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Chris_23
03-13-2004, 05:01 PM
Don\'t Drink Your

Milk!

Processing Is the Problem

The path that transforms healthy milk products into allergens and

carcinogens begins with modern feeding methods that substitute high-protein, soy-based feeds for fresh green grass

and breeding methods to produce cows with abnormally large pituitary glands so that they produce three times more

milk than the old fashioned scrub cow. These cows need antibiotics to keep them well.

Their milk is then

pasteurized so that all valuable enzymes are destroyed (lactase for the assimilation of lactose; galactase for the

assimilation of galactose; phosphatase for the assimilation of calcium).

Literally dozens of other precious

enzymes are destroyed in the pasteurization process. Without them, milk is very difficult to digest. The human

pancreas is not always able to produce these enzymes; over-stress of the pancreas can lead to diabetes and other

diseases.

The butterfat of commercial milk is homogenized, subjecting it to rancidity. Even worse, butterfat may

be removed altogether. Skim milk is sold as a health food, but the truth is that butter-fat is in milk for a reason.



Without it the body cannot absorb and utilize the vitamins and minerals in the water fraction of the milk. Along

with valuable trace minerals and short chain fatty acids, butterfat is America\'s best source of preformed vitamin

A.

Synthetic vitamin D, known to be toxic to the liver, is added to replace the natural vitamin D complex in

butterfat. Butterfat also contains re-arranged acids which have strong anti-carcinogenic properties.

Non-fat

dried milk is added to 1% and 2% milk. Unlike the cholesterol in fresh milk, which plays a variety of health

promoting roles, the cholesterol in non-fat dried milk is oxidized and it is this rancid cholesterol that promotes

heart disease.

Like all spray dried products, non-fat dried milk has a high nitrite content. Non-fat dried milk

and sweetened condensed milk are the principle dairy products in third world countries; use of ultra high

temperature pasteurized milk is widespread in Europe.

Other Factors Regarding Milk

Milk and refined sugar

make two of the largest contributions to food induced ill health in our country. That may seem like an overly harsh

statement, but when one examines the evidence, this is a reasonable conclusion.

The recent approval by the FDA

of the use of BGH (Bovine Growth Hormone) by dairy farmers to increase their milk production only worsens the

already sad picture.

BGH causes an increase in an insulin-like growth factor (IGF-1) in the milk of treated

cows. IGF-1 survives milk pasteurization and human intestinal digestion. It can be directly absorbed into the human

bloodstream, particularly in infants.

It is highly likely that IGF-1 promotes the transformation of human breast

cells to cancerous forms. IGF-1 is also a growth factor for already cancerous breast and colon cancer cells,

promoting their progression and invasiveness.

It is also possible for us to absorb the BGH directly from the

milk. This will cause further IGF-1 production by our own cells.

BGH will also decrease the body fat of cows.

Unfortunately, the body fat of cows is already contaminated with a wide range of carcinogens, pesticides, dioxin,

and antibiotic residues. When the cows have less body fat, these toxic substances are then transported into the

cows\' milk.

BGH also causes the cows to have an increase in breast infections for which they must receive

additional antibiotics.

Prior to BGH, 38%of milk sampled nationally was already contaminated by illegal residues

of antibiotics and animal drugs. This will only increase with the use of BGH. One can only wonder what the long term

complications will be for drinking milk that has a 50% chance it is contaminated with antibiotics.

There is also

a problem with a protein enzyme called xanthine oxidase which is in cow\'s milk. Normally, proteins are broken

down once you digest them.

However, when milk is homogenized, small fat globules surround the xanthine oxidase

and it is absorbed intact into your blood stream. There is some very compelling research demonstrating clear

associations with this absorbed enzyme and increased risks of heart disease.

Ear specialists frequently insert

tubes into the ear drums of infants to treat recurrent ear infections. It has replaced the previously popular

tonsillectomy to become the number one surgery in the country.

Unfortunately, most of these specialists don\'t

realize that over 50% of these children will improve and have no further ear infections if they just stop drinking

their milk.

This is a real tragedy. Not only is the $3,000 spent on the surgery wasted, but there are some

recent articles supporting the likelihood that most children who have this procedure will have long term hearing

losses.

It is my strong recommendation that you discontinue your milk products. If you find this difficult, I

would start for several weeks only, and reevaluate how you feel at that time.

This would include ALL dairy,

including skim milk and Lact-Aid milk, cheese, yogurt, and ice cream. If you feel better after several weeks you can

attempt to rotate small amounts of one form of milk every four days.

You probably are wondering what will happen

to your bones and teeth if you stop milk. The majority of the world\'s population takes in less than half the

calcium we are told we need and yet they have strong bones and healthy teeth.

Cows\' milk is rich in

phosphorous which can combine with calcium--and can prevent you from absorbing the calcium in milk. The milk protein

also accelerates calcium excretion from the blood through the kidneys.

This is also true when you eat large

amount of meat and poultry products. Vegetarians will need about 50% less calcium than meat eaters because they lose

much less calcium in their urine.

It is possible to obtain all your calcium from dark green vegetables (where do

you think the cow gets their\'s from?). The darker the better. Cooked collard greens and kale are especially good.

If you or your child is unable to take in large amounts of green vegetables, you might want to supplement with

calcium.

If you can swallow pills, we have an excellent, inexpensive source called Calcium Citrate, which has a

number of other minerals which your body requires to build up maximally healthy bone.

It is much better than a

simple calcium tablet. You can take about 1,000 mg a day. For those who already suffer from osteoporosis, the best

calcium supplement is microcrystalline hydroxyapatite.

It is also important that you take vitamin D in the

winter months from November to March. Normally your skin converts sunshine to vitamin D, but the sunshine levels in

the winter are very low unless you visit Florida or Mexico type areas.

Most people obtain their vitamin D from

milk in the winter; so if you stop it, please make sure you are taking calcium with vitamin D or a multi vitamin

with vitamin D to prevent bone thinning.

Most people are not aware that the milk of most mammals varies

considerably in its composition. For example, the milk of goats, elephants, cows, camels, wolves, and walruses show

marked differences, in their content of fats, protein, sugar, and minerals. Each was designed to provide optimum

nutrition to the young of the respective species. Each is different from human milk.

In general, most animals

are exclusively breast-fed until they have tripled their birth weight, which in human infants occurs around the age

of one year. In no mammalian species, except for the human (and domestic cat) is milk consumption continued after

the weaning period. Calves thrive on cow milk. Cow\'s milk is designed for calves.

Cow\'s milk is the number

one allergic food in this country. It has been well documented as a cause in diarrhea, cramps, bloating, gas,

gastrointestinal bleeding, iron-deficiency anemia, skin rashes, atherosclerosis, and acne.

It is the primary

cause of recurrent ear infections in children. It has also been linked to insulin dependent diabetes, rheumatoid

arthritis, infertility, and leukemia.

Hopefully, you will reconsider your position on using milk as a form of

nourishment. Small amounts of milk or milk products taken infrequently, will likely cause little or no problems for

most people.

However, the American Dairy Board has done a very effective job of marketing this product. Most

people believe they need to consume large, daily quantities of milk to achieve good health. NOTHING could be further

from the truth.

Public health officials and the National Dairy Council have worked together in this country to

make it very difficult to obtain wholesome, fresh, raw dairy products. Nevertheless, they can be found with a little

effort. In some states, you can buy raw milk directly from farmers.

Whole, pasteurized, non-homogenized milk

from cows raised on organic feed is now available in many gourmet shops and health food stores. It can be cultured

to restore enzyme content, at least partially. Cultured buttermilk is often more easily digested than regular milk;

it is an excellent product to use in baking.

Many shops now carry whole cream that is merely pasteurized (not

ultra pasteurized like most commercial cream); diluted with water, it is delicious on cereal and a good substitute

for those allergic to milk.

Traditionally made creme fraiche (European style sour cream), it also has a high

enzyme content.


1997-2002 Dr. Joseph Mercola www.mercola.com (\"http://www.mercola.com\")

tallmacky
03-13-2004, 05:08 PM
Personally I have

been as of late buying fresh squeezed female (human) breast milk online, and drinking it. I find it reminds me of

the days which my mother fed me. Nothing beats breast milk in my opinon. Brings ya right back to your childhood.

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DrSmellThis
03-13-2004, 05:26 PM
Another Tall

tale. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

CJ01
03-14-2004, 03:28 AM
Breast milk tastes vile

(so I´m told)

tallmacky
03-14-2004, 01:28 PM
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Breast milk tastes vile (so I´m told)

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There\'s nothing vile about breast milk, I was 9 years old when my mom

cut me off from the juice. Had it every morning with the cheerios or just fresh squeezed. She told me it was weird

to be 9 and still be relient on the milk, as if that is something weird..whatever.

There are places online that

you can order breast milk, it is a guess treat nowadays.

Chris_23
03-14-2004, 07:49 PM
This is talking

about cow milk.Cow milk doesnt do nothing for you like alot of people think.I also so a show on tv talking about it.

DrSmellThis
03-15-2004, 12:24 AM
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Breast milk tastes vile (so I´m told)

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There\'s nothing vile about breast milk, I was 9 years old when my mom cut me off from the

juice. Had it every morning with the cheerios or just fresh squeezed. She told me it was weird to be 9 and still be

relient on the milk, as if that is something weird..whatever.



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Whatever!

EXIT63
03-15-2004, 06:13 AM
Wow, an internet story

with confirmation from TV. Stop the presses! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

CJ01
03-15-2004, 01:54 PM
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Cow milk doesnt do nothing for you like alot of people think.

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I do feel guilty about stealing the milk from young

calves sometimes... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif more worried about tm now

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oscar
03-15-2004, 02:25 PM
tallmacky writes:



\"There\'s nothing vile about breast milk, I was 9 years old when my mom cut me off from the juice. Had it

every morning with the cheerios or just fresh squeezed. She told me it was weird to be 9 and still be relient on the

milk, as if that is something weird..whatever.\"





That explains SO much.

O ;)

bjf
03-15-2004, 03:02 PM
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tallmacky

writes:

\"There\'s nothing vile about breast milk, I was 9 years old when my mom cut me off from the juice.

Had it every morning with the cheerios or just fresh squeezed. She told me it was weird to be 9 and still be relient

on the milk, as if that is something weird..whatever.\"



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That

explains SO much.

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tallmacky
03-15-2004, 05:15 PM
Explains a lot of

what?

You mean my \"uniquey-ness\" that\'s what the counselor calls it. Being breast fed \'til I was 9 gave

me stronger bones than you could dream off, you could push me off a 10 story building and I wouldn\'t break a

bone....superhuman? I think so. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

CJ01
03-16-2004, 02:16 PM
was your mum very poor

tm?

tallmacky
03-16-2004, 07:44 PM
Thanks for

bringing back memories of the subway and living in box crates.....I hope you are happy now CJ.

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Mmmmmm nurple was great....I find it hard to believe you other

guys don\'t miss the sweet milk...damn I gotta get back on the juice!

Ash
03-16-2004, 09:11 PM
Yeah, cow milk is all

kinds of bad for you. I stopped drinking it many cow pies ago and have not regretted it for a moment. I switched

over to soy milk but quit that cuz of the estrogen connection. Phyto-estrogens that is. At my age, 102, I don\'t

need no estros making me get a tub around my belt line and making my swift long unit shrink down to nothin and get

all soft. I\'m over to rice milk now. Yum!

CJ01
03-17-2004, 02:23 AM
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Thanks for bringing back memories of the subway and living in box

crates.....I hope you are happy now CJ.



<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> oh sorry

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Elana
03-17-2004, 04:08 AM
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Thanks for bringing back memories of the subway and living in box

crates.....I hope you are happy now CJ.



<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> oh sorry

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CJ.....Stop

listening to this fool. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

deb
05-26-2004, 05:48 PM
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Don\'t Drink Your Milk!

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/></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> Excellent article. Thanks. I\'ve always known we should go back to the

natural. My kids loved milk but couldn\'t drink it because of all the reasons mentioned in the article. What a

shame, because they love something that should be great for them only for it to be the detriment of their bodies.

deb
05-26-2004, 05:53 PM
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\"There\'s nothing vile about breast milk



<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> I just wish that the father that was around when my sons were born

would have vied for the milk coming from me because I have read where men really liked the taste and wished there

was an abundance for them also. I think that I could have come up with enough for both. He was too freaked out.

Pity

zeu2003
05-26-2004, 07:03 PM
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Personally I have been as of late buying fresh

squeezed female (human) breast milk online, and drinking it. I find it reminds me of the days which my mother fed

me. Nothing beats breast milk in my opinon. Brings ya right back to your childhood.

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Hmmm...

Breast milk with

roasted poddle (\"http://www.server2.love-scent.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Board=humor&amp;Number=124464&amp;Forum= A

ll_Forums&amp;Words=&amp;Match=Entire%20Phrase&amp;Searchpage= 0&amp;Limit=25&amp;Old=1week&amp;Main=124310&amp;Searc

h=true#Post124464\") ... Hmmm Delicious! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

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DrSmellThis
05-30-2004, 04:56 PM
Rice milk; almond milk. Never

touch dairy. Smells like a deli dumpster to me since I've been away from it. Nice post.

DCW
06-03-2004, 06:02 AM
I have been drinking SOY Milk for

about a year now.
No complaints here.



DCW

Pancho1188
06-03-2004, 06:45 AM
I drink fat-free milk. Soy,

etc. is too expensive. When they become competitive, count me in! :)

tallmacky
06-04-2004, 03:07 PM
Doesn't soy milk raise a males

estrogen levels. I heard of a vegetarian guy who actually got gyno from all the soy products he ingested, different

with everyone. Soy Milk? Why? Plus the growth hormones in today's milk helps you grow hair on your balls and for

girls your boobs a lot faster...now that is cool! :D

Gossamer_2701
06-04-2004, 03:14 PM
Ya know TM... I REALLY

expected to see Pancho's face on that one as it scrolled up :eek: Maybe you can let him know where you buy your

breast milk from :D

tallmacky
06-04-2004, 04:25 PM
Ya know

TM... I REALLY expected to see Pancho's face on that one as it scrolled up :eek: Maybe you can let him know where

you buy your breast milk from :D
HAHAHAHAHAHHA That's a freakin' great idea!!!! Why didn't I think of

that? Not sure if E would like it...but how couldn't she. She LOVES Pancho!

TheViking
08-29-2004, 06:47 AM
I've noticed problems with

diarrhea when using milk products, specially ice cream, but i've been to the doctor and taken blood tests and been

tested for milk allergy, and they didn't find anything.. You think it can still be the milk even though the doctors

don't find any allergy?

..I've stopped believing doctors after they told me i had arthritis and would probably

end up in a wheel chair soon.. (At the age of 17!). I did find a guy who had taken some sort of physioterapy

education in china though that fixed the problems in my feet :D (normal norwegian physioterapist didn't help any

though).

DrSmellThis
08-29-2004, 12:02 PM
I wonder if you're lactose

intolerant, and the sugar (which encourages microbe growth) and cold temps (which discourages digestion) of the ice

cream make it worse in your intestines?

TheViking
08-29-2004, 01:03 PM
Thinking the

same thing,or, not so scientifically ;)

I first heard about lactose intoleranse a few years ago and thought it

could fit my situation, but shouldn't that show up on allergy tests?

Not sure if this makes any sense, but i

feel i also get a bad stomach from eating i.e. bananas.. So haven't eaten that for ages, although they taste

great.

I have never liked drinking milk though, and i was told some time back that if you didn't like certain

foods when you were young it was often because you have an allergy for it..( ?)

Hey doc, have you got some sort

of education in this field or just being generally full of knowledge? ;)

DrSmellThis
08-29-2004, 01:54 PM
...lactose intolerance

wouldn't show on any allergy test, as won't many kinds of food sensitivities, when they don't trigger a histamine

reaction (what allergy tests detect) but some other reaction instead. There are other ways of finding out your food

sensitivities -- most commonly elimenating the most common trouble foods (e.g., wheat, milk products) for a week or

two; and then adding them back one at a time to see if you feel worse with that food. It takes a little discipline,

but it's worth it. Many feel like a completely new person after they elimenate their trouble foods.

I'm just

generally full of it... :) Health is just a long time hobby of mine, and it's fun to keep learning. I try to

approach it scientifically; and have worked with various natural practitioners over the years. Your issue is very

common and lots of people know about it.

TheViking
08-30-2004, 08:55 AM
Hallois

Well

thanks for sharing your knowledge :)

You don't happen to know if getting diarrhea etc because of food allergies

might then also give me a lack of vitamins or other important things we get through our food so that it might

prevent growth and/or cause other problems like i.e. weak bones etc?

I'll do a search on lactose inteoleranse

on google to find out more. If you happen to know about any good webpages for health issues like this please let me

know :confused:

Thanks again for your help :box:

Pancho1188
08-30-2004, 09:27 AM
75% of the world is lactose

intolerant...

TheViking
08-30-2004, 09:36 AM
WOW!

Where do you have that

figure from? That's a lot.. I'm pretty sure i'm one of those then.. i guees people have it at different

degrees... I'll have to read more about it though, to find out what sort of products besides milk and other dairy

products can be bad for me..

Oh, any suggestions on something to use with cereal when I can't sue milk? ...One

of the few situations I use regular milk...

BassMan
08-30-2004, 09:54 AM
WOW!

Where do

you have that figure from? That's a lot.. I'm pretty sure i'm one of those then.. i guees people have it at

different degrees... I'll have to read more about it though, to find out what sort of products besides milk and

other dairy products can be bad for me..

Oh, any suggestions on something to use with cereal when I can't sue

milk? ...One of the few situations I use regular milk...From

www.lactose.co.uk (http://www.lactose.co.uk/):


Permanent

lactase deficiency (the inability to produce the enzyme needed to break down lactose) develops in about 80-95% of

blacks and Orientals. About 50% of Mediterranean are affected while only up to 15% of Northern Europeans develop

lactase deficiency.

---


Interesting. Lots of

stuff on the web about lactose intolerance. I had thought that I was becoming intolerant myself, as certain milk

products bother me. Then again, yogurt and most cheeses don't. Turns out yogurt is well tolerated because it

contains it's own lactase, and aged cheeses don't have enough lactose in them to cause a problem.






Thanks for bringing up the issue. I'm going

to be doing some reading.




-Bass

TheViking
08-30-2004, 10:34 AM
Thanks for your input

Bass :)

I do feel the same way as you describe.
Yogurt doesn't seem to be that bad for me either.
What I feel

is worst for me is ice cream, speacially the soft kind they get out of those machines i believe.. And of course

normal milk from the carton.. I do wonder about wheat etc too though. Will take a look at the page you posted,

sounds like there will be a lot of information about the topic there ;)

Keep up the good work folks - Making my

life better post by post :thumbsup:

Pancho1188
08-30-2004, 10:42 AM
Soy milk or lactose-free milk

are the only things that can really replace milk in cereal...I've never had the latter, and the former tastes like

almonds. I've never had either in cereal...I'll have to try it once, but as I posted earlier, it's too

expensive. The problem with milk is that is technically isn't meant for human consumption. The United States used

a lot, though, and therefore became tolerant to it. Other countries, however, don't use milk as much and therefore

remain intolerant. There's some website that has the 75% statistic...it's like Ihatemilk.com or milkisbad.com or

something like that...I'm sure you could find it with a Google search. It also talks about conspiracy theories

regarding the Dairy Farmers, so you should look out for that.

TheViking
08-30-2004, 10:54 AM
Ah, I found that Rice Milk can

be used as a replacement on cereals, but I'm not sure if rice milk is available in norway.. Will have to check with

my local stores

Edit: I forgot to refresh the page before posting, so didn't see the last post before i

posted.. Anyways, I found it said that in northern europe it's 15%, so guess I probably belong to that group then..

75% did sound a bit much for norway, after all we drink a lot of milk here also..

DrSmellThis
08-30-2004, 11:29 AM
Hallois



Well thanks for sharing your knowledge :)

You don't happen to know if getting diarrhea etc because of food

allergies might then also give me a lack of vitamins or other important things we get through our food so that it

might prevent growth and/or cause other problems like i.e. weak bones etc?

I'll do a search on lactose

inteoleranse on google to find out more. If you happen to know about any good webpages for health issues like this

please let me know :confused:

Thanks again for your help :box:
Soy, rice, almond or oat milk can be

used on cereal to good effect, as can lactose free dairy milk (they add lactase to the milk.).

A diarrhetic

intestinal environment, which is too high in water, and where certain nutrients might not pass through the irritated

intestinal lining; couldn't be optimal for digestion and the utilization of nutrients. Long term diarrhea can be a

dangerous condition, and it certainly merits medical attention, as it is a symptom of some serious diseases (though

not usually, of course).

TheViking
08-30-2004, 12:37 PM
Hmm

I just read

about lactoce intolerance, milk allergy and IBS at the page BassMan posted..
Now I'm really confused :confused:



Since some parts of each seems to fit my situation... well, I will at least stop using milk and learn where it

is "hidden" so that i can avoid it completely..

To mention some of the things that drag me to different

conclusions..:
Milk allergy:
It is said that the problem is caused by the immune system not acknowledging the milk

protein, and they reffer to peniciling (which i'm alergic to - used it while i was a kid, it knocked me out for a

weak resulting in a much worse condition that the disease it was suppose to cure..), egg and banana (both which i

feel i get diarrhea from. can have some eg but not much i think..)
and from the other symptoms on the page i

recognize;
Eczema
Diarrhea (usually very runny)
Runny Nose (although that might just be because of my nose... I've had it since i was little, and

recently i've also been suffering from sinusitis)
Sneezing (although

that is triggered by sunlight - if that makes any sence?)

Lactose intolerance:
recognized

symptoms;


<LI>
wind diarrhea, which may begin from after half an hour

to 2 hours after eating or drinking foods containing lactose.

Persons who suffer from lactase

deficiency and do not avoid lactose may suffer from weight loss and malnutrition. <- don't think i suffer from

weight loss, or at least i'm average on the BMI.. I am afraid that i might be suffering of malnutrion though, since

I'm 20yo and only 176cm tall while my sister (24) is 177cm and my brother (27) is 187 cm. I've started a streching

program to see if that will trigger some more growth though, will post about that in a few weeks if it's any

successfull..





Some of the symptoms may be similar to those of milk allergy

but milk allergies can cause the body to react quicker, more often within a few minutes. <-- so maybe all the

symptoms i found in the milk allergy is from lactaze deficiency after all, but that doesn't explain the peniciling,

egg and banana part.. hmm


IBS:


Recognized

symptoms;


Abdominal pain, which is often colicky in nature.

It may be felt anywhere in the abdomen, but is often low down on the left. Many patients find their pain is worse

when constipated, and it may be relieved by opening the bowels or passing flatus (wind from the back passage). <--

it can be like that sometimes..
Alteration in bowel habit, which may be

constipation, diarrhea or an alternation between the two. Bowel habit varies enormously between individuals, though

most people have their own pattern. The change in bowel habit may be in the frequency of action, the form of the

motions, or associated urgency (rushing to go). There may be some discomfort or difficulty in opening the bowels. A

sensation of incomplete emptying is common. Ineffectual straining to pass a motion (tenesmus) and a sharp pain felt

low down inside the back passage (proctalgia fugax) are also common. <-- Didn't fully understand the last sentence.

But some times I have the sensation of incomplete emptying when I have a diarrhea

"attack"...
"Rich or spicy foods can also cause attacks. .... Large, infrequent meals

challenge the digestion much more than small, frequent ones, which often help to reduce

symptoms."

I do sometimes get the feeling that it has been triggered by spicy meals. I also

didn't have as much problems with diarrhea while in the military, and that might be because we had more frequent

meals and to set times.. Well, that's food for thought ;)


Hmm.. Think I need to

sleep on all of this information. Have to get up for work again in 6 hours..

I think I might have been a bit to

open above here, so please don't use any of this against me in any way.. :o

Well, if anyone bothered to read

that entire post they might have gotten something usefull out of it, or maybe you happen to understand some of it

much better than me (which is very likely). So please post any constructive comments.. Thanks

:)