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having read a lot of articles in relation to Asian phero preference, I felt I should just do a field test of my own
to put an end to this confusing topic. Well, I don\'t believe in \'race\' as a verifiable concept, yet I think
most Asians can smell a distinct BO different from their own when meeting Caucasians. Maybe it\'s the food, maybe
not. Anyway, no need to get into that in any more depth.
I\'ve been using AE/m and NPA on a daily basis, and
was exposed to various social circumstances, and came to this conclusion.
As someone kindly pointed out, AE/m,
when used alone, yield most positive reponses from both males and females alike here in Seoul.
I usually added
a couple sprays of NPA-spiked cologne on top of 2 drops of AE/m and received no signs, as it were. Then I took NPA
out, and started usig AE/m alone, things took a turn for the better. As I\'m in a very steady relationship with my
gf, I didn\'t feel the need to visit bars and clubs in the city to prove its effectiveness. Instead, my business
dealings have gone so unbelievably smoothly that I can only attribute it to the phero\'s subtle effect. It was
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When I used AE/m in conjunction with NPA, Asian males,
especially the producer of my program at the studio, acted very defensively and avoided eye contacts, etc. But one
funny thing to be noted was that the Americans and Canadians who were recording for my show there reacted very
favorably. This reaction led me to believe that -none is, in a sense, Caucasian-friendly, and that I need to cut
down on my -none use.
I guess it\'s the -nol and -rone in AE that brought out the best in Asians. I\'ll up
my dosage of -nol, and see whether my guess had any grounds to it.
low -none, high -nol, -rone might be the
answer. Taking into consideration the traditional barrier between people unless properly introduced to, the result
of which boosts the need for approachability factor above all else, all this seems to make sense. Or doesn\'t it?
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I\'ll keep you all posted.
Pherona
03-14-2004, 03:00 PM
Hmm. Maybe for asians, -none is better used only in places where alcohol or where the sex drive is
higher ... and -nol and -rone are more suited for the asian workplace. Unless of course you are working in a club or
etc.
My guess is, its not race specific(chemically) but rather culture specific. Caucasians are generally more
open, and that could be the reason that they react to -none in a better way. Asians are generally more conservative,
and the alpha male mone might make you seem more of a competitor, rather then a \"Hey, this guy is good (alpha male
aura) and I\'m sure he can get the job done well.\"
Thoughts?
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Hmm. Maybe for asians, -none is better used only in
places where alcohol or where the sex drive is higher ... and -nol and -rone are more suited for the asian
workplace. Unless of course you are working in a club or etc.
My guess is, its not race specific(chemically) but
rather culture specific. Caucasians are generally more open, and that could be the reason that they react to -none
in a better way. Asians are generally more conservative, and the alpha male mone might make you seem more of a
competitor, rather then a \"Hey, this guy is good (alpha male aura) and I\'m sure he can get the job done
well.\"
Thoughts?
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It is probably both. Defintely culturally
driven but also, *from what I have read* Asians produce less none, so phero conditioning could then be different.
I\'ll have to agree with blf \'cause macho-ness is usually translated into uncultured and uncivilised in Korea,
Japan, and China. So, projecting too much -none aura must have become a problem to be dealt with. Maybe the current
lack of -none in Asian males and Asian female preference for -nol in Asian males are telling us just that.
Using more -none only in bars and clubs sounds like a fine idea \'cause alcohol sort of removes pretty much all
cultural conditioning, given enough amount.
I\'d love to try out AE/WAGG mix on these fellow countrymen
sometime next month, and let you know the result. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Yes, definetly try AE+WAGG.
Maybe 2 drops AE with 2 dabs WAGG.
Bottle
03-15-2004, 11:11 AM
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\'cause macho-ness is usually translated into
uncultured and uncivilised in Korea, Japan, and China.
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Macho-ness IS uncultured and Civilized, grunt grunt ug ug argggu
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Well, I tested a session of AFC last night. She seemed pretty subdued, as it were. But she didn\'t seem willing
to give me something you know what. Too much -none . I guess. Ae/w or AE/m mixed with SOE might be the asnswer.
WAGG works on Asian girls for me.
But then again, WAGG works on everyone for me.
I do think Asians could be
more sensitive to -none and not like it.
But then again I know some Asian girls who love black guys, and they
tend to be more -none heavy (at least according to some people).
Was that clear enough? No?
Well anyway,
WAGG works on Asian girls for me.
I
think we need to continue this dicussion more. so many more asian people will find it useful.
xvs, can you post
your story using WAGG for Asian target, and dose you use, ETC ?
Thanks
In my case, using WAGG alone produced almost unnoticeable to no result. On certain days, too much WAGG even made me
feel depressed and look like a wimp in the eyes of the ladies when used as a standalone. I now use 3-4 drops of
AE+like 2 drops of WAGG together with varying degrees of success. Not found the #9 potion for Asians yet. But I
still hang in there for more extensive phero experiments.
Did any of you guys try V5?
Bottle
04-26-2004, 10:17 AM
Damn I saw the hottest Asian chic on Sat night...I normally dont dig Asian Girls...but she was sooo damn hot
great ass WOW
Bottle
04-26-2004, 10:26 AM
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Damn I saw the hottest Asian chic on Sat night...I normally dont dig Asian
Girls...but she was sooo damn hot
great ass WOW
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and did you
shake that ass for her too? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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She didnt get to check me out...Her loss, she should of been more observant
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I did get introduced to the girl of my dreams however..Damn Damn
Damn...I\'m so pissed off. So I get to talk with her, NO the music is too fuking loud and we cant her a word each
of us are saying, I\'m very tipsy by this point too. SO I give up shruging my shoulders.
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif later in the night she was wasted too and her friends where
being very guarded over her because of it, so I couldnt go in for the kill. Well if she was like that then it would
of been a waste of time anyrate...there will be a next time. MAHAHAHAHAHA
what\'s V5??? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
DrSmellThis
04-27-2004, 12:33 AM
A phero mix made by Pherone.
This guy in Japan has been getting crazy hits off it, and it seems to work best alone for him.
Humm.....So the V5 seems to be a definite possibility for Asians, then. But the Pherone\'s reputation seems to be
somewhat dodgy according to some articles on this forum. can anyone say the difference between WAGG and V5 in their
effects?
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Humm.....So the V5 seems to be a definite
possibility for Asians, then. But the Pherone\'s reputation seems to be somewhat dodgy according to some articles
on this forum. can anyone say the difference between WAGG and V5 in their effects?
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Yea, there is a difference, from what I have read....haven\'t tried v5. Pherone\'s
reputation is dodgy, but the product seems to work extremely well in Japan, for this particular guy, and I\'d be
interested to know if other Asians have tried it.
Will have to give V5 a try in a month or so. At the moment, I\'ve got simply too many to try out. Adding more
items to my current arsenal doesn\'t sound like a good idea. Will keep you all posted when I give it a trial run
with Asian population here in Seoul. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
DrSmellThis
04-27-2004, 08:39 AM
According to Bruce, there are shady things about the company (wanting to lie about how much is in the
bottles). But the V5 product seems to work well, \"unfortunately.\"
Just want to make this thread appear at
the top again. hope somebody have new data. Thanks
Friendly1
07-29-2004, 08:01 AM
Well, I usually had great hits
from Asian girls in Houston when I was wearing The Edge, APC, and one of my regular colognes. Lots of body contact,
eye contact, friendly chatter. They often remembered me when I didn't remember them. I think the high
Androstenone theory is on the money or close to it. Asian women are just really drawn to it.
evon610
10-12-2004, 02:54 AM
Any new Info? Interesting topic.
How about the V5?
kappakai
01-03-2005, 01:58 PM
AE/WAGG has had some good
preliminary results with Asian girls for me. Well, just one. 26 yr. old Korean-Korean (as opposed to
Korean-American) girl. 2 drops of WAGG, 2 of AE and a thin swipe of SOE. Blind date (damn I hate those.) Basically,
I noticed a change in attitude through the night. Kind of standoffish, shy at first, then she opened up, giggled
some, even flirted. Towards the end of the night, she was slapping me playfully and followed me up to my apartment.
Unfortunately, I was not attracted to her at all, but I know very easily, I could have had her.
I think WAGG
gives the "nice guy" impression that Asian girls seem to look for. SOE opens them up, makes them chatty, and the
none in whatever you use (AE in my case) gets them thinking.
Friendly1
01-03-2005, 11:51 PM
I've been reading some articles
recently on Asian-American relationships. It appears that many Asian men living in the United States are
complaining that many, if not most, of the Asian girls they know are choosing Caucasian boyfriends and husbands over
Asians (some Asian-Hispanic relationships are also being reported). There is a populist syndrome called "Angry
Asian Male" in which young Asian men complain on the Internet about the shortage of interested Asian girls. They
compare themselves to African-American women who are complaining about how African-American men seem to prefer
Caucasian women.
Now, there are also plenty of close-knit Asian ethnic communities in several areas of the
country, and those communities seem to harbor a smaller percentage of Angry Asian Males than other areas. The
phenomenon seems real enough, and a lot of speculation is occurring about why it is happening. Some Asian women
have written that they just have a larger pool of Caucasian men to choose from.
It may very well be that a lot
of these girls are influenced by the higher Androstenone production of Caucasian men. Of course, if that is the
case, why aren't they influenced by the even higher Androstenone production of African-American men? Maybe that's
just too strong a mix. Of course, I have been assured by several Asians that there is a lot of racism among
traditional Asian families.
Now that I am back in Houston, I find I still get plenty of interest from Asian
girls. It's an interesting experience but I would say there are probably several primary factors which determine
why women are drawn to some men more than others. Pheromones comprise only part of the picture. Status and
ambition/confidence comprise two other parts of the picture.
TRock
01-03-2005, 11:59 PM
the whole issue with asian females
has to do with self-hate issues. alot of asian girls have low self esteem and they date white guys as a form of
validation. i'm not saying all asian girls but alot of them.
Pheroman
01-04-2005, 08:34 AM
"Angry Asian Male"...heh i like
that:
asian girls likes white guys
white guys likes everything
black guys get everything
asian guys get
nothing
kappakai
01-04-2005, 09:02 AM
ha... asian men have been so
emasculated by society it's destroyed their collective self-esteem. not that this pertains to ALL asian men, but as
a general group, it's definitely happening. from small dick issues to a lack of sexual prowess on the screen (you
ever see an asian guy have sex in a movie??) to the stigma of sex in the home, there are a million reasons for not
only asian american girls, but all american girls in general, to view asian men as non-sexual beings, besides the
obvious fact that there are a billion of us, so something's working... not only does this characterization bear on
the psyche of asian men, but, i believe, asian women, who are portrayed as very sexual beings, as well.
my
take on asian women is that many are trained into looking for the best provider (hence, gold diggers....). in
america, that is the white man, who has the most financial, political and sexual power as a ethnic group. as for
asian men, we're generally told to look for a good wife, subservient and a good cook, but mostly to go succeed in
school first, so as to be a solid provider for said wife, who would probably be asian. the more assertive and
aggressive nature of non-asian women could be a turn-off. put this together, and you get the angry-asian male. too
scared to go after a white or black girl, and too emasculated to be attractive to yellow girls.
if anything,
this can be attributed to a cultural gap, as most asian-americans are 1st and 2nd generation americans, caught
between being asian and being american. and again, broad generalization. your mileage may vary.
TRock
01-04-2005, 09:40 AM
kappakai brings up a good point.
too many asian guys have limiting belief such as that and lack self esteem due to societal programming. add to that,
in asian families there is nobody to learn "game" from and the emphasis is always on success monetary wise versus
socially wise in asian families. that leads to most asian guys becoming angry asian men. i have a roommate who is
more worried about working being a millionaire in his 30's and wasting his prime years away working then going out
and living a good life. what's the point of being a millionaire if your life sucks.
kappakai
01-04-2005, 10:02 AM
yah, trock, agreed. i look at my
dad, or more suitably, some of my friends, it's all career, money, cars, materialism. there is no affection in the
house, no one to talk about sex with, an always over-bearing mother (oedipus complex anyone??), etc. etc. etc. but
you know what, much as the cards are ostensibly stacked against us, everyone's got something against them. and like
you said, if you buy into that mindset, you've thought yourself out of the game already.
that said, just be
yourself, programmed, tainted, or otherwise. you can find yourself a girl that will be suitable for you. if all you
do is lament the dearth of available asian girls, you haven't tried hard enough. they are out there, you just might
have to dig a little harder to get out of the hole you are already in.
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