None conversion [Archive] - Love-Scent Pheromones Forum

belgareth

03-12-2004, 03:05 PM

There have been

several posts lately mentioning conversion of none to other pheromones and I am a little confussed about it. After

an extensive search of both old posts and articles available on the web, I cannot find a single authoritive

reference to none converting to any other pheromone. I found a few referring to other pheromones converting to none

as the end of the conversion chain. Does anybody out there have any good material on the subject of none converting?

Sexyredhead

03-12-2004, 03:09 PM

I think it may

be some confusion of newer forum members more than anything.
All I\'ve ever seen is discussion of -nol

converting to -none. I haven\'t read anywhere that -none converts to anything else, or that any of the other

-mones we use here convert to -none or anything else we use.

But I could be wrong and I\'m sure someone will

point it out if I am. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

bjf

03-12-2004, 03:18 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
There have been several posts lately mentioning conversion of none to other

pheromones and I am a little confussed about it. After an extensive search of both old posts and articles available

on the web, I cannot find a single authoritive reference to none converting to any other pheromone. I found a few

referring to other pheromones converting to none as the end of the conversion chain. Does anybody out there have any

good material on the subject of none converting?

<hr /></blockquote>

One of the old

posts has a study where someone analyzed conversions. It saidnol could go to none, and then back.

Now I do not

about none going to nol when it orginates as none, but my guess even if this happens, in both cases it happens in

low amounts, because we (users) would have picked it up.

As far as none going to another pheromone, well since we

hardly know any pheromones, that would probably be difficult to say. It could turn into something else that we do

not know about yet. Or it could just become some useless compound that does not act as a pheromone.

belgareth

03-12-2004, 03:30 PM

Do you recall

which post? I read a lot of posts the past couple days and didn\'t see it. It would be good info to have since it

seems to be the only mention of it. Appreciate anything you remember.

oscar

03-12-2004, 03:36 PM

bjf,

I\'d like to

see a link to that study or at least that post because like bel, it\'s always been my understanding that

Androstenone is the end product of the metabolic and bacterial conversion process.
Compounds converting from one

thing to another I\'m fine with, but not back again. That just doesn\'t sound logical to me.

Oscar

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Skyy

03-12-2004, 03:37 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
There have been several posts lately mentioning

conversion of none to other pheromones and I am a little confussed about it. After an extensive search of both old

posts and articles available on the web, I cannot find a single authoritive reference to none converting to any

other pheromone. I found a few referring to other pheromones converting to none as the end of the conversion chain.

Does anybody out there have any good material on the subject of none converting?

<hr /></blockquote>

Im glad you brought this up, cause I was sitting here like WTF!?!??!. A post recently maybe

1-2 days ago said something like none converting to nol I think and oh man whatevers Im glad this is fixed!!!

bjf

03-12-2004, 03:39 PM

guys, i will do my best

to find the post.

it will be hard, but I will see what I can do.

bundyburger

03-12-2004, 03:40 PM

DrSmellThis has

mentioned in the past about -none maybe converting to even more sexual pheromones i.e. similar to LaCroy secrets

etc. (though i don\'t think he mentioned lacroy)
I only recall it being mentioned once in relation to applying in

armpits, crotch etc.

bjf

03-12-2004, 03:51 PM

Well, the stuff is going

back and forth, but I am not sure if it is pheros to pheros or pheros to useless

stuff

irsh-gower 1 (\"http://www.server2.love-scent.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB5&Number=3318

5&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&fpart=4&vc=1\")

irsh gower 2 (\"http://www.server2.love-scent.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB5&Number=97199&Forum=UB B

5&Words=gower%20&Match=Entire%20Phrase&Searchpage= 0&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=97128&Sea

rch=true#Post97199 \")

bjf

03-12-2004, 04:09 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Well, the stuff is going back and forth, but I am not sure if it is pheros to

pheros or pheros to useless

stuff

irsh-gower 1 (\"http://www.server2.love-scent.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB5&Number=3318

5&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&fpart=4&vc=1\")

irsh gower 2 (\"http://www.server2.love-scent.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB5&Number=97199&Forum=UB B

5&Words=gower%20&Match=Entire%20Phrase&Searchpage= 0&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=97128&Sea

rch=true#Post97199 \")

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Since sweat pH is a

factor, then it does make sense that diet affects how these pheromones act.

Sagacious1420

03-12-2004, 07:41 PM

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I think it may be some confusion of newer forum

members more than anything.

<hr /></blockquote>

I think you may be right, SRH.

I\'ve been catching up on some of the more recent threads, as I\'ve been away for a while, and have noticed some

\"interesting\" posts from some newbs lately. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Sexyredhead

03-13-2004, 05:29 AM

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I think you may be right, SRH.

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<sigh> Words to melt a girl\'s heart.

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Welcome back. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Sagacious1420

03-13-2004, 02:04 PM

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<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
I think you may be right, SRH.

<hr /></blockquote>

<sigh> Words to melt a girl\'s heart.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Welcome back. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

<hr /></blockquote>

Aren\'t you a sweetheart.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif Thanks for the welcome back.

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DrSmellThis

03-13-2004, 02:07 PM

there was an

article in my phero references thread a while back. It said the mones convert back and forth to some degree, but

mostly in the direction of breaking down to simpler -mones, especially -none. But if you start out with -none only,

you\'ll end up with less -none and more other things.

So you can see that what mones you apply only

determines starting levels, but skin conditions ultimately determine your \"equilibreum\" phero profile.

DrSmellThis

03-13-2004, 02:09 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
DrSmellThis has mentioned in the past about -none

maybe converting to even more sexual pheromones i.e. similar to LaCroy secrets etc. (though i don\'t think he

mentioned lacroy)
I only recall it being mentioned once in relation to applying in armpits, crotch etc.

<hr

/></blockquote>
Those comments of mine were about -nol, which is found in sweat, but

hardly at all on smelly or sexual body areas (unlike A1 and -none). -Nol gets produced there, but converts to other

things. This is why I always put a small amount of -nol (and -rone, for that matter) on these areas, to take

advantage of conversions and maximize the variety of likely pheromones on my skin without OD\'ing on the smelly

chemicals that -nol breaks down to (which seem on me to exist in the highest levels on my forearms.) Most of the

-nol should convert, so I don\'t even think of it as applying -nol, really.

Gawd, I\'ve analyzed this

pheromone thing to death! But once I get good \"hygiene\" habits, I sort of forget about them.

bjf

03-13-2004, 02:09 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
there was an articly in my phero references thread a while back. It said the

mones convert back and forth to some degree.

<hr /></blockquote>

Isn\'t that the

one I linked to earlier in this thread? Or is there another one?

DrSmellThis

03-13-2004, 02:14 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
there was an articly in my phero references thread a while back. It said the

mones convert back and forth to some degree.

<hr /></blockquote>

Isn\'t that the

one I linked to earlier in this thread? Or is there another one?

<hr /></blockquote>
That was the one! Good find!