View Full Version : Newbie's First Day Impression of WAGG
InternationalPlayboy
03-16-2004, 05:23 PM
Got my Wednesday special of WAGG in the mail last night and tried it out at work this morning. I
applied two or three drops to the wrists and rubbed them together. Meant to only use one drop but at least two came
out before I could stop it. Since the label says to apply it to clothing, I put another drop on my pant leg.
(Didn\'t want to take the chance of staining my shirt.)
I don\'t know about being a \"Great Guy,\" but I
did feel pretty good. My attitude at work has been at an all time low these last few weeks and I\'ve had a bit of
contempt for certain people there.
None of that today. No anger or depression. I was more outgoing than I have
been in quite awhile. Even started a conversation with one of the people I\'m a bit disgusted with. Since he
started working for my company, I\'ve wondered if he was the same person who I had mutual friends with in high
school. Turns out he is and once he realized he used to know me, he got really talkative, a bit more than I wanted.
Kind of disappointed now he is who I thought he was. In high school he was kind of cool and now I can\'t hold as
much contempt towards him. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
Only female interaction was in the
hallway when I was picking up a box of cable. I\'m an electronic technician and do some cable installation. I was
kind of sweaty and my shirt was partially untucked.This woman who I\'m attracted to came out of her office.
She\'s out of my league and attached, lives with a Special Forces soldier and is considered by many as kind of a
b!tch. I usually say \"hi\" when we pass. Today, the inflection in her voice sounded a little friendlier when she
returned the greeting.
Now all of this could be placebo affect, but it does make me think I made a good
investment. As for feeling sleepy, I work 10 hour days, 12 with lunch and the drive and only get about 6 hours of
sleep on work nights. I get sleepy most every afternoon and did so today, so I can\'t judge whether it was the
WAGG or just my usual fatigue.
This weekend, I thought of mixing the WAGG with the half an open package of SOEg I
have. But reading pasts threads, this doesn\'t sound like a good idea. I haven\'t found the original discussion
on this mix yet. What exactly are the perceived problems with this combination?
bigdog
03-16-2004, 05:27 PM
WAGG & SOE are similar products. SOE has nol and WAGG ?. The combo doesn\'t work well. I get
tired and down on myself when using it. Others around me get headaches.
Gossamer_2701
03-16-2004, 05:33 PM
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What exactly are the perceived
problems with this combination?
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I believe a few people
reported getting \'depressed\' when mixing SOE and WAGG, but I have done this without any adverse effects. I
don\'t recall which threads discuss this, but for some reason I believe Franki was one of the ones that got
depressed, so maybe you could send him a PM.
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Goss
Sagacious1420
03-16-2004, 07:39 PM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
WAGG & SOE are similar
products.
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">Not sure that I totally agree w/ that statement. It may be
okay to say that they can have a similar effect of providing a certain level of comfort to a mix.
IMHO, SOE
relaxes ppl and they are more chatty, but WAGG seems to encourage ppl to divulge very personal info...like
confessions, maybe.
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SOE has nol and WAGG
?.
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">SOE contains nol and rone. WAGG contains previously unutilized
pheros
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The combo doesn\'t work well. I get
tired and down on myself when using it. Others around me get headaches.
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class=\"post\">I\'m curious...how much SOE did you use. Given the fact that nol has a relaxing effect and
induces headaches at high dosages, my initial impression is that you ODed on SOE. I\'ve never had SOE+WAGG make
me feel down on myself, but that\'s just me.
Sexyredhead
03-16-2004, 07:44 PM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font
class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
WAGG & SOE are similar products.
<hr /></blockquote><font
class=\"post\">Not sure that I totally agree w/ that statement. It may be okay to say that they can have a
similar effect of providing a certain level of comfort to a mix.
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class=\"post\">
I\'m not sure I agree either. I have not used WAGG personally, but IIRC, the women who
beta-tested WAGG didn\'t see much reaction at all from it, except maybe Frenchie. That doesn\'t sound similar to
-nol.
I will have to dig up that thread and re-read it.
Sexyredhead
03-16-2004, 07:47 PM
A couple WAGG thread bump-ups:
http://www.server2.love-scent.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=women
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in=92531&Search=true#Post92538\")
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Sagacious1420
03-16-2004, 07:54 PM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font
class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
What exactly are the perceived problems with this combination?
<hr
/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
I believe a few people reported getting \'depressed\' when mixing SOE
and WAGG, but I have done this without any adverse effects. I don\'t recall which threads discuss this, but for
some reason I believe Franki was one of the ones that got depressed, so maybe you could send him a PM.
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Goss
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Goss-
I\'m curious about how much SOE and WAGG you\'ve been using. I also have found that SOE and WAGG can work
well together in the right proportion...or at least the proportion that\'s right for me. What I\'ve found from
my testing is that the closer you get to equal ratios of the two, the less effective the combo is. I have found
that a ratio of about 5 SOE:1 WAGG works best for me.
It\'s certainly possible that the combo doesn\'t work
well for some...not sure how much those ppl used or how much they tested the combo. It took me a while to figure out
what worked for me.
tounge
03-16-2004, 10:25 PM
Howdy Playboy. I really enjoy your clear, concise writing style. It is pleasure to read. And also quite
interesting.Having said that, I wish you the best of luck in your phermone endevors. However, don\'t be
surprised if you don\'t get the results you would like. I was wondering how you think you relate with women?
Particually, ones that you are attracted to. If you don\'t wish to answer this, I understand. Just trying to get a
bit more insight on you.
Gossamer_2701
03-17-2004, 05:37 AM
Hey Sag.... I\'ve been using using 1d WAGG split between my eyebrows and a 4\" swipe of SOE on the
inside of each wrist.
I think it may all come down to how much you apply and where you apply it.... keeping them
an arms length apart seemed to work for me from the start (as I had read of people getting depressed) so I never had
a reason to change my aplication points. Don\'t know how they would interact applied closer together.
InternationalPlayboy
03-17-2004, 08:03 AM
Thanks for the remarks tongue. Don\'t worry about me being disappointed about the results of
my pheromone experiments. I\'ve actually been using products like these (Andros) since around the mid 80\'s, so
I don\'t expect a miracle cure.
You asked about my views on how I relate to women, especially ones I\'m
attracted to. It seems that a lot of my relationships with women wind up in the LJBF category. As for attraction, it
seems the stronger it is towards a woman, the shyer I feel and the harder it is to break the ice. Once I get to know
someone a bit, there\'s no problem. When I mentioned that one woman was \"out of my league,\" I meant that if
buff, killing machine guys (Special Forces soldier) are the type she goes for, I\'m the opposite of that. A
somewhat shy electronics nerd.
That\'s why I like Realm, and think I\'m going to like WAGG and SOE. I\'m
looking for products to make me feel more comfortable about myself in social and work situations. Not that I
wouldn\'t like to have my bones jumped by a hot woman or two. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Products like NPA and Andros make me feel too self-conscious. And since I caught that guy trying to pick my
pocket at a club and he came back time and again, to confront me afterwards, I\'ve quit the Andros stuff
completely. You\'d think that if one got caught in a crime, one would want to disappear quickly. Not make a
spectacle of one\'s self. I can only return to the conclusion that the pheromones in the cologne I had on were
making him more aggressive.
I do plan to experiment a bit still with NPA and other products Bruce offers here. I
like the fact that you just use a drop or two of most of them and can then use a regular cologne to cover them.
I\'ve only recently received some of the SOE gel pack samples and just got a bottle of WAGG, so I haven\'t had a
chance of trying them in combination with NPA. Right now, I\'m trying them on their own to see what the effect
is.
Thanks everyone for the input to my posts so far.
bigdog
03-17-2004, 08:58 AM
Try The Edge instead IMO.
InternationalPlayboy
03-17-2004, 09:21 AM
Instead of...? NPA?
bigdog
03-17-2004, 09:30 AM
It seems you may be concerned about having too much none on. Edge comes in a bigger bottle and is
diluted. Harder to OD on Edge and get adverse effects IMO. I have OD on NPA a couple times but never using the Edge.
tounge
03-17-2004, 10:53 AM
Playboy,I don\'t have much time to respond. It sounds like you end up in the LJBF zone, because you
are afraid to make a sexual move. You say you are shy with women you re attracted to. That will get you nowhere.
You must conquer the fear of rejection. You sound like you have a lot going for you. Good vocational job and
backround. Good writer, and come off as very intelligent. You need to use your stengths and work on your social
weakness. Phermones may be of some help. Hey I gotta run, more later.
scentinel
03-17-2004, 11:15 AM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
You asked about my views on how I
relate to women, especially ones I\'m attracted to. It seems that a lot of my relationships with women wind up in
the LJBF category.
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
You remind me of myself. (Do you sometimes go
\"Oh crap, here we go again\" when someone tells you what a wonderful friend you are?)
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif I\'m really looking forward to seeing more of your posts, and
what works for you.
Greets!
Sexyredhead
03-17-2004, 11:23 AM
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</font><blockquote><font
class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
You asked about my views on how I relate to women, especially ones I\'m
attracted to. It seems that a lot of my relationships with women wind up in the LJBF category.
<hr
/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
You remind me of myself. (Do you sometimes go \"Oh crap, here we go
again\" when someone tells you what a wonderful friend you are?) /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I\'m really looking forward to seeing more of your posts, and what works for you.
Greets!
<hr
/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
Not to confuse things anymore than they already are, but there can be a
twist to the LJBF thing. Sometimes, if a girl is attracted to a guy but he never makes a move or leads her to think
he\'s also attracted to her as more than a friend, she will refer to him as \'such a good friend\' because
that\'s how she believes HE perceives their relationship. It doesn\'t always mean she\'s not interested.
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
scentinel
03-17-2004, 12:01 PM
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Not to confuse things anymore than they
already are, but there can be a twist to the LJBF thing. Sometimes, if a girl is attracted to a guy but he never
makes a move or leads her to think he\'s also attracted to her as more than a friend, she will refer to him as
\'such a good friend\' because that\'s how she believes HE perceives their relationship. It doesn\'t always
mean she\'s not interested. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
<hr /></blockquote><font
class=\"post\">
I\'ll give you a tip for dating me: be emancipated and make the first move. If I really like
you, I\'ll be mortally afraid of screwing up because I can\'t just alter your subroutines later.
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif (I\'ve loosened up quite a bit now, but I really used to be
like this. Years ago, I was convinced that, if I made that first move, I\'d be forever branded as the loser who
was stuk up enough to ask a beautiful girl, and would forever have to carry the burden of rejection. Or something
like that. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif )
InternationalPlayboy
03-28-2004, 02:17 PM
The best response I\'ve gotten to anything since I started getting interested in mones again was
Thursday, when my boss treated me to lunch. I consider the WAGG had an influence on this as he was celebrating the
fact that I found the problem in the equipment I was repairing. It took me all week to find something I felt should
have fixed in a day. Especially since it took me almost a day to identify a blown fuse. Then at the end of the day,
I shut it down as I felt it wasn\'t operating safely enough without supervision to leave it running all weekend.
(It\'s a UPS system - uninterruptable power supply. Not a desktop system but one that takes up two small
buildings. One houses the electronics and the other houses the battery bank. The batteries were charging and
emmitting hydrogen, setting off alarms. As hydrogen\'s highly explosive, I didn\'t feel right leaving the thing
alone since I didn\'t know how much longer they would continue to charge.)
Anyway,other than the lunch
treat, it\'s been pretty disappointing for the mone experiments. Got some TE last week and did a spray and a half
on Friday (I have three day weekends) and another spray today. Went to our local \"mall\" (you can walk through it
in about 60 seconds), two bookstores and a couple of other stores. Not many targets to choose from. Women with their
kids, teenage girls and couples. In fact, I don\'t think I saw anyone in my age group (44 years old). This town
supposedly has a population of over 77,000 people but you sure can\'t tell. Well, in the winter, it\'s congested
with senior citizen \"snowbirds\" and in the summer, it\'s too hot to do anything.
I need to move to
Phoenix or San Diego. The Fashion Valley mall in San Diego is my favorite place for girl watching. But the cost of
living is so high there. Phoenix has a lot to offer in the arts and entertainment categories, but it\'s just as
hot as the area in Arizona where I live.
Haven\'t given up yet, and am still looking forward to the April
1st announcement. But I\'m starting to think that it may just be a waste of product to wear it regularly in this
town to look for hits. I\'ll try again though, as I was hoping to get an idea of how things work before my next
vacation.
WAGG is another story as I think that\'s a good one for me to use at work to help my attitude
and my interactions with others.
The county fair is next week. Maybe I should try there. At least if I OD, I
can attribute it to the livestock there. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Edited to add
that the sprays of TE were to the chest on Friday and the groin on Sunday, covered by clothing. Guess I\'ll have
to try the recommended dab method.
DrSmellThis
03-28-2004, 02:47 PM
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Yes, an interesting question -- how much phero to wear when at a
livestock fair. Let\'s see... What to recommend? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Perhaps you should
a) snort a lot while keeping in mind a vivid image of stampeding amorous,
libidinous pigs.
b) try not to wear red, unless you like that kind of thing.
c) do wear some
crotchless chaps, and
d) yell, \"Wilburrrrr!\" in 10 minute intervals.
Hope this helps.
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
oscar
03-28-2004, 02:49 PM
IP,
Plan a heavy A-None OD for the County Fair and go hang out around the swine pen. * If you\'re sufficiently
dosed up, a prize sow may just \"assume the position\" for you.
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif
http://w
ww.antecint.co.uk/main/boarmate.htm (\"http://www.antecint.co.uk/main/boarmate.htm\")
It doesn\'t sound like you live in a very exciting town,
and at
least this would be SOMETHING INTERESTING. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
*(For Entertainment
Purposes Only!) /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Oscar
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
DrSmellThis
03-28-2004, 02:54 PM
That\'s right, Oscar; that\'s the goal.
oscar
03-28-2004, 03:11 PM
Doc,
Your post wasn\'t up yet when I started my reply.
Shoulda known that you\'d be hypin\' the
behavioral, where I chose to prescribe. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Oscar
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
InternationalPlayboy
03-28-2004, 03:32 PM
Actually, you both had the same idea I did when I thought about wearing mones to the fair. Just to see
an interesting reaction.
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
koolking1
03-29-2004, 05:34 AM
I
find this topic pretty interesting as it addresses a few things that have been happening to me over the past year
and a half since we moved up here. The women here (White Mountains of NH, somewhat sparsely populated)tend to be a
bit on the heavy side as a whole and they dress mostly in jeans and flannel shirts. I have had hardly any
\"hits\" in this neck of the woods. Mostly I find that wearing pheromones here mainly brings out aggressive
behaviors in men here who are already a bit on the aggressive side (loggers and such). The few hits I\'ve gotten
from women were from older ones (too old for me for sure, not that I\'m all that young - 53). I have had much
much better luck (hits) in the cities (Tampa, NY or Boston)that I\'ve lived in or near the past 5 years since I
started using pheromones. Also, this past winter and the one before I have gotten depressed for what I thought was
just general lack of sunshine and bitter cold but it may also be that the SOE I wear is helping this along, not sure
though. At any rate, we\'re moving again, to Portsmouth this time and I have my hopes up.
Mtnjim
03-29-2004, 01:29 PM
\"The
Fashion Valley mall in San Diego is my favorite place for girl watching\"
Horton Plaza is pretty good too. You
coming in from Yuma?? If so, I can feel ya\' about the shortage of women. My exit from the 8 is the Buckman
Springs rest stop. Then up into the hills. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
InternationalPlayboy
03-29-2004, 02:03 PM
You got me pegged, Mtnjim. I usually stop at the Buckman springs rest to stretch my legs. Did that fire
last fall get close to you? I noticed in December that it had burnt on both sides of the freeway in places near
Alpine.
I like FV better than HP. It\'s right near where I stay and I don\'t feel like I\'m in an M.C.
Escher drawing like I do at Horton. Horton Plaza\'s geometry seems to keep me moving and not stop anywhere for
long.
I was wondering if anyone would figure out my location, having mentioned both San Diego and Phoenix.
That\'s about the best thing about Yuma is that it half way between the two cities. Takes about 2.5 hours for me
to drive to either one.
Mtnjim
03-29-2004, 03:09 PM
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You got me pegged, Mtnjim. I usually stop at the
Buckman springs rest to stretch my legs. Did that fire last fall get close to you? I noticed in December that it had
burnt on both sides of the freeway in places near Alpine.
I like FV better than HP. It\'s right near where
I stay and I don\'t feel like I\'m in an M.C. Escher drawing like I do at Horton. Horton Plaza\'s geometry
seems to keep me moving and not stop anywhere for long.
I was wondering if anyone would figure out my
location, having mentioned both San Diego and Phoenix. That\'s about the best thing about Yuma is that it half way
between the two cities. Takes about 2.5 hours for me to drive to either one.
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class=\"post\">
The fire got to the north slope of Pine Valley, they evacuated to Lake Morena.
Was
without power for a week though. My refrigerator has never been cleaner.
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Probably
only people from around here could figure out where you were.
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Ya, HP does have some strange layout.
InternationalPlayboy
04-23-2004, 10:04 PM
Well over a month now since I renewed my interest in pheromones. Wish I had some great sexual
hits to report by now, but nothing yet. Not really much of a social scene aside from bars in this town, but I\'ve
been hitting book and craft stores on the weekends. Not giving up yet.
I must repeat my feelings though, that the
best effect of mones so far have been on myself. Besides the subject of this thread, WAGG, I\'ve been using SOE,
TE and my two year old bottle of NPA. (Not to mention my former favorite cologne, Realm.) I don\'t use TE/NPA
together of course, but one or the other, alone or combined with SOE, Realm, Pheros and/or WAGG.
I feel like when
I wear TE/NPA, I stand a little straighter, hold my stomach in a little more and just have a stronger feeling of
confidence. I\'m also starting to feel a psychological addiction to these products. I try to do a couple of non
mone days, as has been recommended in this forum, but I still feel like I want to use them on those days.
I was
going to just stick to SOE or WAGG, maybe combined with Realm or Pheros at work, but this week I found myself using
TE and NPA on a couple of days. There is still the self-consciousness I\'ve always had about mones that I\'m
wearing too much with NPA/TE, even with one small dab of NPA from a vial with a 1/4 inch opening. But Thursday, I
did that one dab on my chest, with a little SOE on the wrists and collarbone, and I felt like a \"take charge
guy.\" My boss wasn\'t in that day and there was a request for some equipment to be installed. I installed the
device then realized that the requestors, just expected it to work, not realizing that it took coordination from two
other groups for everything to come together. So I ended up taking the initiative to coordinate the key people and
teach the requestors, who are fairly new, that video signals don\'t just magically appear in the building but have
to be coordinated through the communication group.
Anyway, the feeling of \"power\" I get from TE/NPA makes it
hard to go through the dry days when I lay off the mones.
ToBeOrNotToBe
04-24-2004, 08:14 AM
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I\'m also starting to feel a
psychological addiction to these products.
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Same here!
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Especially with AE.
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