ohhh alright, that makes
sence. thx
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ohhh alright, that makes
sence. thx
Big Bump!
Okay, I ordered my Oud sampler from Oriscent on Thursday and it arrived today (Sat) in CA. What
service!
"Hmmm... tiny little vials... let's open up this one that says "China Sweet"... whoa! harsh smell-- a
bit like turpentine... let me wipe this little dipstick across my wrist--- wow! hmm... very earthy odor, changing by
the minute-- now it reminds me of hash oil I haven't smelled in 20 years-- I can't resist whiffing it a lot--
it's so primal and familiar, yet like nothing I've ever smelled before... I'm getting light headed... better sit
down"
I can see how this might make the ultimate all-natural cover scent... I can't wait to get out in public
and try it with some A7-- when I can walk straight again!
I'll keep you posted...
-CAt
So now I've been using Oud
every day for a few days.
This stuff is amazing. I'm hooked. I can't believe how the scent evolves during the
day on my skin.
And I can't imagine a more perfect cover for mones. The way it blends with unscented A7, SOE,
and A1 is perfect.
Thanks you guys!!!
-CAt
Glad you like it. Oud isn't to
everybody's taste. Look back through the thread, there is a link for Ham Furl. He's a good resource for a wide
variety at decent prices. Good guy to deal with.
Thanks Bel!
I already
found Ham Firl in the thread and have been in contact with him.
I must admit that of the Oriscent samplers I
like ones that are more sweet and floral (Sweet China & Borneo Green) than Assam Organic which smells way too much
like a barnyard to me. I can't get past the extreme musky, almost fecal quality. Perhaps over time I will acquire a
taste for the more musky varieties (like over time I went from a white wine guy to only Cabs and Zins), but for now
I think I will stick with the sweeter Ouds.
What can you recommend-- Ham Firl provides little in the way of
scent notes, though for sweeter Ouds he suggested Kalimantan, Vietnamese, and Burmese Minchina. Which
of these have you tried? What do you think?
And have you tried the Borneo 3000 at Oriscent?
Your scenting
notes would be appreciated.
Best,
CAt
I'm the last person to ask for
information about scenting notes, being very poor at describing them. QT will give you far better information than I
can. I do agree about the Assam Organic, though. No, I haven't tried the Borneo 3000.
My personal taste ranges
more towards the musky but away from the fecal/barnyard smell. In general the darker the oil the muskier the scent.
I'm older, so that might explain the taste difference. Sweet ones just don't do it for me so my questions have all
been directed that way.
Thanks again Bel,
I'll
see if I can get more scenting notes from Ham Firl. If any of the rest of you have recommendations for sweeter
varieties of Oud oils, please let me know. And if anyone has tried the Borneo 3000 from Oriscent, please let me
know.
Best,
CAt
Just bought some Borneo... I'll
let you know after I get it in. I'm told by the guy at Oriscent that it's the shit from an aphrodisiac
standpoint... we'll see. Also, bought some of this musk he has. He told me its the real deal... again,
aphrodisiac... we'll see... obviously he's in it for the cash... but I'll share my experience when I get this
stuff.
I've been buying musk from
another guy and using it with Oud. Makes a nice combo.
Thanks jpidre,
I gave
in and ordered a sample of the Borneo 3000 myself. I'll be very interested to compare notes with you!
-CAt
oh my, i have forgotten all
about these!! i was actually getting ready to buy this back in the day for somereason i forgot all about it. i think
im going to buy some from oriscent (i think i still have the link saved up.
can someone tell me (or pm me) a
link of where i migh get some burmess ones i really like to try it seeing as how i am burmess and lived there up
untill i was around 10.
also can someone tell me or pm me what ham firl is?
lol hope this dosn't turn into
another addiction for me.
dose anyone ever dilude it with like water or something? to save money and make it
last longer or will it compramise the quality of the product?
Ham furl is a contact I buy most of my Oud from. He sells a wide
variety of good quality products in smaller quantities. He also has an Ebay store: QT's Store. Do a search on Ebay
for Aloeswood and you'll find him.
Yes, you can dilute oud with oils but not water. A common base to mix with
oud is cedar or sandalwood. That's called an Attar. I don't like the diluted much and you need so little oud that
it really isn't expensive.
Slickracer--
Take it from me: don't buy these unless you are ready for another expensive addiction. This stuff is amazing...
and already breaking my bank account.
I totally agree with Bel-- no need to dilute it. You can use the bottle's
dipstick to apply a tiny amount that goes a long way.
Let us know when you try them and what you think!
-CAt
I've
been experimenting with ouds the last couple of days. I think Ham Firl's Royal Oud is very similar to Oriscent's
Assam. These are the only ones I've tried to this point, and are the darker ones.
It definitely starts in
ye olde barnyard, with all the glorious remains left on the ground. I even hesitated before putting it on my skin
thinking "do I want to smell like that?". It basically stinks.
Took the plunge and was very glad. It did
take a while (an hour) for it to settle, and I'd advise against rubbing it on and dashing out to the Ritz, unless
you'd prefer the servant's entrance, to which the doorman would certainly usher you as he pinched his nose and
thought wistfully of lavender.
This stuff is powerful, as in The King. It continually changes as others have
noted. What starts out in the bottle as the devil's curse sweetens and mellows into something which seems so
darned FAMILIAR, but then again not at all familiar because its so exotic smelling. Sandalwood on steroids? It
almost defies description.
It sweetens to be sure, but does not lose its strong earthy base. Its not at all
floral or spicy or woodsy, but very warm and inviting. My nose is trying to come up with words to describe it. It
definitely gets better the more it ages on my skin.
Definitely not for everyone, but I like it, and can't
wait to experiment with the other varieties. I do get a calming effect too BTW.
Late in the day I put a drop
of A1 on my inner elbow with a little oud. Several hours later it has a sweet pleasant musky rutting smell, and I
envision the right woman chewing on my arm while she's disrobing. Sorry, just thinking positive thoughts
here.
Let you know when I try the others,
Greg
Hey Gents,
I received
sample bottle of Borneo 3000 today. Sweet, but not too. Very complex, musky-earthy, with honey overtones. And not so
turpentine right out of the bottle as any others.
I swabbed a bit on my wrists and rubbed. Then 2 drops of A1
rubbed between my forearms. 10" SOE across my upper chest. Finally, 1 drop of A7 split on my fingers and then rubbed
on the edge of my armpits. Headed over to visit the wonderful woman I'm dating, who loves complex odors (and has
started asking me not to shower before we get together!!).
I had her smell my wrists and her eyes rolled into
the back of her head. That's a definite vote of approval for the Borneo 3000. (She kept smelling my armpits too,
saying she loves my body odor. I feel like I'm cheating a bit and will eventually need to tell her about the mones
if we get more serious.)
I don't kiss and tell, but let me simply share that it was otherwordly "love in the
afternoon"--very animal.
Thanks Guys!
-CAt
Had a similar experience this
past weekend. Covered mones with oud and the unique scent opened the door. She loved it.
I used the Vietnamese
oud from Ham Firl. Much lighter and sweeter than his Royal, and Oriscent's Assam. Perhaps too sweet for my
taste.
Complexity in these oils is interesting. They seem to have a contrast, like a flower laying in freshly
turned soil. The flower attracts, and the soil welcomes you to the neighborhood.
ohhh man, the more i
read.....
hmm so it seems lighter ones are more floral and darker ones are earthy.
ever though about wearing
both at once? to balance them out?
Don't get me wrong:
they ALL have an earthy foundation. That is the nature of Oud. We are talking about subtle but very significant
differences in the other scent notes. And in fact, some of the Ouds have been blended already to balance them out.
I would recommend that anyone who is getting started to buy the sampler from Oriscent. It is a relatively
inexpensive way to sample a range of high quality Ouds.
Best,
-CAt
CAt, does Oriscent blend their ouds? I know Ham Firl does not, and sells the pure oil from
whatever country. It'd be interesting to know about Oriscent's practices.
BTW, did you get an email from
Oriscent about the Kyara?
"The rarest type of agarwood,
Kyara is the most expensive aromatic substance on earth. A single gram of authentic green kyara
retails for $395. A solid piece weighing a kilogram or more would be in the millions. Ounce for ounce, kyara is
eighteen times more expensive than gold. Out of all things precious that are bought and sold, only the
largest, most precious diamonds command a price as high as genuine kyara agarwood"
In contrast, the least
expensive way to try oud is to go on eBay and do a search for Aloeswood. You'll find Ham Firl there and he sells
single samples for as little as $12US post included. Of course at that price you don't get much, but enough to try
it many times, and its a good introduction. Try the lighter ones first if you're concerned about the strong earth
scent. But really, the stronger dark oils do mellow nicely and become pleasantly sweet in time. The initial scent
bears no resemblence whatsoever to the "wearing" scent.
Another thing to try is mixing or layering
different oils. This is going to be my next favorite experiment, after mones of course. I've ordered some pure
sandalwood and chinese musk (thanks belgareth) and can't wait to try them out both alone and layered with
oud.
And I plan to take out a second mortgage on my kids when Pheros becomes available. Just kidding, I don't
have any children... too bad.
Have fun!
Greg
Hey Greg,
I spoke to
the owner of Oriscent (nice guy) to find out more about which of his Ouds would suit me best. I told him how much I
liked the honey scent in Sweet China, and he said that the sweetness comes from a small amount of Borneo 3000 he
blended into it-- otherwise the China would be too barnyard. So, some Oriscent Ouds are single source and some are
blended.
I got the email on the Kyara, and it sounds tempting, but I've already taken out a second mortgage for
Ouds and mones, and I do have kids I need to put through college soon.
I think you should buy some just to let
us all know how yummy it really is!
In any case, do let me know how the latering experiements go. I'm
interested in the sandalwood myself.
Best,
CAt
Ha! You're very
generous with MY money CAt! Too rich for me, and I've already spent too much on EOs at this point. I've gotten
hooked there too, sigh...
The layering has taken on a life of its own and I love it. I need to start taking
notes, but my experiments are very unscientific at this point.
Tonight I tried a swab of Oud, a swab of Mysore
Sandalwood and a swab of Lavender Maillette, all high quality oils. I keep smelling my wrist and arm and am amazed.
Its a whole new world, and coupled with the mones I don't know who could resist.
Takes some time though, but
I figure its worth it.
Keep us posted on your experiments too. I have A314 but have not tried it, wondering if
you have. Just bought Chikara scented, should have gotten the unscented, I dislike the smell.
Take care,
Greg
Hey Greg,
The layering
sounds interesting. I am getting ready to order some Sandalwood oil from Ham Firl. Did you get the regular Mysore or
the Double Super Mysore? How do you like it?
I have not yet tried A314 but have started becoming curious about
it. I'll need to figure out where it fits in with my current use of A7, A1, and SOE. I welcome any ideas about
combining these with A314.
-CAt
I got his 100% CO2 Wild
Mysore. I like it a lot, and it seems fresher, greener than the other Sandals I have. I've been reading that CO2
extracts have a different effect on the resulting oil from, say steam distilled. No matter what you get from H-F
you'll like it.
I have a function this weekend, and a date. Think I'll try the A314 at least once. Maybe see
what it does with SoE and leave out the A1.
Greg
Hey Greg,
I got some of the CO2
Mysore this week. It really is very "green". My new g/f and I both think it smells like fresh sawdust--not so
pleasant. It mellows a bit after an hour or two, but I suspect I would like the steam distillation stuff much
better. This does blend fairly well with Oud, though.
How are the experiments with A314 coming along?
-CAt
It seems like the Royal Oud or some Cambodian may be just the thing to compliment my NPA or even my
Alpha7 unscented.
Cant wait to splash a bit on, Alpha7, that is as havn't used it for awhile, and well, like i am
in the mood for love :rasp:
Just out of curiosity i wonder if the Asian women like the Oud ?
My g/f loves when I wear
Oud. Whenever I wear a dab on my wrist, she continually grabs it to draw it close to her nose and take in big
whiffs. Little does she know that there is A7 and A1 lurking within the Oud scent.
-CAt