Well i went out tonight and no luck :( [Archive]

Chris_23

03-05-2004, 10:59 PM

Well i wouldnt really say this was gong out but my friends called up and wanted me to go to the strip club with

them so i did.I had my mones on and didnt seem like nothing diffrent happen but i guess they dont work on strippers

heh.I just have doults this stuff does anything.I had like 3 drops of ae and 3 drops of Noa and like a little of soe

on out of the pack.Ididnt put much od the soe on because i didnt know how much to put on.Maybe ill have better luck

next time.

Bottle

03-06-2004, 03:49 AM

I think in a strip club that maybe really friendly -mones would be thing to go for, nothing else. The

Girls are prob used to all this testo and men acting/feeling like alpha\'s (although they are not). And pay

attention to what they talk about rather than that they are talking to you, afterall its their job to give you hits,

so you need to look at it more subtle.

just my thoughts on it

pico

03-06-2004, 04:04 AM

3 drops NPA is quite a lot... try 3 drops AE and 1 drop NPA diluted in a little water. 1 drop NPA is much more

effective IMHO.

Icarus

03-06-2004, 04:05 AM

Don\'t go to strip clubs

Steve

ToBeOrNotToBe

03-06-2004, 04:23 AM

I think the problem with many of us (including myself some months ago) is that we use a huge ammount of

mones, when just a little bit is enough. I often get reactions with 2 dabs of Edge Heat and 1 drop of AE (covered

with Rochas Man now... thanks Elana). Whenever I use something like 3 drops of AE and 4 or 5 dabs of TE or 2 dabs of

NPA, I usually don\'t get any results, at least reactions that I notice.

Something that usually brings me some

reactions is SoE gel pack, half of it. Women ask me what cologne I am wearing and say I smell good and bla bla bla.

Elana

03-06-2004, 06:27 AM

Let\'s try this again for the 108th time.

Strippers want your $$$.
They are working.
They are not interested

in you.
They are not going to be interested in you.
They want what is in your wallet not your boxers.

EXIT63

03-06-2004, 06:52 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Let\'s try this again for the 108th

time.

Strippers want your $$$.
They are working.
They are not interested in you.
They are not going to be

interested in you.
They want what is in your wallet not your boxers.

<hr /></blockquote>

I agree completely. But it doesn\'t mean you can\'t get \"hits\". You just have to know

what to look for.

bjf

03-06-2004, 07:22 AM

Chris, you ued way to f(&**()*(&en much.

Take the bottle dropper off that NPA. At most use three dabs

of it (but not with any more none, so cut out the AE). You can just add some SOE to that.

If you want to use AE

then cut down on the NPA, and don\'t use more than 2 drops or whatever if you are going to be dabbing npa

too.

You are best served trying NPA out alone (with SOE) and getting your dosage right with that, and then trying

AE alone and figuring out your dosage with that.

tounge

03-06-2004, 07:47 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Let\'s try this again for the 108th

time.Strippers want your $$$.They are working.They are not interested in you.They are not going to be interested in

you.They want what is in your wallet not your boxers.

<hr /></blockquote> Dawlin, I

think it has only been 107 times. But it is still a very good public service to the young men of the world.

CptKipling

03-06-2004, 08:24 AM

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Don\'t go to strip clubs

Steve

<hr /></blockquote>

Amen.

A couple of my friends went to a trip club recently, some

of them spent around £100 (about $200). To me, that sounds like a huge waste of money. I had to laugh though,

because a two of them were bragging that the girls really liked them. Guess which two spent the most

money?

Besides, you get more at some regular clubs for free /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Numanoid

03-06-2004, 09:14 AM

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Besides, you get more at some regular

clubs for free

<hr /></blockquote>

So true. I was one of those suckers years

ago...thinking the more money I gave them the more they\'d like me. But I never spent two hundred

bucks...that\'s just ridiculous.
I made out with a cute girl the first time I went to a goth club. Didn\'t

cost me a dime.

bjf

03-06-2004, 09:19 AM

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<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Besides, you get more at some regular clubs for free

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/></blockquote>

So true. I was one of those suckers years ago...thinking the more

money I gave them the more they\'d like me. But I never spent two hundred bucks...that\'s just ridiculous.
I

made out with a cute girl the first time I went to a goth club. Didn\'t cost me a dime.

<hr

/></blockquote>

Yo, watch out for those female bartenders, the only difference between

them and strippers is they keep their clothes on. They don\'t try and flirt too much where I live thank god, but

they are shiesters in other places in the States.

I can\'t say I blame them though.

jono5000

03-06-2004, 10:34 AM

I went to one a while ago, got a private dance, and after the stripper had been grinding me knee and

crotch and what not, i could have sworn my trouser legs felt a bit damp.

Another stripper refused to dance for

me, said that \'maybe u should find another girl to dance for u\' which i thought was really odd

was wearing

a couple dabs of te back then

OCP

03-06-2004, 10:35 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Don\'t go to strip clubs

Steve

<hr

/></blockquote>

Why not? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

OCP

03-06-2004, 10:37 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Let\'s try this again for the 108th

time.

Strippers want your $$$.
They are working.
They are not interested in you.
They are not going to be

interested in you.
They want what is in your wallet not your boxers.

<hr /></blockquote>

Stated very well and every man needs to understand this.

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EXIT63

03-06-2004, 10:38 AM

It\'s all good fun.

Elana

03-06-2004, 10:44 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
i could have sworn my trouser legs felt a bit

damp.

<hr /></blockquote>

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/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif This is too

funny. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Yes, she was so excited dancing for you that she was

dripping wet.

Are we going to have to make it 109 times? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

Bottle

03-06-2004, 10:45 AM

maybe it was sweat

OCP

03-06-2004, 10:47 AM

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i could have sworn my trouser legs felt a bit damp.

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/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif This is too

funny. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Yes, she was so excited dancing for you that she was

dripping wet.

Are we going to have to make it 109 times? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

<hr

/></blockquote>

Some guys never learn and that is why they walk away with empty wallets.

It is much preferable to string the little biatches along with a dollar here and a dollar there!

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Elana

03-06-2004, 10:49 AM

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i could

have sworn my trouser legs felt a bit damp.

<hr /></blockquote>

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/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif This is too funny.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Yes, she was so excited dancing for you that she was

dripping wet.

Are we going to have to make it 109 times? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

<hr

/></blockquote>

Some guys never learn and that is why they walk away with empty

wallets. It is much preferable to string the little biatches along with a dollar here and a dollar there!

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

<hr /></blockquote>

been there,

done that. I milked your sex out of thousands of $$$. I made every guy think that he was special....he was the one.

It worked too well. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

bjf

03-06-2004, 10:52 AM

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<blockquote>Quote:<hr />

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i could have sworn my trouser legs felt a bit

damp.

<hr /></blockquote>

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif This is too

funny. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Yes, she was so excited dancing for you that she was

dripping wet.

Are we going to have to make it 109 times? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

<hr

/></blockquote>

Some guys never learn and that is why they walk away with empty wallets.

It is much preferable to string the little biatches along with a dollar here and a dollar there!

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

<hr /></blockquote>

been there,

done that. I milked your sex out of thousands of $$$. I made every guy think that he was special....he was the one.

It worked too well. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

<hr /></blockquote>

LOL, I am sure there were some guys who you did think were special.

Elana

03-06-2004, 10:55 AM

Nope....I took a phone number and actually called just one time with a guy I met at a bachelor party. We dated for

a few months. That was out of almost 10 years of being in the business.

bjf

03-06-2004, 10:56 AM

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Nope....I took a phone number and actually called

just one time with a guy I met at a bachelor party. We dated for a few months. That was out of almost 10 years of

being in the business.

<hr /></blockquote>

Yea, but you were digging plenty of the

hot young studs.

You enjoyed some of those guys at least half as much as they enjoyed you.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Elana

03-06-2004, 11:02 AM

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Yea, but you were digging plenty of the hot

young studs.

<hr /></blockquote>

I didn\'t even notice them. I danced for every

fraternity on my campus. I am telling you, none of us ever hooked up. We were working and that\'s all we were

doing. It was all about the $$$$.

Pancho1188

03-06-2004, 11:04 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Let\'s try this again for the 108th

time.

Strippers want your $$$.
They are working.
They are not interested in you.
They are not going to be

interested in you.
They want what is in your wallet not your boxers.

<hr /></blockquote>

But I thought she really liked me...she told me how handsome I was and how nice of a guy I

seemed to be...why would she say such a thing if she didn\'t like me...

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Seriously, though, I\'ve never been to a strip club

because I hate the \"bad\" kind of teasing more than anything else in the world. I mean, someone teasing you when

they know you have no chance in hell of getting any is just wrong IMHO...

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif and $200 in one of those places?!?!? Hell, some women will

actually have sex with you for $200, and if you go out on a date with someone and spend that much money on them,

there\'s also a decent chance they\'re going to have sex with you...come on...use your money

wisely... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Pancho1188

03-06-2004, 11:07 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Yea, but you were digging plenty of the hot young studs.

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/></blockquote>

I didn\'t even notice them. I danced for every fraternity on my campus.

I am telling you, none of us ever hooked up. We were working and that\'s all we were doing. It was all about the

$$$$.

<hr /></blockquote>

Yeah, didn\'t you know that Elana digs the nice guys she

meets in libraries, grocery stores, the mall, or large get-togethers with friends... (every man gets up and starts

to bolt to one of these locations) Wait, wait, wait...before you go, I was just kidding. I don\'t know anything

about women...that\'s why I\'m here. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif Didn\'t you know that?

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Kari

03-06-2004, 11:08 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Let\'s try this again for the 108th

time.

Strippers want your $$$.
They are working.
They are not interested in you.
They are not going to be

interested in you.
They want what is in your wallet not your boxers.

<hr /></blockquote>

And that also goes for bellydancers. I never ONCE dated a member of the audience. Because: 1) I

was working, not socializing, and more importantly, 2) any man who is interested in my stage character, Anbreen,

isn\'t going to be that interested in Kari. The stage character goes into the dance bag, right after the set.

Pancho1188

03-06-2004, 11:09 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Let\'s try this again for the 108th time.

Strippers want your $$$.
They

are working.
They are not interested in you.
They are not going to be interested in you.
They want what is in

your wallet not your boxers.

<hr /></blockquote>

And that also goes for

bellydancers. I never ONCE dated a member of the audience. Because: 1) I was working, not socializing, and more

importantly, 2) any man who is interested in my stage character, Anbreen, isn\'t going to be that interested in

Kari. The stage character goes into the dance bag, right after the set.

<hr /></blockquote>

Wow, that\'s very informative. How do I get a private session with Kari, then?

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Kari

03-06-2004, 11:11 AM

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<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
i could have sworn my trouser legs felt a bit damp.

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/></blockquote>

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif This is too

funny. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Yes, she was so excited dancing for you that she was

dripping wet.

Are we going to have to make it 109 times? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

<hr

/></blockquote>

Some guys never learn and that is why they walk away with empty wallets.

It is much preferable to string the little biatches along with a dollar here and a dollar there!

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

<hr /></blockquote>

been there,

done that. I milked your sex out of thousands of $$$. I made every guy think that he was special....he was the one.

It worked too well. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

<hr /></blockquote>

LOL, I am sure there were some guys who you did think were special.

<hr

/></blockquote>

And, as long as the guy knows that it\'s just play... where\'s the

harm?

bjf

03-06-2004, 11:13 AM

Well when I would dance for the sororities, I always ended up hooking up.

Kari

03-06-2004, 11:17 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
maybe it was sweat

<hr /></blockquote>

It probably was sweat. I know when I was dancing, I was concentrating on the moves, NOT on the

look os the guys in the audience. After the set, I couldn\'t have described a single audience member.

Elana

03-06-2004, 11:17 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
After the set, I couldn\'t have described a

single audience member.

<hr /></blockquote>
Exactly

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DrSmellThis

03-06-2004, 12:14 PM

I think Elana is right about the \"fooling you guys\" part. (I wonder if not caring about the

customers, and being able to tell yourself that, is part of the power aspect of it?) Hungry-souled guys with a

hard-on and a muse are pretty gullible, as women have known since God was young. Strippers, when they are working,

are just working. The only time I\'ve really received a \"hit\" from a stripper on the job (except when I dated

one and had to meet her at work) was when I was wearing a perfume that contained heavy animal musks, sitting at the

bar away from the floor area. The woman just kept raving about my smell, burying her nose in me. I didn\'t

interpret this as her wanting to do me, but I did interpret it as someone being favorably affected by my smell,

since her comments were so specific to that.

There are more strippers per capita where I live than any city

in the US. Clubs with dancers are like coffee shops here. So I\'ve known plenty as friends/aquaintances, and

messed with a few (but not meeting them on their job). I won\'t go see the ones I know dance. Maybe it\'s

unnecessary to think this way, but I feel like I want to \"preserve something\", and will not lower myself (and

our relationship) to being a customer for them. And as much as I like and appreciate strippers as people for their

open-mindedness and comfort with their sexuality, I have personally found relating to them outside of work to

be disturbing; precisely because they are so good at lying with their eyes. Talk about a head f-ck! I

really rely on eye contact as a form of honest communication; as a way to have a little genuine humanness with

people. It\'s a relic of my midwest heritage. But so far most of them have had the knack of being full of shi-t

with their eyes, when they\'re not working, and to me that\'s messin\' with something \"sacred\". I

don\'t know what Elana thinks about this, but I have talked to several dancers about this, and so far no one

disagreed that it was a phenomenon. To me it\'s a form of job-related psychological injury, that strippers

partially do to themselves to cope, and it makes me sad. It\'s like the actor that can\'t stop acting. This

acting was helping sad, lonely men to kid themselves about a truth that should likely have made them feel sadder and

lonlier.

So I have to be in sort of a rare, \"Charles Bukowski mood\" to go to a strip club, wanting to

drink whiskey with beer chasers, write cynical poetry, and experience \"seedy Americana\". Strip clubs, with all

the soul-hunger, are kind of sad places, but that can be interesting. Watching the background entertainment, except

by occasional glance, is sort of a waste to me, since I\'m used to public nudity, so I throw a reasonable tip on

the stage when I first walk in, and then go drink, play pool, or chat with a bartender/friend.

Chris_23

03-06-2004, 12:14 PM

It was something to do so i went and did it.I wasnt going to the strip club to hook u,Im just saying i

didnt see any hits.I notice that night my friend was saying he was gone to jump on this black boy because he was

talking [censored].I never heard the boy say anything but my friend was drunk tho.I dont know if the mones and

anything to do in that or not but it was funny.

Watcher

03-06-2004, 12:22 PM

This has been explored but the majority of hits (95%) are a new class (existing) of female reaction

that is interested but not interested sexually - women need to practice their flirting skills so if they find an

attractive guy they will flirt but not be looking for sex - just a reaction to make them feel good. Sexually

motivated hits - they go quite and other more indepth body language goes on and they actually stick aroudn to chat

you up instead of the hit and run gurellia flirt tactics where they want the flirt but not the common so they flee

lol.

That might be why no luck ? no sexual luck - lots of hits and DIHL type but no sex!!!

Elana

03-06-2004, 12:24 PM

That was a very good post, DST.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
I have

personally found relating to them outside of work to be disturbing;

<hr /></blockquote>

I didn\'t see that in my atmosphere, but we didn\'t work in the typical club scene. We were all a bunch of

nice college girls making a lot of money.

For the record, I have been with women at male strip clubs that have

fallen for the same game. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Pancho1188

03-06-2004, 12:24 PM

Wow, that was deep,

man. I feel you. Being able to lie with your eyes is a gift and a curse. I wouldn\'t want to be with someone

who could lie to my face without even flinching. Good post, man.

Kari

03-06-2004, 12:58 PM

And as much as I like and appreciate strippers as people for their open-mindedness and comfort with their

sexuality, I have personally found relating to them outside of work to be disturbing; precisely

because they are so good at lying with their eyes. Talk about a head f-ck! I really rely on eye contact as a

form of honest communication; as a way to have a little genuine humanness with people. It\'s a relic of my midwest

heritage. But so far most of them have had the knack of being full of shi-t with their eyes, when they\'re not

working, and to me that\'s messin\' with something \"sacred\". I don\'t know what Elana thinks about

this, but I have talked to several dancers about this, and so far no one disagreed that it was a phenomenon. To me

it\'s a form of job-related psychological injury, that strippers partially do to themselves to cope, and it makes

me sad. It\'s like the actor that can\'t stop acting. This acting was helping sad, lonely men to kid themselves

about a truth that should likely have made them feel sadder and lonlier.

I don\'t agree with all of that you

have said. I have several friends who are, or have been strippers. The ones I know are just as genuine and human in

their feelings and their verbal and non-verbal communications as are people of other occupations.

With my

stripper friends, as with the bellydancers and other entertainers with whom I worked, it\'s a matter of being in

or out of character. One might be a seductress on stage, and whomever else one is off stage. I imagine there are

entertaners who cannot get out of character, but I don\'t know any. I do know some who are \"damaged\" and some

who are healthier-- like any other people on the streets.

I also don\'t agree with your statement re: \"Not

caring about the customers.\" One DOES care, in that one cares to give them as good a performance as one can.

It\'s a job. When people have come out of their homes to be entertained, they deserve to be entertained. They are

paying to be entertained. It\'s not all about power-- it\'s also about executing an excellent performance

(though, creating a believable stage character is certainly a position of power).

As for the \"sad and

lonely\" attendees-- I imagine some are so. Others are just there to enjoy a performance. It\'s fun. It\'s

escape. They leave having had a good time, and feeling good. Some might be afficionados who have an educated eye to

movement and costuming.

Finally-- during a performance one doesn\'t really have the time or inclination to

focus on who might be sitting out there. One is focused on the costumes and props (like veils or swords for

bellydancers), on the \"feel\" of the music, the use of space, the technical execution of movements. Bellydancers

often work with live musicians, who actually PLAY what she\'s DOING (rather than having her dance to what he\'s

playing) -- so there\'s constant invisible communication going on between the dancer and the musicians. There\'s

alot more to the performance than what is readily visible to the audience.

Just my dimes worth.

DrSmellThis

03-06-2004, 01:05 PM

To me bellydancing is different, and I didn\'t mean to talk about it. I know there are exceptions,

and that was just my experience. Thanks for your thoughtful post, Kari.

Kari

03-06-2004, 01:08 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
To me bellydancing is different, and I didn\'t

mean to talk about it. I know there are exceptions, and that was just my experience. Thanks for your thoughtful

post, Kari.

<hr /></blockquote>

Bellydancing is definately very different. But, I

have seen in my social arena that strippers are not necessarily damaged or artificial.

Thanks, honey!

Elana

03-06-2004, 01:09 PM

Going by the people that I have known I would have to agree with Kari that it was a character onstage and then a

normal and sincere person in the real word.

OCP

03-06-2004, 01:40 PM

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There are more strippers per capita where I live

than any city in the US. Clubs with dancers are like coffee shops here.

<hr /></blockquote>

Portland Oregon is truely the strip club capital of the world. One on every corner.

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Pancho1188

03-06-2004, 02:48 PM

Some attendees are married men... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

MOBLEYC57

03-06-2004, 04:52 PM

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i could have sworn my trouser legs felt a bit

damp.

<hr /></blockquote>

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/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif This is too

funny. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Yes, she was so excited dancing for you that she was

dripping wet.

Are we going to have to make it 109 times? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

<hr

/></blockquote>

Some guys never learn and that is why they walk away with empty wallets.

It is much preferable to string the little biatches along with a dollar here and a dollar there!

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

<hr /></blockquote>

been there,

done that. I milked your sex out of thousands of $$$. I made every guy think that he was special....he was the one.

It worked too well. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

<hr /></blockquote>

Yall betta listen to Lady El! It depends on the dancer...there are some exceptions. I danced

from about 1983 until late 1990s, and I only slept with ONE woman, and that was because I knew/wanted her before I

won my first male dancing strip-off. But only ONE, the rest...baby showers, private dances, birthdays, yudder

yudder yudder....not one. Women are just as bad as the men... always calling to set up private dances,

waiting/hoping/ wanting/wishing that I would finally give in.........not! The more I said NO, the more appointments

I got. Can you say, \"Who\'s gonna be the first one he sleeps with!?\" Ha! T\'was about getting P A I D,

not L A I D. Goooooooooood money! Business money! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif Something

about seeing a naked lady that I can\'t taste/touch/pound, that just doesn\'t do it for me, but that\'s just

me. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif But if you have nothing better to do, and lots of dollars to

give away...I guess alcohol and naked ladies could be somewhat entertaining.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif Let me see you get low!!!!

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif Hats off ta ya Lady El!

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Gotta a dollar I can borrow?

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DrSmellThis

03-06-2004, 06:14 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />

There are more strippers per capita where I live than any city in the US.

Clubs with dancers are like coffee shops here.

<hr /></blockquote>
Portland Oregon is truely the strip club capital of the world. One on every corner.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

<hr /></blockquote>...more than

L.A., New Orleans, or NYC, per capita. So maybe I should have said \"strip club capital of the

world\". But I was thinking Amsterdam might have more. You may well not know this, but the sex industry is huge

here. This aspect of our culture is a primary reason I was able to get into pheromones so long ago, relatively

speaking.

franki

03-07-2004, 02:48 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
But I was thinking Amsterdam might have more.

<hr /></blockquote>

Amsterdam has a lot of hookers, but not that many stripclubs..

EXIT63

03-07-2004, 04:20 AM

It\'s all good fun. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Bottle

03-07-2004, 04:43 AM

however Stripping(the lap/pole club dancing sort) was invented in Canada

Numanoid

03-07-2004, 06:49 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
It\'s all good fun.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

<hr /></blockquote>

There is a

downside to all the so called fun. I\'ve known girls who stripped and one said she and some of the other girls

she danced with could only do it when drunk or coked up...which led to addictions. Night after night of doing lap

dances and having guys say vulgar degrading things to them also had a negative effect. Made the girls very cynical

about all men.

Numanoid

03-07-2004, 06:54 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
The only time I\'ve really received

a \"hit\" from a stripper on the job (except when I dated one and had to meet her at work) was when I was wearing

a perfume that contained heavy animal musks,

<hr /></blockquote>

Just out of

curiosity what cologne were you wearing Dr.?

Kari

03-07-2004, 10:50 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
however Stripping(the lap/pole club dancing sort)

was invented in Canada

<hr /></blockquote>

Pole dancing is, BTW, a WONDERFUL physical

regimen.

CJ01

03-07-2004, 11:38 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Some attendees are married men...

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

<hr /></blockquote> at strip shows and

brothels alike /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Bottle

03-07-2004, 12:00 PM

hmm well its a mate of mines birthday next Sat, so guess what...we\'re going out on the piss and i

quote him \" prob end up at a titty bar \"

OCP

03-07-2004, 02:06 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Some attendees are married men...

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

<hr /></blockquote> at strip shows and

brothels alike /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

<hr /></blockquote>

Duh!

DrSmellThis

03-07-2004, 02:07 PM

It was a very powerful pheromone cologne that was custom designed for a friend of mine and myself. It

is not available any more, unfortunately. Doubtlessly, the closest existing equivalent by smell and effect is called

\"Animal\", (not the popular commercial cologne, which doesn\'t deserve to have that traditional name) which was

an ancient occult scent, heavy in musks, revitalized in the late 1800\'s by one A. Crowley. I still wear Animal

sometimes. It is available in Oregon at a couple of specialty retail shops, originally made by the same custom

pefumer. CrimsonPhoenix, who I\'ve talked about before, (I won\'t post a link) might have it.

Numanoid

03-07-2004, 02:39 PM

Found it.
Thanks.

ToBeOrNotToBe

03-07-2004, 03:11 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Found it.
Thanks.

<hr

/></blockquote>

Where? PM me please.

Kari

03-07-2004, 04:42 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
It was a very powerful pheromone cologne that was

custom designed for a friend of mine and myself. It is not available any more, unfortunately. Doubtlessly, the

closest existing equivalent by smell and effect is called \"Animal\", (not the popular commercial cologne, which

doesn\'t deserve to have that traditional name) which was an ancient occult scent, heavy in musks, revitalized in

the late 1800\'s by one A. Crowley. I still wear Animal sometimes. It is available in Oregon at a couple of

specialty retail shops, originally made by the same custom pefumer. CrimsonPhoenix, who I\'ve talked about before,

(I won\'t post a link) might have it.

<hr /></blockquote>

REALLY!? Aleister

Crowley? Interesting!

Kari

03-07-2004, 04:44 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Some attendees are married men...

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

<hr /></blockquote> at strip shows and

brothels alike /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

<hr /></blockquote>

Mm-hum! That\'s how a female patient, on my caseload, got HIV.

Her husband brought it home.

OCP

03-07-2004, 07:27 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Some

attendees are married men... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

<hr /></blockquote> at strip shows and brothels alike /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

<hr /></blockquote>

Mm-hum!

That\'s how a female patient, on my caseload, got HIV. Her husband brought it home.

<hr /></blockquote>

Oh, that sucks! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

EXIT63

03-08-2004, 04:54 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
It\'s all good fun. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

<hr /></blockquote>

There is a downside to all the so called fun. I\'ve known

girls who stripped and one said she and some of the other girls she danced with could only do it when drunk or coked

up...which led to addictions. Night after night of doing lap dances and having guys say vulgar degrading things to

them also had a negative effect. Made the girls very cynical about all men.

<hr /></blockquote>

I meant for the guys. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

EXIT63

03-08-2004, 04:56 AM

Does Jimmy Page still own Aleister Crowleys house on the shore of Loch Ness?

CJ01

03-08-2004, 09:53 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
REALLY!? Aleister Crowley? Interesting!

<hr

/></blockquote> Crowley, wicked /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Rakesh

03-08-2004, 12:38 PM

If I owned it, I would probably rent it out to people (I\'m sure there\'s enough people ready to

spend insane money on that). Crowley had a very original sense of humour and there\'s no telling what he managed

to do to the house before dying /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

DrSmellThis

03-08-2004, 02:14 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Does Jimmy Page still own Aleister

Crowleys house on the shore of Loch Ness?

<hr /></blockquote>
Good question.

Sacogoo

03-08-2004, 09:35 PM

Elana writes:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
been there, done that.

I milked your sex out of thousands of $$$. I made every guy think that he was special....he was the one. It worked

too well.

<hr /></blockquote>

Ah, the fond memories of the Paradise Club in Las Vegas

come floating back to me. (At least the fond memories that I\'m capable of recalling. It\'s amazing the

attention that $600 in twenties can get you in the course of an hour in a top flight strip club. Yeah, they

ain\'t going home with you (however, there was that time in Columbus, GA that the blonde stripper asked you to

wait for her after the club closed and the time in Junction City, KS where you got molested by the drunk stripper,

and the time in Ft. Lauderdale at the Platinum Club where...but I digress), but it\'s nice to watch every guy in

the club get pissed as the shot girl, the hostess, and three strippers fawn at you. However, it is equally amusing

to watch them dissapate into vapor once that last dollar is gone. However, on the very few occasions that I have

attended a gentleman\'s club, I have been there as an appreciator of the human art form rather than attempting to

fullfil any type of perverse visual sexual gratification.

But, Elana is correct. Guys are retards when they have

a gorgeous naked woman standing right in front of them. You want the deed to my house? Sure, and take my car keys

too.

Sacogoo

03-08-2004, 09:42 PM

bjf writes:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Well when I would dance

for the sororities, I always ended up hooking up.

<hr /></blockquote>

Weird.

Whenever I danced for the sororities, I usually got a free overnight stay courtesy of the county. However, when I

danced for the sororities, I was usually buck naked, drunk as a monkey, standing on their front lawn at 3 a.m.

OCP

03-08-2004, 09:47 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Elana writes:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
been there, done that. I milked your sex out of thousands of $$$. I made

every guy think that he was special....he was the one. It worked too well.

<hr /></blockquote>

Ah, the fond memories of the Paradise Club in Las Vegas come floating back to me. (At least

the fond memories that I\'m capable of recalling. It\'s amazing the attention that $600 in twenties can get you

in the course of an hour in a top flight strip club. Yeah, they ain\'t going home with you (however, there was

that time in Columbus, GA that the blonde stripper asked you to wait for her after the club closed and the time in

Junction City, KS where you got molested by the drunk stripper, and the time in Ft. Lauderdale at the Platinum Club

where...but I digress), but it\'s nice to watch every guy in the club get pissed as the shot girl, the hostess,

and three strippers fawn at you. However, it is equally amusing to watch them dissapate into vapor once that last

dollar is gone. However, on the very few occasions that I have attended a gentleman\'s club, I have been there as

an appreciator of the human art form rather than attempting to fullfil any type of perverse visual sexual

gratification.

But, Elana is correct. Guys are retards when they have a gorgeous naked woman standing right in

front of them. You want the deed to my house? Sure, and take my car keys too.

<hr /></blockquote>

One of my favorite pastimes istoo go to a strip club and \" promise\" each dancer I will do a

lap dance and watch them fight over me. Of course, I am not going to give any of them biatches any $$, but they do

not know that. It really is fun and they go to great lenghts to make sure they are the one to get he lap

dance....stupid chicks!

Sacogoo

03-08-2004, 10:02 PM

OCP writes:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
One of my favorite

pastimes istoo go to a strip club and \" promise\" each dancer I will do a lap dance and watch them fight over me.

<hr /></blockquote>

What I\'m interested in seeing is OCP and tigereyes in a stud

off contest. Right now, I think that they are neck and neck, each with their own qualities keeping them in the

race. tigereyes with his refined, near feminine features versus OCP with his bulging beefcakedness. Weepy, insecure

doormat versus chauvanistic, woman hating meathead. A true battle of pheromone titans! Epic in every regard. Ali

versus Frazier? Wussy in comparison. Rommel versus Montgomery? Child\'s play. The Sneetches with Stars versus

Those That Have None? Ha! No comparison.

DrSmellThis

03-08-2004, 10:16 PM

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

apple

03-08-2004, 10:34 PM

*votes for the one who doesnt hate women, and is nice* :P

EXIT63

03-09-2004, 04:28 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
but I digress), but it\'s nice to watch every

guy in the club get pissed as the shot girl, the hostess, and three strippers fawn at you.

<hr

/></blockquote>

I agree wholeheatedly.

Shots and beers. $26
Girl on my lap

$14
Girl to the left $ 8
Girl to my right $ 6

The looks on the faces of the other jerks around the

bar...PRICELESS
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Disclaimer:

I\'m not talkin about \"My sh!t don\'t stink\" American broads with tits so fake you could go bowling with

them. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gifThese prices represent hot Russian and Ukranian girls in

a normal gogo bar in Jersey. Your local talent, prices, and results may vary.

Bottle

03-09-2004, 09:18 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
OCP writes:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
One of my favorite pastimes istoo go to a strip club and \" promise\" each

dancer I will do a lap dance and watch them fight over me.

<hr /></blockquote>

What

I\'m interested in seeing is OCP and tigereyes in a stud off contest. Right now, I think that they are neck and

neck, each with their own qualities keeping them in the race. tigereyes with his refined, near feminine features

versus OCP with his bulging beefcakedness. Weepy, insecure doormat versus chauvanistic, woman hating meathead. A

true battle of pheromone titans! Epic in every regard. Ali versus Frazier? Wussy in comparison. Rommel versus

Montgomery? Child\'s play. The Sneetches with Stars versus Those That Have None? Ha! No comparison.

<hr

/></blockquote>

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif LOL

OCP

03-09-2004, 03:01 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
*votes for the one who doesnt hate women, and is

nice* :P

<hr /></blockquote>

Define nice! I probably do not qualify, but I do not

hate women. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

DrSmellThis

03-09-2004, 03:08 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
*votes for the one who doesnt hate

women, and is nice* :P

<hr /></blockquote>
Don\'t make me come over there.