Weird
situation here. I got an old bottle of NPA from over a year back which still works fine but this new bottle I got
just 2 months ago seems to have no effect. Either that or it ODs in like 1 drop. Anyone else experience the same ?
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Weird
situation here. I got an old bottle of NPA from over a year back which still works fine but this new bottle I got
just 2 months ago seems to have no effect. Either that or it ODs in like 1 drop. Anyone else experience the same ?
Well i recently bought some
of the new NPA, The one in a black bottle with "pheromone additive" in red writing on the bottle and after a few
uses i haven't noticed anything. Though it could be because I'm pretty new to the whole pheromone thing. But i
make sure to use as little as possible so i don't OD i put a little drop on an earbud and very lightly press it on
my neck just once then cover it with my cologne, But after many tries i have got no response.
Oh No don't say that!..I have
just orderd some.
NPA is designed to be diluted
5:1. It's too strong and difficult to dose straight from the bottle. Even if you manage to get a perfectly dosed
tiny drop, the surface area covered is so small diffusion suffers.
Mix 5 parts cologne to 1 part NPA and spray
with a pocket atomizer and it works much better: dose is more adjustable before OD, the spray covers more skin for
better diffusion and the cologne molecules intermingle and carry the NPA to your vic's nose better. If you prefer
to dab or drop, consider TE: same formula but dosed for direct application.
Gegogi
What type of atomizer do you use to put out a very small spray?
I have been using Shoppers
Drug mart atomizers which are very good and don't leak and can easily be carried around but I think it sprays too
much NPA with even 1 spray. Could it be the sprays are too much?
Would you recommend any specific types of
atomizers for me, and where to buy them? I OD quite easily on NPA and I think the smaller the spray the better
since I can easily use more sprays if I need to up the dosage.
I'm looking for an atomizer that with 1 spray
may pump out at max the equivalent of a 1/4 pack of edge gel.
The reason I don't like the gels is that they
make me tune out to some degree through inhalation even when I use a small amount where the npa sprays don't, even
in large amounts.
The sephora atomizers I've seen hold just as much cologne as the Shoppers ones, I didn't
examine the spray head though...
The tiny ones they give as samples for cologne can't be what
you're referring to right? Those don't open to be reused and are strictly to sample colognes before
buying.
Any recommendations. I really like NPA spray better but have problems dosing.. I think its my
atomizer for sure...
HM
I think some users are applying too little NPA to receive
attention.
Have used much of the older NPA in the 5 ml
size and have received my NEW Boxed version mid May this year.
The box has its contents printed as 7ml and 0.24 oz
respectively and the bottle that is removed from the box has 5 ml printed on it.
My bottle did actually contain 5.7 ml in contents
measured with a medical glass vial, and that came out at 340 drops when measured in drops using a rubber bulb ended
glass pheromone dropper, this dropper does dispense a drop slightly larger in volume than the smaller standard Alter
Ego glass dropper of the same design as the one i am using.
Therefore in using this more precise method of
measuring drops rather than just tipping the bottle i did obtain the following
results.
0.48 mg = ( 480 mcg/ml ) divided by 60 dr /
ml = 8 mcg / dr
and this equales 4 mcg Androstenone
and 4 mcg of undisclosed enhancing pheromones.
I
repeated this measurement ten times using the medical glass vial to measure one correct size ml and the glass
pheromone dropper to measure the drops contained within each ml and the mean average came to 60 dr/ mL
I have been using 4 dr of NPA mixed with a few
sprays of good cologne for dispersion and it is working just fine, the actual pheromone content at this
concentration is a total of 32 mcg and therefore 16 mcg will be Androstenone and the other 16 mcg will be unknown
secret enhancing pheromones.
Men younger than my 58
years could go for 3 drops and that would give 12 mcg Androstenone + secret 12
mcg
Even younger men could easily go for 2 full drops
which would give 8 mcg Androstenone + secret 8 mcg.
I
would also like to add that the advice posted by Gegogi is valuable and correct in explaining the dispersion factor
involved, because even one or two drops applied directly and spread upon the skin surface is not going to cover a
large enough surface area to offer optimal results and it takes dilution at 5 to 1 with cologne to be able to
achieve a decent coverage factor and i will just add that in the past i have read posts of users obtaining excellent
NPA results when applying 3 and even 4 drops.
Quote:
Originally Posted by terry0400-40
Terry are you saying the NEW NPA boxed version is so much more diluted
than the older version that most people who mix it will cologne in sephora atomizer and now spray at minimum 1 times
will NOT OD?
:thumbsup:
HM
Ha ha oops sorry if i miss led you but the new boxedQuote:
Originally Posted by HornyMan
NPA is exactly the same concentration as it always has been, and it it just as effective as
ever.
I was just explaining that one single drop of
NPA measured out by a standard glass rubber bulb ended pheromone dropper contains only 4 mcg of Androstenone and
also 4 mcg of unknown pheromones for a total of 8 mcg pheromone content.
I choose to use the above mentioned dropper method of application delivery
because i find it so much more precise than tipping a drop straight from the NPA bottle.
However if one were to calculate the pheromone content of a single drop
taken from the inverted NPA bottle it would probably not correspond with the pheromone weight i have calculated with
respect to the glass pheromone dropper that i base my calculations on.
When i hear of individuals applying pin head amounts of NPA and then
mentioning that the product is not working it is obvious to me that the amount of Androstenone contained in these
application amounts is insignificent.
Like for
example take 1/4 of a drop, this would contain 1 mcg Androstenone plus 1 mcg of secret steering
pheromones.
Just as a comparison the average
application of Alter Ego is between 1 and 3 drops, the small drop dispenser that comes with this product will
dispense for one drop
Androstenone 3.33 mcg +
Androstenol 2.5 mcg + Androsterone 1.66 mcg for a total drop content of 7.5 mcg.
And one drop of AE from my standard glass pheromone dropper gives
Androstenone 4 mcg + Androstenol 3 mcg + Androsterone 2 mcg. for a total drop content of 9
mcg.
I have just received a report back from a
friend in Europe he is in the mid 20's and he is having really good result with a mix of 2 dr AE + 2 dr NPA.
I am a little older and i receive some rather good
attraction results by mixing NPA x 4 drops into 4 sprays of decent cologne, with this i also have the occasional
horror hit but these mostly from big butch control freak type of girls, yep these girls usually hate me at first
whiff :rasp:
Terry I like that avatar.The new
boxed npa is my next phero to buy I was just wondering if it was recommended for a person like myself.
Sure its ok from what i recall you are around 22 thereforeQuote:
Originally Posted by Crash
you could like make a small test mix up like say at the strength of 1/2 a drop per application to start your
observations.
Just extract 10 drops and insert them
into a small spray atomiser or a 5 ml to go sprayer and then add 20 sprays of cologne screw it up shake it a little
and then its good to go, and one spray will give you about 1/2 a drop of NPA each time, see how it goes and add an
extra spray if necessary as two sprays will give you a drops worth of NPA.
The logic behind this is that the 10 drops NPA is diluted with 20 sprays of
cologne, and one spray of cologne averages out at around 5 drops so in effect this mix is NPA at 10 dr and Cologne
at 100 dr which equates to a ratio of 1 : 10 which is double the recommended dilution rate for NPA, the 5 ml To Go
spray bottle volume averages out at 5.3 drops per spray and therefore this will give you a total of around 20 full
sprays so in effect one spray will give you 1/2 drop NPA and around 4.8 dr cologne which will in fact be capable of
dispersing the NPA over a decent coverage area so as to be effective in its mode of diffusion.
Whenever possable if you do not have it is to
purchase several pipettes or a standard glass rubber ended pheromone dropper ( or two ) and using these methods of
phero extraction you will achieve more precise measurements over that what is dispensed by the dribble dropper top
of the NPA stopper.
Also by posessing a reliable
measuring container or a medical syringe you can proceed to measure your pheromone products by the milligram and
then actually count the drops contained in each milligram and then divide the total weight per milligram by the
number of drops per milligram and thus can get a reliable estimate of the pheromone weight in micrograms per drop of
pheromone....
Do not start mixing too large
quantity of NPA into test mixes as you may easily waste product on non productive test mixes, that is why i
suggested only 10 drops to start with in the above mentioned test mix suggestion.
Once you become familiar with a product regarding appropriate application
and dilution amounts and also reliable measuring devices then it is a whole lot safer to formulate mixes using more
quantity of your valuable pheromone products.
Even
now after many years of mixing whenever i remove the stopper from a pheromone product i will place the bottle in a
small flat bottomed glass dish before i go extracting drops by means of a pipette or dropper this prevents wastage
in the case of a tip over,
It also is advisable to
secure the smaller spray bottle you are making your mix up in.
Replace the caps securely back on pheromone bottles
and store them away from sunlight.
I use the Sephora Silver Bullet
atomizer. Nice fine mist and less volume than the sprayer on TE and AD 30ml products.
Hi Gegogi (or anyone
else),
I found an atomizer called "SEPHORA COLLECTION Fragrance Atomizer". Its silver and says it holds
0.15 oz. Is that the silver bullet one your talking about?
Also, my colognes top doesn't come off, so
can't really do drops from it. The Sephora atomizer appears from the online pictures to have a funnel with it. Is
the opening big enough in the Atomizer to spray directly into it?
Reason I ask is because I would think using a
funnel to get spray into a bottle would be pretty ineffective.
Thanks for any help.