View Full Version : olfaction - interesting link to this usbject...
Bottle
03-14-2004, 04:25 AM
http://www.cf.ac.uk/biosi/staff/jaco
b/teaching/sensory/olfact1.html (\"http://www.cf.ac.uk/biosi/staff/jacob/teaching/sensory/olfact1.html\")
good link!
but not so sure about this:
\"Recent research has shown that a panel of
women can discriminate between armpit swabs taken from people watching \"happy\" and \"sad\" films. Men were
less good at this. The emotions of others, for example fear, contentment, sexuality, may therefore be experienced
and communicated by smell.\"
this I find hard to believe, I\'d like to see the actual results and
conditions of the experiment.
Bottle
03-14-2004, 05:20 AM
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good link!
but not so sure about
this:
\"Recent research has shown that a panel of women can discriminate between armpit swabs taken from
people watching \"happy\" and \"sad\" films. Men were less good at this. The emotions of others, for example
fear, contentment, sexuality, may therefore be experienced and communicated by smell.\"
this I find
hard to believe, I\'d like to see the actual results and conditions of the experiment.
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isnt there info on the site to find that out if you wish...i\'m sure
there was
DrSmellThis
03-14-2004, 05:31 AM
\"Discriminate\" has a \"statistical\" rather than \"mental\" meaning in experiments
such as this. If you didn\'t know this the study results would be harder to believe.
They just mean
participants responded differently to the happy vs sad swabs, (kind of like how lie detector responses show
differences) not that they understood what the difference was, knew which was which; or even that they were
responding differently. We also don\'t know how big the difference in response was in real terms, just that it was
a statistically significant difference.
Even scientists sometimes miss these points.
Still, these are strong
scientific results which hit upon what pheromones are -- a form of automatic, non-verbal, airborne (also tactile)
information exchange between animals. This is an exciting study because of the implications.
...hope this helps.
jvkohl
03-14-2004, 05:14 PM
Probably a reference to Atzmueller\'s work (in Vienna) as published in Neuroendocrinolgy Letters. If
so, there\'s a link from my site to the pdf of the original article.
Sagacious1420
03-14-2004, 06:59 PM
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good link!
but not so
sure about this:
\"Recent research has shown that a panel of women can discriminate between armpit swabs
taken from people watching \"happy\" and \"sad\" films. Men were less good at this. The emotions of others, for
example fear, contentment, sexuality, may therefore be experienced and communicated by smell.\"
this I find
hard to believe, I\'d like to see the actual results and conditions of the experiment.
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What exactly is it that you\'re not sure of or find hard to believe?
that you can smell the emotions of others from their smell!
belgareth
03-15-2004, 04:22 AM
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that you can smell the emotions of
others from their smell!
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Why not? Animals do it all the time and
at that level we are little different from animals. Dogs sense when somebody is afraid of them, cats get skittish
when their owner is upset. Any experienced parent can tell you that babies get fussy when the parent(s) are stressed
or upset. There is even evidence that some animals can sense impending earthquakes. It is all done at the
subconcious level that we civilized humans try so hard to ignore but the ability is still there.
Our biology/chemistry changes with our emotions, so you can see it makes sense that we can smell
emotions/state of minds if we can smell our biology.
DrSmellThis
03-15-2004, 11:19 AM
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Our biology/chemistry
changes with our emotions, so you can see it makes sense that we can smell emotions/state of minds if we can smell
our biology.
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This is the whole point of pheromones! This is why
they are interesting in the first place.
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