I've got a little
bit of Scent Of Eros that's been sitting in my drawer for about 3 years now. Could it be the nol in it has
converted to none after so long?
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I've got a little
bit of Scent Of Eros that's been sitting in my drawer for about 3 years now. Could it be the nol in it has
converted to none after so long?
I recon if it has been kept airtight it should be in original condition, especially if it has hadQuote:
Originally Posted by Numanoid
little use.
If it has been used as a rollon for many applications previously then there is a chance it may
have become contaminated by skin sweat or bacterial residues.
Otherwise give it a smell test see if ya can detect any aNONE smell, that is if ya have the nose
to detect aNONE.
If it hasn't had any conversion it should
smell pleasant and non offensive initially, and after 10 minutes or so you should not notice any smell if it is an
unscented version., or if scented then just a slightly pleasant fragrance.
Terry's probably right about
the storage issue. If its been in your drawer it should be OK.
I think, but could be wrong, that the -nol to
-none conversion happens on skin where there is a biological process with skin chemistry, which should not happen in
a bottle.
Like Terry said, give it a sniff. Its not scientific but will give you a clue. Does is smell like
SoE? Or NPA/TE...
Just something i picked up in the cookbook.
Confirms Idesigns comments.
-nol to -none conversion
There have been a
lot of discussions in the forum about this issue... The truth is that the conversion from -nol to -none does happen,
but it won't be a big issue for -nol products users.
Androstenol (which is a
secondary alcohol) differs from
androstenone (which is
a ketone) because of two hydrogen atoms that the latter lacks: these can be converted to water if an adequate
catalyst is present. The chemical reaction would be as follows:
C19H30O
(androstenol) +
(oxygen) = C19H28O
(androstenone) +
H2O
Luckily, in the usual wearing conditions, there isn't a catalyst strong enough to make this reaction happen
fast, so the -nol will anyway convert to -none since it's exposed to oxidation, but it's going to happen very
slowly. To get the idea SoE, which contains -nol, is reported to first show signs of -none alteration only after 8
hours from first application.
I doubt the carrier in SoE
would be a good environment for bacterial growth. It seems very likely that there has been little if any
conversion.
If this is correct, then all you have to worry about is build-up, which IQuote:
Originally Posted by terry0400-40
can't imagine being too much of a problem since diffusion occurs simultaneously with the conversion.
Not a bad
idea to keep build-up in mind though.
Thanks for the research Terry. :)
It was revealed to me when i read a replyQuote:
Originally Posted by idesign
to a thread called "For everyone !!! " Mountain Jim did post a reply with instructions "click here" or something
similar if i recall,
So i am not quite as smart as ya think i am,
te he. :lol: PS now im really cooking :D
Maybe that is why it is better to
use an eye drop bottles instead of the roll on bottles. It keeps the product fresh & clean & away from the skin
applications.
Maby there is some truth also in theQuote:
Originally Posted by Guy101
assunption of Belgareth when he states :- Quote
"I doubt the carrier in SoE would be a good environment for
bacterial growth. It seems very likely that there has been little if any conversion." Unquote.
However whenever
i use it as a roll on i roll the amount needed on to a clean fingertip and then transfer it to the chosen
application area, this way i also judge the correct amount i have chosen to use.
Even though most of my
applications have been via a glass pheromone dropper and then transfered into a chosen mix with added aNONE and
choice of cologne ect.
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