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had it today...i
overdosed on my SOE+A1+B.nol mixture...i got a depression dat is so severe i can't do my work...everything seems
dull and blue...
was better after 8 hrs or so....next time i will only wear it for dates....lucky its only a
small bottle of mixing...i still got my trusty old SOE "Original"..
I guess I'm lucky A-1 doesn't
effect me one iota. I normally only need one or 2 drops to stop the GF PMS mood swings. However I've used up to 6
drops hoping for some sexual side effects and it didn't bother me. The high dose was a bust as far as anything else
was concerned. Perhaps you'll get used to it. After I used mones for a few months all self-medication effects faded
away.
true....but i better lower the
amt used....hahaa...its really a bad experience to get the depression...really bad...
A-1 doesn't bother me either, I
use 1-2 drops mixed usually with SoE and A7. I've also used 3-4 drops with the same woman with no additional
effect.
Too bad about the depression belmont. Did you use a cover? There's a chance it might overcome the
depression if its a scent that you really like or has mood lifting constituents.
Having said that, I know that
the two work in different ways, but who knows?
I wouldn't wear that mix unless you're dating Sylvia Plath.
no cover...but i just got my pheros and a roll-on coverscent from LS....so i mightQuote:
Originally Posted by idesign
use them sparingly. pheros smell real nice...
i'm better sticking back to my regular SOE or taper the dosage
down...
i got the best hit using dat mix dats y i am sticking to it...but i guess it should be the ultimate
weapon and shouldn't use it daily for work...i have had a female colleague stand so close to me when she
talk....haha.
I agree. Try just SoEQuote:
Originally Posted by belmont
covered with Pheros, its great. Save the A1 for intimate settings, like you said. A1 might be a bit too cozy for
work.
Love hearing about "standing so close". That's what its all about.
she wasQuote:
Originally Posted by idesign
standing so close its considered rude as its 'intruding' into personal 'area'....but i dun really mind as she is
a female...haahhahahaha.
gonna try pheros+scented SOE on Monday....
haha belmont. I was wearing
AE+SOE combo. Today i woke up feel damn horny. got a hard on. Dunno why. issit because side effect of AE ? or what?
:twisted:
1 question do you wear any coverQuote:
Originally Posted by belmont
when you are on mones?
my SOE is scented so no cover....but i bought theQuote:
Originally Posted by sgcliques
miyake or something rollon coverscent in case i wanna go 'raw' on A1+bnol for some reason.
i have yet to try my
chikara gelpacks yet...haha.
you won't go wrong with SOE as the base mixture...just add chikara or something
else and u have a relatively good mix.
i might stock up on pheros if it gives me good hit on Thursday's
date...it smells good and makes me feel dat everything is wonderful etc....
I have SoE scented but still cover it. Nothing wrong with the SoE scent, but covers are nicerQuote:
Originally Posted by belmont
and last longer.
I get a good feeling from Pheros too, and it makes a great cover. It works with everything.
Try it with your A1 mix and it might overcome the depression.
and what about
Estratetraenol? A study from Kohl said, that Estra leads to depression in men, too wheras a link at LS said, that
Estra is the opposite of A1 and so have mone elevating effects in men! Any experiences?
http://pherolibrary.com/human-pherom...atetraenol.htm
Quote:
Originally Posted by stuttgart-man
Do you have a link to the Kohl study where Jim has stated this? I'm as
up on pheromones as anyone, and either I missed this or this isn't true.:confused:
I have some chemset
Estratetraenol (EST) as well as Realm (EST is the active mone). I can't say it's done much for me: no depression
but no relaxation--nuttin'. Maybe, like cops, it would work better if applied to a live hot chick...
no idea, didn't try dat...iQuote:
Originally Posted by stuttgart-man
have enough things to play with already....haha
A-1 brings me down too. Not as
bad as you but it is unpleasant. If I use it, it is just a bit on the BACK of my neck, near the hair
line.
It does indeed have a use for PMS though - the price of male self-defense I guess.
yah, so i am only applying a-1 minutes before my date now....not wholeday. reducing the amountQuote:
Originally Posted by Whitehall
too....dun wanna feel so blue.
Quote:
Originally Posted by stuttgart-man
I'm
haven't really noticed depressive feelings from A1, but it does seem like it makes me somewhat sleepy. I actually
made a mix of EST and A1 (one to one) that I apply and seem to have good results with. I don't seem to get as
tired with it, and I still find that responses appear to be good from
women.
So this was the culprit...
I have been feeling horrible these last two or so months, going into the first depression in my life... for no
apparent reason.
But its a price I have to pay.
Too bad about the depression, itQuote:
Originally Posted by ShyAsianGuy26
sucks and its not good for your social ventures. Try to find a cover scent that gives you a mood boost. It works,
and there are many fragrances, one of them is sure to please.
given time u will get used to it
but dun apply too much too...best is apply it before you meet your target so u won't be much affected.
Yea, I know what you
mean... :lovestruc
:goodpost:
I have a horrible theory about A1
(androstadienone) depression (and if you use it JVK, please contact me so you can credit me in your
article!).
A1 is a pheromone secreted by men which makes women feel calm and protected.
So why would
A1 make some men feel anxious or depressed? It's a male pheromone, after all?
Because A1 is a pheromone
secreted by Alpha Males, and it makes the beta males anxious and depressed. This makes it easier for the alphas to
get all the women.
Horrible, huh? That means that if A1 makes you anxious or depressed, you're probably not
as alpha as you think you are or would like to be.
Even more horrible: it makes me depressed too.
Quote:
Originally Posted by belmont
I've thought similar things
about some guys "edgy" reaction to -none...if it makes you edgy you are probably not used to being around it and so
are probably not secreting it as a metabolite of testosterone and so chances are (biologically/evolutionarily (<--
that a real word??!)) you are not alpha.
Interesting thoughts. That'sQuote:
Originally Posted by CptKipling
the main reason I don't/can't wear NPA.
I live in what is still a pretty rural (aka redneck) part of the
southern US. A lot of guys think they are alpha, but mostly just sport a cocky attitude. A few confrontations
later I stopped the heavy -none use. I am far from aggressive.
That is an interesting theory,
but it could also be due to the fact that we are dealing with mones in unnatural quantities. Few males (alpha or
otherwise) are likely to secrete pheromones that are this strong for such an extended period of
time.
Interesting theory indeed. I am
not a physically intimidating guy, but am often described as having a lot of charisma. I don't know why but I have
to be careful with my manner, or I will seem to reject someone when that is not my intention.
Adding NPA to that
personal vibe has proven to be too intimidating for some men and women. I've had success with TE and A7 though,
and have learned to temper the raw -none with -rol and -rone concoctions like SoE and C7.
A1 works wonders for
me, and it may be the ultimate -none balancer in certain intimate situations.