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belgareth
03-12-2004, 03:05 PM
There have been
several posts lately mentioning conversion of none to other pheromones and I am a little confussed about it. After
an extensive search of both old posts and articles available on the web, I cannot find a single authoritive
reference to none converting to any other pheromone. I found a few referring to other pheromones converting to none
as the end of the conversion chain. Does anybody out there have any good material on the subject of none converting?
Sexyredhead
03-12-2004, 03:09 PM
I think it may
be some confusion of newer forum members more than anything.
All I\'ve ever seen is discussion of -nol
converting to -none. I haven\'t read anywhere that -none converts to anything else, or that any of the other
-mones we use here convert to -none or anything else we use.
But I could be wrong and I\'m sure someone will
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There have been several posts lately mentioning conversion of none to other
pheromones and I am a little confussed about it. After an extensive search of both old posts and articles available
on the web, I cannot find a single authoritive reference to none converting to any other pheromone. I found a few
referring to other pheromones converting to none as the end of the conversion chain. Does anybody out there have any
good material on the subject of none converting?
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One of the old
posts has a study where someone analyzed conversions. It saidnol could go to none, and then back.
Now I do not
about none going to nol when it orginates as none, but my guess even if this happens, in both cases it happens in
low amounts, because we (users) would have picked it up.
As far as none going to another pheromone, well since we
hardly know any pheromones, that would probably be difficult to say. It could turn into something else that we do
not know about yet. Or it could just become some useless compound that does not act as a pheromone.
belgareth
03-12-2004, 03:30 PM
Do you recall
which post? I read a lot of posts the past couple days and didn\'t see it. It would be good info to have since it
seems to be the only mention of it. Appreciate anything you remember.
oscar
03-12-2004, 03:36 PM
bjf,
I\'d like to
see a link to that study or at least that post because like bel, it\'s always been my understanding that
Androstenone is the end product of the metabolic and bacterial conversion process.
Compounds converting from one
thing to another I\'m fine with, but not back again. That just doesn\'t sound logical to me.
Oscar
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There have been several posts lately mentioning
conversion of none to other pheromones and I am a little confussed about it. After an extensive search of both old
posts and articles available on the web, I cannot find a single authoritive reference to none converting to any
other pheromone. I found a few referring to other pheromones converting to none as the end of the conversion chain.
Does anybody out there have any good material on the subject of none converting?
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Im glad you brought this up, cause I was sitting here like WTF!?!??!. A post recently maybe
1-2 days ago said something like none converting to nol I think and oh man whatevers Im glad this is fixed!!!
guys, i will do my best
to find the post.
it will be hard, but I will see what I can do.
bundyburger
03-12-2004, 03:40 PM
DrSmellThis has
mentioned in the past about -none maybe converting to even more sexual pheromones i.e. similar to LaCroy secrets
etc. (though i don\'t think he mentioned lacroy)
I only recall it being mentioned once in relation to applying in
armpits, crotch etc.
Well, the stuff is going
back and forth, but I am not sure if it is pheros to pheros or pheros to useless
stuff
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Well, the stuff is going back and forth, but I am not sure if it is pheros to
pheros or pheros to useless
stuff
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Since sweat pH is a
factor, then it does make sense that diet affects how these pheromones act.
Sagacious1420
03-12-2004, 07:41 PM
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I think it may be some confusion of newer forum
members more than anything.
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I think you may be right, SRH.
I\'ve been catching up on some of the more recent threads, as I\'ve been away for a while, and have noticed some
\"interesting\" posts from some newbs lately. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Sexyredhead
03-13-2004, 05:29 AM
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I think you may be right, SRH.
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Sagacious1420
03-13-2004, 02:04 PM
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I think you may be right, SRH.
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DrSmellThis
03-13-2004, 02:07 PM
there was an
article in my phero references thread a while back. It said the mones convert back and forth to some degree, but
mostly in the direction of breaking down to simpler -mones, especially -none. But if you start out with -none only,
you\'ll end up with less -none and more other things.
So you can see that what mones you apply only
determines starting levels, but skin conditions ultimately determine your \"equilibreum\" phero profile.
DrSmellThis
03-13-2004, 02:09 PM
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DrSmellThis has mentioned in the past about -none
maybe converting to even more sexual pheromones i.e. similar to LaCroy secrets etc. (though i don\'t think he
mentioned lacroy)
I only recall it being mentioned once in relation to applying in armpits, crotch etc.
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Those comments of mine were about -nol, which is found in sweat, but
hardly at all on smelly or sexual body areas (unlike A1 and -none). -Nol gets produced there, but converts to other
things. This is why I always put a small amount of -nol (and -rone, for that matter) on these areas, to take
advantage of conversions and maximize the variety of likely pheromones on my skin without OD\'ing on the smelly
chemicals that -nol breaks down to (which seem on me to exist in the highest levels on my forearms.) Most of the
-nol should convert, so I don\'t even think of it as applying -nol, really.
Gawd, I\'ve analyzed this
pheromone thing to death! But once I get good \"hygiene\" habits, I sort of forget about them.
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there was an articly in my phero references thread a while back. It said the
mones convert back and forth to some degree.
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Isn\'t that the
one I linked to earlier in this thread? Or is there another one?
DrSmellThis
03-13-2004, 02:14 PM
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there was an articly in my phero references thread a while back. It said the
mones convert back and forth to some degree.
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Isn\'t that the
one I linked to earlier in this thread? Or is there another one?
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That was the one! Good find!
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