Areas for appropriate responses.
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Originally Posted by
tenaciousBLADE
Science is great and it gives the answers we were looking for, but
sometimes it helps to add an explenation that is a bit more readable by people who are somewhat less experienced
with the scientific terms. An explenation such as the simple "Yes!" you just gave.
People should be free to give
their own opinions based on their experience - Science is great, but although it strives to - it is not yet complete
:p
Please don't quit giving your own experience. Specially being it a more profound one in scientific terms
;)
The fact that other people post their own ideas & views doesn't take back from your replies nor theirs'...
Especially taking into account that your product is one of my 3 top favorites :thumbsup:
Anyway what I'm trying to
say is: It wasn't that discussion took it to individual opinions, but rather that the science was put into a
too-sophisticated lenguage (at least in my standarts). That simple yes was - though quite a sad thing to hear - all
the answer I was lacking :D
Ive noticed that Essence of Alpha Male has ended
up in the Pheromone Discussion area, so we must therefore assume that is was purposefully placed here to get
attention and feedback comments from all or anyone wishing to contribute their own input regarding the material
posted up as the thread starter.
It would be obvious that if a poster did not wish to communicate in a general and normal
manner with other individuals on the forum with respect to their presentations of opinions posted then they would
have the option of keeping their statements confined to another more suitable area that may facilitate their needs
more adequately.
So it is thankfully appreciated that the God of science has thrown us a crumb of scientific
material, that hopefully we may digest.
And therefore become wise and gain an understanding of the subject which is of
an interest, and also a possable benefit to most of us. :trout: :think:
A Mammoth Task in the Creation of SOE.
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Originally Posted by
jvkohl
Those who have followed my work may wish to note the involvement of the LH
receptor. Those who have not can now note that my first presentation to a scientific forum (in 1992) was: LH: the
link between sex and the sense of smell?
http://stke.sciencemag.org/cgi/conte...97/tw272?ct=ct
James V.
Kohl
Author/Creator: The Scent of Eros (SoE)
I being an uducated person can
hardly begin to imagion the Intelligence requirement that must have gone in to the creation of Scent of
Eros.
I
would say it must have been a mammoth task in just being able to convince say Stone Labs for example, or whoever, to
go so far out on a limb and actually combine two completly unknown pheromones like Androstenol and Androsterone at a
80% - 20% ratio.
Then the actual mind draining task of finding sutch a beautifull name to compliment the product is
i feel worthy of great applause.
But the proof of the pudding is in the eating, and the society of this great planet Earth has
indeed been blessed by the exceeding brilliance of this great creator.
In conclusion i can only add that we are so
privileged to actually have a being of this magnificient magnitude in our prescence and it is only natural to want
to reach out and touch the hem of his garment in sweet communion.... :box: :box: :box:
Acceptance is the bridge between us. Let
us all help build it for one another.
First thing's first...
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Originally Posted by
Mtnjim:
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Originally Posted by
jvkohl
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When I continue to discuss the science, people (see terry0400-40) make
comments that I find offensive: "In conclusion i can only add that we are so privileged to actually have a being of
this magnificient magnitude in our prescence and it is only natural to want to reach out and touch the hem of his
garment in sweet communion...."
James, I hate to mention this, but, I think Terry was giving you a
complement, in his own odd way.:think:
I totally agree. In fact I based my own
reply...
on that
exact notion. So jvkohl... take it easy :wub: . I'm pretty sure we all here have the fullest respect for
your input. I know I do... furthermore, I look forward to it everytime :thumbsup:
Second...
Science,
at leat such high level science as how pheromones work (and make no mistake of it: I honestly view this type of
science as a very high-level one), is not reachable for anyone and takes a lot of effort to learn & study (you
should know :) ). Some people cannot afford the time\money or patience to actually go and study that science
thoroughly. You said:
Some peoples' way of learning about science
such as this particular one, is to read and post in forums such as this. I'm sure you can understand that, right?
:o
Including myself in that group of people, i can say, that we do learn alot from your posts... Yet it may
take some of us some time to realize or fully understand what your answers mean exactly; considering that we do not
have the jargon nor the experience with such complexed and sometimes never-before-heared (through our ears at least)
scientific lingo.
I can only speak for myself, however I don't think anyone here had any intension of insulting
you in any way :o
Granted, sometimes you might sound\seem\feel a little "dismissive and self-righteous"...
because it seems as if you only reply to people with the scentific background... as if the lot of us who hasn't
learned on that specific field has no right to talk with you or earn your respect\experience\answers. But my guess
is that you might think of our replies in the same manner sometimes... and that the fact that we reply in a lingo
that is a bit weak may feel insulting to you. Well please take these next few words not as an insult, but as a
compliment... `coz that is honestly the way I mean them:
Some of us venture our opinions out of curiosity. Science
is not defenent and that is exactly the reason it still exists as a developping proccess... to answer the questions
it raises up, and fill the curiosity of human nature. I can't speak for others yet I'm pretty sure most here would
agree with me (no offense anyone)... I am curious and when I don't understand an answer I keep on asking the
question and try to explain my question a bit more to the detail. The answer wasn't clear to me... up until the
very point you said "Yes". In no way should it be offensieve to you that a simple word was needed.
What I'm
trying to say, jvkohl, is simply (and sincerely):
Don't be offended by our ignorance. Just try to help us
through it instead :D
`Coz honestly... You're one of the most experienced people on the forums, and as such -
you're one we can learn from; but for that to happen you have to let us. So why threat to quit posting, when you
can just teach us some valuable knowledge about your field insted? :rolleyes:
Well, I trully hope I got at
least SOME of the situation right and that my words helped in some way what so ever. `Coz otherwise I've just made
a big fool of myself :run:
JV, people have made some respectable efforts with their words to try and make you
understand that we mean no harm. Please... make that worthwhile and keep on posting your knowledge mate :o
It's
all for a good edjucative pupose :thumbsup:
Read the whole long thread... Ineresting
approaches there.
Well I've written a long reply, but decided not to post it after all:think:
JVkohl, take it easy. We're all individuals and as far as I know we're not against you, and we appritiate
your cotribute to the forums.
You want to threaten to quit giving your opinions - feel free it's your own choice
(I'd rather you won't but I'll fight for your right to do so).
But by all means - let everybody else say
theirs'. Nobody's here to hurt you :o
Misunderstandings do happen - but they can be fixed by a simple, polite
explenation. You did such explaning yourself on this thread for example, by saying "Yes". No need to get
offended:angel:
WELL hmmmm wow whats goin on
IMHO The Man JVK is an individual who is plain and simply who and what he is, I
personally dont doubt his credability especially now that i have been brought to focus on the Gentleman in the last
few weeks,
He has his own unique and individual style as a human product of his science and all factors
considered he is contributing to the forum and imparting wisdom and reports as well as his own opinions and
studies,
and i am thankful that he is hanging around and just being who he is and thats all anyone can really
do.
Maby we
have had enough of disecting and scrutenising the poor guy.
I recon we all should reconsile our
differences and move on whilst life is short and sweet.
I for one will try and not be sutch a shit
stirrer, And seeing as i am one of the least amoungst yous all will save my venom for any spammers that creep on to
the forum BLAM BLAM to our real Enemies :rasp:
Hard Science and Soft Science
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Originally Posted by
terry0400-40
He has his own unique and individual style as a human product of his science and all
factors considered he is contributing to the forum and imparting wisdom and reports as well as his own opinions and
studies
Maby we have had enough of disecting and scrutenising the poor guy.
Well said! My
style is best suited for discussing facts, and usually this is with other "hard" scientists. Some have an ego that
limits discussion of their opinions; most do not. But no researcher I know has an ego that limits their discussion
of "hard" scientific facts, as I have recently been asked to do in conjunction with an award. (Award notice
below):
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James V. Kohl has been selected to receive the Ira and Harriet Reiss Theory Award for 2007 from
the Foundation for the Scientific Study of Sexuality (FSSS). The award is given annually for the best social science
article, chapter, or book published in the previous year in which theoretical explanations of human sexual attitudes
and behaviors are developed. Kohl's review: "The Mind's Eyes: Human Pheromones, Neuroscience, and Male Sexual
Preferences" was published in the Journal of Psychology & Human Sexuality, 18(4): 313-369, and concurrently
published as a book chapter in the "Handbook of the Evolution of Human Sexuality." In conjunction with the award,
Kohl is an invited plenary session speaker at the annual meeting of the Society for the Scientific Study of
Sexuality (SSSS) in November, 2007, which will be held in Indianapolis, Indiana.
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Some of you know about
the award I received for my 2001 invited review that linked neuroscience and ethology. This latest award crosses
from neuroscientific ("hard") science into social ("soft") science, and helps to extend my sphere of influence to
the soft sciences. Nevertheless, I have never pretended to understand much about the soft sciences.
James V.
Kohl
author/creator: The Scent of Eros