did read studies by you and some other researchers . and the cops study did show test increase. the none could be
bad for lifting is what you are saying? but i guess the other guys in the gym would be weaker since my od none would
make me the alpha male:trout: one question i was pondering on does rone convert to none ?:think:
Wonderful! I knew there was a good reasonQuote:
Originally Posted by jvkohl
to spar with Linda, beside her being pleassant to look at that is.
The none OD at the gym doesn't make much sense to me. I'd care more about the cops effectQuote:
Originally Posted by BIONIC MAN
on me, rather than the none effect on others. There's almost always someone who's more muscular, and usually more
men than women on the free weights. Best to ensure that cops are increasing your testosterone, and not worry about
your none effect on other men. Besides, the none OD isn't likely to get any positive attention from women. I don't
think that any studies have shown rone to none conversion--not sure if that's even possible due to a difference
between C-17 and C-19 conversion.
JVK
ThinkQuote:
Originally Posted by belgareth
about the cops effect when she kicks to the head. Now, try not to think about it next time she does it--focus man,
focus.
Best workout partner I ever had was a young lady who sounded like she was having an orgasm each time
she increased the weight while approaching her max. Go Sally, Go--more weight, more weight, lots of guys cheering
her on, she never needed to ask for a spotter.
JVK
Thanks :box: im very interested in the rone , it just seems people run if you got an od going on with the none.:run:Quote:
Originally Posted by jvkohl
could you od on rone?:think:
i find that if I put some TE
under my nose I get very aggressive which is useful when doing anything to do with sport.
I go running, play
football, sprint, cycle, work out a little, etc., and I usually wear both EW and TE under my nose if I really want
to go for it.
I've only known a few women who were super sensitive to rone, and found itQuote:
Originally Posted by BIONIC MAN
aversive-except for pregnant women, who almost invariably found it to smell very bad--even in the lowest
concentration. Simply put, I think you can OD on anything, but an OD with rone is much less likely than with other
products.
JVK
theQuote:
Originally Posted by jvkohl
rone might be a better choice for me with a little nol. the none makes people run from me:run: that does make me
wonder why people push none so much .:thumbsup: