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Hey Gents,
A while back there was an active thread about Liquid Trust. There was some debate about its potential for
effectiveness, as well as some posts that gave it mixed reviews.
Does anyone still use it? Why or why not?
If you do find it's effective, how do you use it and what do you mix it with?
Thanks,
-CAt
I purchased some of it and still have about 10 mls left inQuote:
Originally Posted by CAtriathlete
the bottle after using about 2/3 of a bottle i would say i did notice a positive effect by spraying 4 times on outer
chest shirt areas at about shoulder height.
This stuff seems to have an effect for me if i use 4 or more sprays and it does
not seem to be very enduring, but it did give me positive results.
During a crucial interveiw the female
interveiwer repeated to me an several occasions " I believe everything you are saying" I had 4 sprays on, the
interveiwer asked me to call her back on the telephone which i did do an hour later, and she seemed very doubtfull
that it was actually I that had spoken with her an hour previously, for some reason i dont really know why she said
this when i was speaking on the phone.
I Think you could get a
result from it if you used enough, but it is an expensive shot and also not considered by the majority of my
contacts as being a very effective product.
I keep mine in the refrigerator door as some users think that it may be heat
sensitive.
If i get an appropriate window sometime soon i will give it another run and report back. :cheers:
I've had positive reactions with
women when using the LT. Usually a "I feel like I really know you" and "You make me feel so safe". Short lived,
but effective. I probably will buy again when I run out, although I only use it for 1st, 2nd, 3rd dates and
business meetings.
Hi, I have an accademic project presentation. Actually it is re-presentation. The first one was thrown out by the
lecturer largly due personality clash. I wont bore you with the gorey details.
Suffice to say I am
resubmitting it and requested an independent accessor to be present. The project is judged purely by my
presentation. It is going to be a tense oral exam. The examinors are going to consist of two male power brokers and
an attractive female lecturer.
To date I have used Liquid Trust and found it quite effective in similar
circumstances including job interviews. Although i did not realise the effects are so short lived.
Do you
think I would be playing with fire if I added some Alter Ego to give me an aura of confidence along with trust?
Considering men might be intimidated.
I tend to signal incongruent messages when under a lot of pressure both
relating to men and attractive women.
I appreciate all constructive input
I don't know about you but it
sounds like an important occasion to me , I'd rather lay off the none (AE) UNLESS I'm very sure of the amount that
works well. Otherwise , You can't go wrong if you use some SOE. (with or without AE / LT)
How about getting some
friends together and role playing in front of them if you are feeling a bit unsure of your presentation. As you said
, confidence is what the examiners are looking for so you need to have no doubts about what you put across , you
must have someone that can "mentor" you for this exam and help mentally prepare you?
'Mones will help , but you
need to have the inner game goin' on too.
Good luck!
Ditto gaf's remarks. Stay away from -noneQuote:
Originally Posted by Eugene
products in professional situations.
Not sure what you mean by the tendency to "signal incongruent messages".
Perhaps you're confident with your work but less confident on a personal level. If so, I have that same
"incongruity".
gaf is right, you must have your game on. Believe in your mind that you have a powerful idea
which is valid and important. Why else would you have spent so much hard work and time developing your thesis? You
are the man, and "power brokers and attractive female lecturers" are simply other people who need to see your
light. Give it to them.
Its hard to advise on mones, but I've had huge success with SoE in business situations,
and A1, but I use that more in social situations. SoE lasts nicely, apply to pulse points and other bare skin 1 hr
before presentation. Maybe 6-10" overall, spread around. Repeat, discourage -none usage.
If its the attractive
lecturer who threw out your first presentation SoE may help, its soothing and friendly. You may want to cover it
with a light classy cologne if its the unscented version of SoE. Even then I like to cover.
Anything you use
will have the most effect in close situations.
Hope this helps,
Greg
Thak you all for the prompt and helpful replies. You have all guessed correctly that i am quite confident in my
profession. The incongruence has to do more with personal historic life long baggage and still being worked
on.
Interestingly the academic issue reflect these patterns. I.e. bullying and harrassment...
There
are a total of three male lecturers involved who rely primarily on "behind closed door" 3 against 1 assessments.
They tried to frame me cuz I complained about their course delivery.
The attractive female lecturer whos has
not taken any of my subjects seems more like an unwilling accomplice.
It's a very pathetic affair, suffice
to say I have to a large degree managed to vindicate myself and the male power brokers are very much in retreat. The
lecturer who threw out my project has not been teaching ( due also to similar omplaints by others) and the
Department of Education are looking into how courses are delivered at this college. I.e. unionised teachers
unwilling to do paper work.
However to save the college some "face" I am being obliged to re-present that
project.
I am going to be faced with friends of the original lecturer (two males ) and the attractive female
lecturer who probaly wishes she was never involved.
I just sensed that I should some how project a dash of
power but mainly power which comes from trust rather than arrogance.
I.e. not to scare them.
I know it
must be there somewhere but I would still be very grateful if you could spell out all those
abbreviations.
What are "nones"
Which SOE would you recomend me to order.?
If it was me in yourQuote:
Originally Posted by Eugene
position i would be wearing A314 x 2 dr on wrists and one on the chin: With 4 good sprays of LT sprayed on upper
outer chest area of shirt immediatelly before the interveiw if possable to spray immediatelly before the gathering,
as the LT effects dont seem to have an enduring quality.
The
application of Alpha314 would help to reinforce your status as a worthhile and gentlemanly like individual, and is
an excellent product to have on hand or in your pheromone stash erum repository.
Concerning Scent of Eros, females always seem to be receptive to its influence i have found from
10" upward starts to elicit favourable reactions for me, or between 1/2 and 1 full gel/pkt for lasting first
impression, can also be used with fresh application of LT for a dynamic result.
Plz if you may keep us informed on the issue with respect. :thumbsup:
Check out the phero library top right ofQuote:
Originally Posted by Eugene
page.
simply put: 'none or none or it's full name androstenone, is the powerfull "male" pheromone that signals
you are da man! think bad boy vibes the woman love and gets you into fights with the wrong crowd.
Products like
NPA , Primal Instinct , Alpha 7 use this as a main ingredient. You don't want to use this in an important meeting
without knowing exactly what reactions you will get. I can use 1 dab , others can use 3 drops without
overdosing.
SOE , go for the unscented as won't clash with your cologne of choice.
Most people report
that 8-12 inches rolled on will do the trick.
Good luck with the presentation!
:cheers:
Hey guys, I really appreciate all the help and support. Thanks. I will be ordering SOE and Alpha314 soon and keep
you all updated...
BTW i am not able to find any detailed ingriedient info on Alpha314 ...
can anyone
tell me what it contains if this is NOT a none product?
Here's a bit of info on alpha314
stolen from somewhere else:
You get 23.8mcg (micrograms) of 9 human pheromones in each drop of Alpha A314. There
are 6,667 micrograms of pheromones total per 10ml bottle, and 10,000 mcg in the 15ml sized bottle. It's a highly
potent product, you really don't want more than this.
A314 does contain a small amount of androstenone in a
propriety and carefully balanced ratio to the other 8 pheromones. A314 has not been shown to give the negative
effects of androstenone that some competitor's products have. In fact, many have found that they can use A314 to
decrease the negatives of other products, and increase the positives.
Okay, ummm... so bringing
the thread back to Liquid Trust...
Any other evaluations, either thumbs up or thumbs down, are welcome. Please
do report in if you are an LT user.
In the meantime I ordered some to check it out. Curiosity got the better of
me.
-CAt
Never saw any results from it.
Went through a whole bottle. Nothing
same as bel.....
Like you I was
curious, but of all the products I've tried this is one that just didn't seem to do anything for me. (even
following others suggestions on amount and application points yealded no results)
Hey Bel,Quote:
Originally Posted by belgareth
Did you ever try to see if it affects you directly, by putting a drop right under your nose as others have
suggested?
-CAt
As i have postedQuote:
Originally Posted by CAtriathlete
previously i have had results with LT although not having any major consistant reports to
mention.
Except on the one day i did really need it to work i was lucky enough for it to come to the party
on the occasion. \o/
But now that you have bought it to my attention i am going downstairs to my garage refrigerator
and unwrap the LT take out the sprayhead and slop a good dribble of the stuff on my top lip just prior to bedtime,
and will also apply some when my next female dinner guest arrives on the weekend.
Well i did apply a good dribble ofQuote:
Originally Posted by terry0400-40
the LT to my top lip before bed and i did have some strange erotic dreams involving female persons, not my usual
erotic type dream but the whole character and dimensions different than usual.
I will investigate this further i may even use the remaining 10 mls up so i can hopefully post a
result up for the forum. :cheers:
Thanks Terry!Quote:
Originally Posted by terry0400-40
We can always count on you to help experiment and report your
results. You are a scientist and a gentleman.
-CAt
I received my LT about a
week ago and have been using it every day, either alone or with different combos.
So far I would have to say:
big dud. I haven't noticed any difference in the behavior of people around me. I've worn it in business situations
as well as out dancing a few times. I use at least 6 sprays each time, much more than the recommend dose, just to
make sure I'm wearing enough.
I also tried putting a big drop under my nose to see if I could feel any effects,
and other than getting light headed for about a minute as all of the alcohol evaporated into my lungs, I didn't
notice anything much.
And this comes from a guy who is subject to placebo effects. Usually if I'm looking for
something I can find it.
I will keep trying it out, but I'm doubtful.
Any thoughts or suggestions out
there?
-CAt
I think I had
mentioned my experiences with this product albeit briefly. Regarding the issues with the college...Well, I used LT
during all meetings and negotiations with the college administration. Now you have to understand this by no means is
a scientific analysis but in the ended with my credibility greater than the lecturer.
I will qualify that by
saying that I had fairy good case and plenty of documentation. Also the lecturer having had previous
complaints.
So who knows, was it LT that did it...?
I can say that I also use LT at work with
especially when I need my manager's help or negotiations.
It's too bad I am lead to beleive the effects
evaporate so quickly.
I guess the only way to know for sure if LT is effective is to do a proper double
blind test.
I have just ordered Alpha 314 intending to use it with LT on the day I represent my project. I
also ordered a bottle of unscented SOE. Would anyone recommend using a triple combination for this important
presentation..? i.e. SOE, LT and A314..
Sounds pretty much ok, and the addition of the LT can not do anyQuote:
Originally Posted by Eugene
harm.
Only i
would not overshadow the Anone component of the A314 by using an excessive amount of added
SOE.
So as
to keep the respected edge of the A314 intact, with a little of SOE friendly vibe displayed.
And spray
your shirt sleeve cuffs with the LT with at least 2 sp on each, And as close to the actual presentation time as
possable, so as to keep it fresh and "Alive"
Regarding the use of LT, i am beginning to think that the emotional state with
respect to an individuals pheromone signature may have more influence to the LT application effects than has been
considered as a major possability regarding its success or lack of.
It is only a thought because the times that i
have been emotionally unstable and in need of some good maternal affection and understanding it has always seemed to
work well for me.
But when i have not had the genuine emotional need, then the LT has not shown me any
results.
Would be interesting to get the opinion some more learned persons than me on this subject.
:think:
opinions regarding SOE seem to be
mixed. Is SOE a none product or not? Maybe it would be safter just to use A314 and LT for the big day. The power
brokers on the panel are male. With the female towing the line. However over these guys is recently employed
registrar who is female. But would not be present on the panel. but will over see the whole thing.
I guess when I
meet her i will go heavy on nones but for the presentation....???
You cant go wrong with the A314 and LT combo, evenQuote:
Originally Posted by Eugene
several inches of SOE on the chin to swing you into their books. :thumbsup:
A314 and/orQuote:
Originally Posted by Eugene
LT never did much for me. SoE or Chikara or AQ would be, in my opinion, better products for that situation. I wear
AQ most often lately when I am going to be presenting to decision makers.