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EXIT63
02-14-2004, 06:31 AM
Moscow

Zoo to Have TV Sets in Cages
02/13/2004 17:00
\"We want them to pick their noses less and think more

instead\"
Gorillas in the Moscow zoo will soon watch TV programs, zoo director Vladimir Spitsyn says. He adds that

a TV set will be put into the winter cage where a couple of gorillas live. The animals will be able to watch videos

about the life of monkeys in the wilderness. Vladimir Spitsyn thinks these programs are important for intellectual

progress of anthropoids.

The zoo director says much attention is paid to occupations of the gorillas. \"We want

them to pick their noses less and think more instead.\" At that, Vladimir Spitsyn tells that today the gorillas

work with special primitive devices for their own development. As similar experience of international zoos shows,

watching TV programs improves the psychological condition of animals. A TV set will be put into the cage this summer

when the animals spend more time outdoors.

Elana
02-14-2004, 06:33 AM
I

have a better idea. Let them out of the cages and put them back where they belong.

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F%&king TV????? WTF?

franki
02-14-2004, 06:34 AM
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The animals will be able to watch videos about the

life of monkeys in the wilderness.


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So what they are saying is

that they are watching porn. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

belgareth
02-14-2004, 06:42 AM
As bad as it seems, zoos are important for gorillas along with many other species such as the white tiger. There

are so many stupid bastards out there that think killing for fun and profit supercedes all other concerns. Zoos and

other wildlife refuges are the only hope to prevent their extinction. To help pay for their upkeep zoos charge

admission and our children get a chance to see and learn about our fellow creatures.

To lose such magnificent,

gentle creatures to poachers would be a terrible loss to all of us.

Elana
02-14-2004, 06:45 AM
It

depends what kind of zoo. The Miami Metro zoo is wonderful. They don\'t keep animals locked up in cages. They have

huge areas for the animals to roam around. They separate the animals and people with large motes

(sp?)

Locking an animal up in a 10 x 10 cage is criminal.

belgareth
02-14-2004, 06:49 AM
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It depends what kind of zoo. The Miami Metro zoo is

wonderful. They don\'t keep animals locked up in cages. They have huge areas for the animals to roam around. The

separate the animals and people with large motes (sp?)

Locking an animal up in a 10 x 10 cage is criminal.



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Your right. I was thinking along the same lines. The zoo here

has big open areas with elevated walkways. The animals get to run and play, the aviary is huge and the birds have

room to fly. The primates are in a climate controlled area so they are in the temps/humidity they are accustomed

to.

What really bothers me more than zoos are the circuses.

CptKipling
02-14-2004, 06:53 AM
Good zoos are definately a good thing.

There are often instances in good zoos where the animals have the

oportunity to escape but don\'t.

bjf
02-14-2004, 06:55 AM
I\'ve been to about six zoos or so, the only situations where the animals have had confined environments was

mostly birds and maybe some farm animals.

In one particular zoo there were actually a couple of animals that

seemed lonely though. I won\'t elaborate but I felt bad for them.

EXIT63
02-14-2004, 06:55 AM
Yeah, but do the have cable?

Kari
02-14-2004, 11:33 AM
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As bad as it seems, zoos are important for gorillas

along with many other species such as the white tiger. There are so many stupid bastards out there that think

killing for fun and profit supercedes all other concerns. Zoos and other wildlife refuges are the only hope to

prevent their extinction. To help pay for their upkeep zoos charge admission and our children get a chance to see

and learn about our fellow creatures.

To lose such magnificent, gentle creatures to poachers would be a terrible

loss to all of us.

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Yeah, to WORST are the \"hunting ranches\"

in Texas, and other places, where elderly retired zoo and circus animals are shot by fat-asses rich white guys. Dick

Cheney was caught at one-- he wasn\'t hunting jungle animals-- he was hunting game birds that were \"set up\"

for the kill. He killed over 40 of them.

I think those assholes should have their names and photos published in

the media.

On the other hand..... Koko, one of the gorillas that learned to communicate in American sign

language chose her companion from among videos of a number of gorillas. Um.... gorilla dating service?

Her

companion, Michael, was able to tell his handlers, in sign language, about the slaughter of his mother, in front of

his eyes, for meat, when he was a baby. It still affected him when he was an adult.

Kari
02-14-2004, 11:34 AM
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I\'ve been to about six zoos or so, the only

situations where the animals have had confined environments was mostly birds and maybe some farm animals.

In one

particular zoo there were actually a couple of animals that seemed lonely though. I won\'t elaborate but I felt

bad for them.

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The aviary at the San Diego zoo is HUGE. At least

there is a lot of area for the birds to fly in.,

Kari
02-14-2004, 11:35 AM
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Good zoos are definately a good thing.

There are

often instances in good zoos where the animals have the oportunity to escape but don\'t.

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Some of the zoos are also now employing animal behaviorists. They devise

games and enviornment to help keep the poor beasts from becoming bored.

Kari
02-14-2004, 11:37 AM
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It depends what kind of zoo. The Miami Metro zoo is

wonderful. They don\'t keep animals locked up in cages. They have huge areas for the animals to roam around. They

separate the animals and people with large motes (sp?)

Locking an animal up in a 10 x 10 cage is criminal.



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Moats. Yeah, the L.A. zoo has been having problems with gorillas

boosting eachother over the walls. So, they did the moats.

The moats also keep away the little monster kids, who

threw rocks at the gorillas, for awhile. Thise stopped wehn the gorillas started throwing back, er, whatever came to

hand.

Pancho1188
02-14-2004, 11:48 AM
Kramer: I stopped to look at the monkeys, when all of a sudden I am hit in the face with a banana peel.

I turn and look and there is this monkey really laughing it up. Then someone tells me that he did it. Well, I pick

up the banana peel and I wait for that monkey to turn around. And then I *whap* let him have it.

Jerry: Kramer,

you threw a banana peel at a monkey?

Kramer: Well, he started it!

Jerry: It\'s a monkey, Kramer!

Kramer:

Well, he pushed my buttons, I couldn\'t help it, Jerry.

Jerry: Well, I still think it\'s wrong.

Kramer:

Alright, alright, fine. You take the monkey\'s side, alright, go ahead.

belgareth
02-14-2004, 11:53 AM
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class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
As bad as it seems, zoos are important for gorillas along with many other

species such as the white tiger. There are so many stupid bastards out there that think killing for fun and profit

supercedes all other concerns. Zoos and other wildlife refuges are the only hope to prevent their extinction. To

help pay for their upkeep zoos charge admission and our children get a chance to see and learn about our fellow

creatures.

To lose such magnificent, gentle creatures to poachers would be a terrible loss to all of us.



<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Yeah, to WORST are the \"hunting ranches\" in Texas, and other

places, where elderly retired zoo and circus animals are shot by fat-asses rich white guys. Dick Cheney was caught

at one-- he wasn\'t hunting jungle animals-- he was hunting game birds that were \"set up\" for the kill. He

killed over 40 of them.

I think those assholes should have their names and photos published in the media.

On

the other hand..... Koko, one of the gorillas that learned to communicate in American sign language chose her

companion from among videos of a number of gorillas. Um.... gorilla dating service?

Her companion, Michael, was

able to tell his handlers, in sign language, about the slaughter of his mother, in front of his eyes, for meat, when

he was a baby. It still affected him when he was an adult.

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Yes

there are but they probably won\'t last much longer, I hope. One the other hand, there are also several animal

retirement homes here. Most notably is one for big cats, primarily tigers, that gives them room to roam and great

care. There is another one that the idiot politicians are trying to put out of business because suburbia has grown

around the farm. The sanctuary was there first and should have the right to remain but the greasy wheels don\'t

like it.

EXIT63
02-14-2004, 12:06 PM
Anyone see that show about the elephants? The one circus elephant got so bored in retirement that they had to

send him back to the circus. He was only happy when he was working. Setting up the tents and stuff.

Gossamer_2701
02-14-2004, 01:44 PM
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Her companion, Michael, was able to

tell his handlers, in sign language, about the slaughter of his mother, in front of his eyes, for meat, when he was

a baby. It still affected him when he was an adult.



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That is

so sad /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif The evil that men do... and obviously not just to

eachother. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif
Those poor animals have thoughts, feelings and

memories... unfortunately, 99% of them simply can\'t comunicate them.
I wish there were more sanctuaries for them

in this ever shrinking world.

Gossamer_2701
02-14-2004, 01:51 PM
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Dick Cheney was caught at one-- he

wasn\'t hunting jungle animals-- he was hunting game birds that were \"set up\" for the kill. He killed over 40

of them

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That dumba$$ Cheney.... It would be fitting if someone had

installed a remote controlled pacemaker.... so any red-blooded American could \'accidentally\' set it off with

their garage-door openers as he drove by. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Can ya tell how I feel

about Dub\'ya and the rest of those morons in the white house /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Gossamer_2701
02-14-2004, 01:57 PM
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Alright, alright, fine. You take the

monkey\'s side, alright, go ahead.


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Pancho... ya know I love

your quotes of those Seinfeld scenes /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif I can actually picture the

real thing as I read it word for word. Too bad the written word can\'t convey Kramer\'s facial expressions, body

movements, or that hilarious tone in his voice.... \"The cats ooouuuttt of the bag\"

I\'m still laughing.

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