I dont think the adkins diet is good for you. [Archive]

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Chris_23

03-13-2004, 04:38 PM

I been looking on the web and read up on this and it might let u loose weight but it isnt good for you

bu cutting carbs and eatting fat.U might look better but u will die of heat attack.I think ill try out the The

Warrior Diet it seems very good.

Bottle

03-13-2004, 08:09 PM

what planet are you on mate....this arguement has been going on for ages in the media...hilighted

resently by the geeza himself dieing of ill health.

Icarus

03-14-2004, 12:29 AM

phallacy.

The Atkins dude did not die of ill health.

There is the good Atkins (which is healthy

protiens - lean fish/meat etc) The Bad Atkins (which plebs like - fried food etc) and there is the new Atkins which

incorporates small amounts of Carbs.

To be honest, a 70-30 ratio of Protien to Carbs should be a much healthier

diet.

Steve

belgareth

03-14-2004, 01:26 AM

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what planet are you on mate....this

arguement has been going on for ages in the media...hilighted resently by the geeza himself dieing of ill health.

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Dr. Atkins died of a cracked skull after slipping on an icy

sidewalk.

A lot of people have used the diet and gained good health by really following it. Several of my

friends are on it and each one has lost weight without their cholestorol going up. In fact, most report it going

down along with their weight, blood pressure and in many cases their need for insulin in diabetics. It\'s hard to

argue with success. There are some really interesting points made regarding the relationship between our dietary

changes over the last hundred years, health problems and obiesity. His book is well worth reading just for the

information about that.

Elana

03-14-2004, 05:30 AM

I have never had a weight issue, but I am a totally foodie and when I first heard about the Atkins diet

I was intrigued at the thought of being able to eat all of these foods that were forbidden to me. I tried it out for

a year and OMG, I was a rail. I got into the double digits. I felt great! Really great. My energy skyrocketed.

It\'s not my style and I went back to a more balanced style of eating, but I certainly wouldn\'t knock Atkins

for anyone that goes that route. It works like you couldn\'t believe.

Adkins does not mean 7 eggs and a pound

of bacon for breakfast. The first two weeks of the plan, people may tend to take full advantage of the fatty

proteins, but there is a limit to how many steaks a person can eat. You find leaner, healthier options.

Kari

03-14-2004, 07:43 AM

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phallacy.

The Atkins dude did not

die of ill health.

There is the good Atkins (which is healthy protiens - lean fish/meat etc) The Bad Atkins

(which plebs like - fried food etc) and there is the new Atkins which incorporates small amounts of Carbs.

To be

honest, a 70-30 ratio of Protien to Carbs should be a much healthier diet.

Steve

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Also, a few fats for vitamin delivery and satiety.

Icarus

03-14-2004, 10:05 AM

yup.

OCP

03-14-2004, 12:01 PM

Atkins is great! If for no other reason a person stops eating refined sugar and refined white flour and

finds other, heathier options. Just cutting out the refined foods will help a person lose weight and have more

energy.

Elana

03-14-2004, 12:28 PM

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Atkins is great! If for no other reason

a person stops eating refined sugar and refined white flour and finds other, heathier options. Just cutting out the

refined foods will help a person lose weight and have more energy.

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Very good point!! I picked up some incredible habits from that diet. Getting rid of the whites.

I switched over to only brown rice and only eat the darkest grains. No more fruit juices unless they are fresh from

my juicer.

EXIT63

03-14-2004, 12:44 PM

I\'m on the hot dogs and beans diet. At least the beans are good for me.

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Elana

03-14-2004, 12:46 PM

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I\'m on the hot dogs and beans diet.

At least the beans are good for me. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Make sure the dogs are Kosher /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

EXIT63

03-14-2004, 12:51 PM

My favorites are Sabretts and Best. All beef ofcourse.

Not sure if they\'re kosher.

Elana

03-14-2004, 12:53 PM

Nope...not Kosher. They don\'t have to answer to a higher power.

EXIT63

03-14-2004, 12:55 PM

They are quite delicious though. Especially \"burn em an turn em\" on the grill.

bjf

03-14-2004, 01:00 PM

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They are quite delicious though.

Especially \"burn em an turn em\" on the grill.

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Have you tried

100 percent pork ones? Cut them down the middle and cook them face down in a skillet. Throw a dash of salt on

top. And cook the buns (inside down) to. Just throw butter in the skillet.

EXIT63

03-14-2004, 01:07 PM

Yo Mama eat pawk! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

bjf

03-14-2004, 01:11 PM

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Yo Mama eat pawk!

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lol, it is some

good stuff /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Hot dogs dn\'t have ground up intestines, kidnyes

ect, right? That is just sausage, right?

EXIT63

03-14-2004, 01:15 PM

Yeah, I grill sweet italian sausage cut longways like that. Man the fire extinguishers!!!

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Sexyredhead

03-14-2004, 01:15 PM

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Hot dogs dn\'t have ground

up intestines, kidnyes ect, right? That is just sausage, right?

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You just keep on telling yourself that. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Sagacious1420

03-14-2004, 03:54 PM

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Adkins does not mean 7 eggs and

a pound of bacon for breakfast.

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Well then, I\'m screwed!

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Elana

03-14-2004, 04:32 PM

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Adkins does not mean 7 eggs and a pound of bacon for breakfast.

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Well then, I\'m screwed!

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Just cut

down to 6 eggs and 3/4 pound of bacon and you will be just fine.

Kari

03-14-2004, 05:15 PM

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Yeah, I grill sweet italian sausage cut

longways like that. Man the fire extinguishers!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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I love a juicy sausage! Puts FIRE in a lady\'s furnace!

Elana

03-14-2004, 05:17 PM

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Yeah, I grill sweet italian sausage cut longways like that. Man the fire

extinguishers!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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I love a juicy sausage! Puts FIRE in a lady\'s furnace!

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Kari...you are on your way to getting us kicked out of the health forum and over to humor

again. Kari gets a bit nutty when it comes to cold cuts. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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EXIT63

03-14-2004, 05:21 PM

mmmmmmmmmmNitrates /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

OCP

03-14-2004, 05:22 PM

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I\'m on the hot dogs and beans diet.

At least the beans are good for me. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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This diet has been proven to cause brain damage.......something about methane.....

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Sagacious1420

03-14-2004, 06:05 PM

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Adkins does

not mean 7 eggs and a pound of bacon for breakfast.

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Well then,

I\'m screwed! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

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Just cut down to 6 eggs and 3/4 pound of bacon and you will be just fine.

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Thanks Elana, I was really concerned there for a minute. That

sounds like advice...errrrrr...uuuummmmm...I mean, that\'s sound advice.

Sagacious1420

03-14-2004, 06:08 PM

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Yeah, I grill

sweet italian sausage cut longways like that. Man the fire extinguishers!!!

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

<hr /></blockquote>

I love a juicy

sausage! Puts FIRE in a lady\'s furnace!

<hr /></blockquote>

Kari...you are on your

way to getting us kicked out of the health forum and over to humor again. Kari gets a bit nutty when it comes to

cold cuts. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Ladies, please...when you mention nuts, sausage and cut in the

same discussion I get very nervous. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Chris_23

03-14-2004, 07:39 PM

You dont get what im saying.Most people do the diet and eat alot of fat and think its heathy,Maybe i

just dont understand the adkins but from what i read and all its saying u can eat all the fat you want and that

just doesnt sound to heathy to me.You might loose the weight but u can still die of a heat attack.I didnt get this

from that docter dieing.I was just saying why i thought the adkins was bad.

belgareth

03-14-2004, 11:31 PM

Sexyredhead

03-15-2004, 05:07 AM

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You dont get what im saying.Most

people do the diet and eat alot of fat and think its heathy,Maybe i just dont understand the adkins but from what i

read and all its saying u can eat all the fat you want and that just doesnt sound to heathy to me.You might loose

the weight but u can still die of a heat attack.I didnt get this from that docter dieing.I was just saying why i

thought the adkins was bad.

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Be careful with what you read. There

will always be people on both sides who sound like they\'ve got some pretty good points--and they may. But take

some time and figure it out for yourself whether you agree with everything or not. If they didn\'t sound really

persuasive and logical, how would they get you to their side?

And I agree with Bel--get the book and read it

before you go saying it\'s bad. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Elana

03-15-2004, 05:10 AM

One good thing is Adkins has been studied a lot in the last few years, so there are many sources to go

by. You don\'t have to read a book by Adkins. You can do your own research online and get a bunch of different

info, both pro and con.

belgareth

03-15-2004, 05:24 AM

Ah, what a concept! Learning about something before deciding on it\'s merits.

Elana

03-15-2004, 05:26 AM

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Ah, what a concept! Learning about

something before deciding on it\'s merits.

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Or you can just

starting speaking your mind about something before you have ever learned anything about it. That\'s a popular

option as well. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

OCP

03-15-2004, 04:40 PM

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You dont get what im saying.Most people do the diet and eat alot of fat and

think its heathy,Maybe i just dont understand the adkins but from what i read and all its saying u can eat all the

fat you want and that just doesnt sound to heathy to me.You might loose the weight but u can still die of a heat

attack.I didnt get this from that docter dieing.I was just saying why i thought the adkins was bad.

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Borrow the book from somebody and read the first ten chapters. You\'ll

understand a lot better.

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Ok, another first, I agree with Bel!

Read the book and then comment. Mumbling under my breath.... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

OCP

03-15-2004, 04:42 PM

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Ah, what a concept! Learning about something before deciding on it\'s

merits.

<hr /></blockquote>

Or you can just starting speaking your mind about

something before you have ever learned anything about it. That\'s a popular option as well.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Fire, ready,

aim? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

jago25_98

03-20-2004, 04:54 AM

The eat fat thing was just a marketing ploy imho.

Knowing that sugar matters counts

PHP 87

03-24-2004, 06:14 PM

Fat is not bad for you. At least not certain types of fats.
Sugar and carbs with a high-glycemic index

are however, as they will jack up your insulin levels which will cause weight gain and retention.

I started

Atkins in March of 2002 and went from 245+ to 180 by November of 2002

My blood pressure and \"bad\" cholesterol

levels dropped signifigantly within a few months, my energy levels skyrocketed within days, and my sleep

requirements dropped by about 1.5 hours per night almost immediately.

My Brother, who is diabetic, went on Atkins

and no longer requires his diabetic medications.

Elana

03-25-2004, 06:13 AM

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I started Atkins in March of 2002 and

went from 245+ to 180 by November of 2002

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That\'s awesome!!!

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belgareth

04-22-2004, 07:46 PM

Study Blames Corn Syrup for Rise of Diabetes in US

Thu Apr 22, 3:21 PM ET

By Maggie Fox,

Health and Science Correspondent

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Corn syrup and other refined foods may be much to blame

for the huge increase in type-2 diabetes in the United States over the past few decades, U.S. researchers said on

Thursday.

A study of nearly 100 years of data on what Americans eat show a huge increase in processed

carbohydrates, especially corn syrup, and a large drop in the amount of fiber from whole grains, fruits and

vegetables.

It parallels a spike in the number of cases of type-2 diabetes, caused by the body\'s increasing

inability to properly metabolize sugars.

\"We are seeing this big jump in the number of calories,\" that

people are eating, Dr. Lee Gross, a family physician at the Inter-Medic Medical Group in North Port, Florida, who

led the study, said in a telephone interview.

\"We tried to break down where are these calories coming from? We

have heard everyone debating is it because of fat, is it because of carbohydrate and it is not really clear,\"

Gross added.

\"This shows the increase in the past 20 years is almost exclusively carbohydrates and certainly

corn syrup consumption has increased dramatically.\"

Gross said he was not \"picking on the corn syrup

industry,\" but added, \"It is hard to ignore the fact that 20 percent of our carbohydrates are coming from corn

syrup -- 10 percent of our total calories.\"

An estimated 16 million Americans have type-2 diabetes, the sixth

leading cause of death overall. And many studies have linked a high intake of refined carbohydrates and other foods

with a high \"glycemic index\" with the development of diabetes.

SPIKES IN INSULIN

Foods with a high

glycemic index cause a spike in insulin production. Many experts agree that, over time, repeatedly eating foods in

this pattern can cause insulin resistance, which in turn leads to diabetes.

Writing in the American Journal of

Clinical Nutrition (news - web sites), Gross and colleagues said they used data from the U.S. Department of

Agriculture (news - web sites) and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (news - web sites) to show that people

have eaten about the same amount of carbohydrates a day on average -- 500 grams -- since 1909.

But instead of

whole grains and vegetables, people are getting more and more of those carbs in the form of processed grains and

sugars -- most of all, in corn syrup, they said.

Gross, with colleagues at the Harvard School of Public Health

and the CDC, found that starting in 1980, people started consuming steadily more calories, with an average increase

in total calories of 500 calories a day.

\"Specifically, 428 calories (nearly 80 percent of the increase in

total energy) came from carbohydrates,\" they wrote.

Gross said people are probably not eating all those 500

calories. Some could be wasted. \"It\'s an estimate. It\'s hard to interpret,\" he said.

But the trend was

clear.

\"During the same period, the prevalence of type-2 diabetes increased by 47 percent and the prevalence

of obesity increased by 80 percent,\" they wrote.

Audrae Erickson, President of the Corn Refiners

Association, called the report misleading.

\"Diabetes rates are rising in many countries around the world that

use little or no high fructose corn syrup in foods and beverages, which supports findings by the Centers for Disease

Control and the American Diabetes Association that the primary causes of diabetes are obesity, advancing age and

heredity,\" she said in a statement.