View Full Version : APC standalone suggestion?
Molasar
02-25-2004, 08:45 AM
Hello
guys;
Anyone have an idea as to what the \"recommended dose\" or \"useful dose\" or \"starting dose\"
(well, whatever.. ya know what I mean) might be for APC Double Strength? (I know it\'s still a weak
formula..)
Thanks
Gossamer_2701
02-25-2004, 10:35 AM
Put
on as much as you can without a scent OD /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Phantom
02-25-2004, 12:20 PM
Hey APC
was the first pheromonal product I ever used, back then it was no double strength.. lol that was when I was 14? I
would start with 3 dabs on the neck and 2 on each wrist rubbed together (at about 7AM). Then like at lunch time
(12PM, 5 hours later) I would put on 2 more dabs on my neck and 1 dab on each wrist.
I used to wonder why so many
people would stare at me (I did\'nt know what a DIHL was), I don\'t even know if L-S was even born back then (I
just turned 19, the 15th of feb) . I would get pretty good hits. I have\'nt worn it for a long time, but when I
put it on, it reminds me of the good o\'l days /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif.
oscar
02-25-2004, 12:37 PM
Molasar,
First of all, from what I\'ve been told the \"Double Strength\" claim on the large (1oz.) bottle of
APC is mostly BS. The 1/2 oz. bottle doesn\'t claim to be double strength, but both bottles supposedly have the
SAME concentration. The large bottle is only double the strength of the smaller one if you\'re using entire
bottles at one time! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Anyway, that\'s what I\'ve been
told.
Some APC sites claim there are 45 applications per 1 oz. bottle, so that would make one application @.66mL
which is a pretty hefty amount. If you used the 20 drops/mL \"rule\" that would come to 13.2 drops per
application!
The Phero Mix Calculator
http://pmixcalc.sysframe.net/pms.php (\"http://pmixcalc.sysframe.net/pms.php\")
says that 8 drops will
give you a regulation dose of .02mg of Androstenone. But I\'m not so sure that APC follows the 20 drop/mL
guideline that the calculator uses. APC might run more like 30 drops to the milliliter. Which would again put you up
between 12 and 13 drops for a .02mg A-None application. But YOU may not need a .02mg dose.
So play around with
application amounts. Shade it somewhere between 8 and 13 drops and see which end of the spectrum gives you the best
results. You might get good results with only 5 drops. Who knows? Your mileage may vary. Keep switching it up.
Sometimes less is more. You gotta play to win!
Oscar /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
yeah, APC is a
fragrance with some mones in so you´re likely to OD on the scent but not the mones that´s for sure. Scents should
be applied carefully, a hint of a scent is good, a whole load is bad. Less is better
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Molasar
02-25-2004, 01:28 PM
Sounds
ok...
So the bottom line here is that APC does work (that is, it does contain mones, so you\'re not fooling
yerself), but the concentration is small so you need more of it than you would another -mone product, like TE; just
not so much as to OD the scent.
That about correct?
That said, would ya say 2 drops is anything near
useful (besides just the fragrance)?
Thanks.
Molasar
02-25-2004, 01:34 PM
Oh,
BTW...
I saw some lab report on various sites saying APC has a 0.005% by weight concentration of -none as
opposed to something like PI, which has a 0.05% by weight concentration, making APC \"only\" 10x weaker than PI.
Does that sound about right? Most APC critics base their flames on the \"small text\" on the packaging, but the
lab report (on a site not actually favoring APC) says different.
Any opinions?
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Sounds ok...
So the bottom line here is that
APC does work (that is, it does contain mones, so you\'re not fooling yerself), but the concentration is small so
you need more of it than you would another -mone product, like TE; just not so much as to OD the scent.
That
about correct?
That said, would ya say 2 drops is anything near useful (besides just the
fragrance)?
Thanks.
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Jese, now I see why Oscar
doesn\'t post as much....did you even bother to read the thing?
Molasar
02-25-2004, 01:40 PM
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Jese, now I see why Oscar doesn\'t post as
much....did you even bother to read the thing?
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Sawee... was
actually writing with CJ01\'s reply in mind... my mistake...
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class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Jese, now I see why Oscar doesn\'t post as much....did you even bother to
read the thing?
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Sawee... was actually writing with CJ01\'s
reply in mind... my mistake...
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Its okay.
hehe
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So the bottom line here is that APC does work (that is, it does contain mones, so you\'re not fooling
yerself), but the concentration is small so you need more of it than you would another -mone product, like TE; just
not so much as to OD the scent.
That about correct?
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You could
try one of the old classic mixes : APC and NPA. what other products do you have to play with?
Sagacious1420
02-25-2004, 02:10 PM
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Molasar,
First of all, from what I\'ve been
told the \"Double Strength\" claim on the large (1oz.) bottle of APC is mostly BS. The 1/2 oz. bottle doesn\'t
claim to be double strength, but both bottles supposedly have the SAME concentration. The large bottle is only
double the strength of the smaller one if you\'re using entire bottles at one time!
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
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LOL!
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif That\'s about the size of it.
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Takes me at least 5-6 drops of APC standalone to get any
decent results. I\'ve used up to 10 w/ no problem...except for scent OD, that is. Then again, I\'m not a big
fan of the scent anyway, so even a 5-6 drop dose is unpleasant for me.
Molasar
02-25-2004, 02:31 PM
I have
APC, PI, 2 SoE gelpacks, and waiting for TE, AE and Pherone D-17x to arrive (couldn\'t resist the temptation)
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
So far I have only tried APC (two drops only) and went to the
supermarket. Nothing much, except I got let through the cashier line by 3 ladies shopping together (about 6-7/10)
and giggling a lot. That\'s about all.
Phantom
02-25-2004, 04:00 PM
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I have APC, PI, 2 SoE gelpacks, and waiting for TE,
AE and Pherone D-17x to arrive (couldn\'t resist the temptation)
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
So far I have only tried APC (two drops only) and went to the
supermarket. Nothing much, except I got let through the cashier line by 3 ladies shopping together (about 6-7/10)
and giggling a lot. That\'s about all.
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> I ordered 2 products from
http://www.phe**ne.com (\"http://www.phe**ne.com\") . I waited about a month and a 1/2 but nothing ever
came, so I did a chargeback.
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