Cologne [Archive] - Love-Scent Pheromones Forum

OCP

02-13-2004, 11:22 AM

I just read the old post regarding

colognes. Le Male seems to be huge (I will check it out).

What is your opinion of Ralph Lauren\'s new one

called \"Romance Silver\". I am thinking about getting a bottle. Also, has anyone used \"kiton\" (available

only at Nordstoms).

\"Angel\" for men is on my short list also. Interested in your thoughts.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

bundyburger

02-14-2004, 02:57 AM

\'Angel\' is

definetly a stand out that is noticed. lol It\'s great.
\'Cool Water\' is a good low key one it seems. For

me at least.

I\'ve been hearing good stuff about \'le male\' recently in Oz. Knew about it through the

forum, but it never made waves here until recently. I don\'t have it. Yet. Got too many I think now as it is.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Numanoid

02-14-2004, 05:27 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
I just read the old post regarding colognes. Le Male seems to be huge (I

will check it out).

What is your opinion of Ralph Lauren\'s new one called \"Romance Silver\". I am

thinking about getting a bottle. Also, has anyone used \"kiton\" (available only at Nordstoms).

\"Angel\" for men is on my short list also. Interested in your thoughts.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

<hr /></blockquote>

Angel

Amen certainly is a good one. Makes one smell edible and is probably the longest lasting cologne that I\'ve ever

worn.

Here are some other colognes I recommend and you may want to try -
Spark by Liz Claiborne
Kouros

by Yves St Laurent
Diesel Zero Plus
Gendarme - Been using this one off and on for years...I use it for mostly

romantic evenings because the scent is light. Women love this one on me

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Elana

02-14-2004, 06:02 AM

Another vote for Angel for

Men.
My new favorite men\'s cologne is Rochas. If any of you guys have a Sephora around you, go in and sample

some. It\'s outrageously yummy.

bjf

02-14-2004, 06:34 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Another vote for Angel for Men.
My new favorite men\'s cologne is Rochas.

If any of you guys have a Sephora around you, go in and sample some. It\'s outrageously yummy.

<hr

/></blockquote>

I have one five blocks or so from me, will have to check it out.

As for

Angel, I have it too. Last night I sprayed one spray into a plastic teaspoon that was shaped as a half-sphere.

Then I added a FO called Lover\'s Moon (blend of gardernia and white musk) from Auric Blends. Mind you it was

just one drop.

To my surprise, the thing smelled so much like Strawberries with that combo!!!

It was the

strangest thing to ever happen to me that day.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Sagacious1420

02-14-2004, 08:01 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Another vote for Angel for Men.
My new favorite

men\'s cologne is Rochas. If any of you guys have a Sephora around you, go in and sample some. It\'s

outrageously yummy.

<hr /></blockquote>Knowing a little about your taste in men\'s

colognes, I\'m not surprised that you like Rochas Man. I\'d consider them to be in the same class, but I kinda

think Rochas Man seems more sophisticated or refined. If I were to get a new cologne I\'d go for Rochas. I may

have a link that offers samples or minis of Rochas, not sure which. I\'ll check on that.

Elana

02-15-2004, 04:59 PM

I am glad that someone else

has discovered it. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
If you guys can get your hands on a sample

you really should check it out. It is better than Le Male.

OCP

02-15-2004, 05:03 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
I am glad that someone else has discovered it.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
If you guys can get your hands on a sample you really should

check it out. It is better than Le Male.

<hr /></blockquote>

Elana, do you really

like anything better than \"Le Male\"? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Elana

02-15-2004, 05:03 PM

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Let me rephrase...it is better than the cologne called Le Male.

Bottle

02-15-2004, 05:04 PM

I\'m gonna be covering

with

Isse Miakee [ spelling ]

cos I\'m dope /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

LOL

Elana

02-15-2004, 05:05 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
I\'m gonna be covering with

Isse Miakee [ spelling ]

cos I\'m

dope /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif LOL

<hr /></blockquote>

Isaac

Mizrahi? You sure butchered his name. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Bottle

02-15-2004, 05:13 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
I\'m gonna

be covering with

Isse Miakee [ spelling ]

cos I\'m dope

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif LOL

<hr /></blockquote>

Isaac

Mizrahi? You sure butchered his name. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

<hr

/></blockquote>

hahah

NO I DID NOT

it is called, and I have the bottle in my

hand

\'ISSEY MIYAKE\'

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Elana

02-15-2004, 05:14 PM

I stand corrected.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

OCP

02-15-2004, 05:15 PM

I got the Ralph Lauren

\"Romance Silver\". I really like this stuff. Got a sample of \"Angel\". I like it, but I am not crazy over

it. I have not tried \"Le Male\" cologne yet, but soon I will. I got a sample of \"Vera Wang\" for men, but I

have not played with it yet.

While I was at it I got a bottle of \"Vera Wang\" for women for the wife. She put

her other stuff aside and that is all she has worn since Friday. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Elana

02-15-2004, 05:17 PM

Angel for men takes getting

used to by the guy. Women love it from the get go. Give it a try in public. Women will be trying to eat you.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

OCP

02-15-2004, 05:18 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Angel for men takes getting used to by the guy. Women love it from the get

go. Give it a try in public. Women will be trying to eat you. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

<hr /></blockquote>

What make you think they are not trying to eat me already?

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Elana

02-15-2004, 05:21 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Angel for men

takes getting used to by the guy. Women love it from the get go. Give it a try in public. Women will be trying to

eat you. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

<hr /></blockquote>

What

make you think they are not trying to eat me already? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

<hr

/></blockquote>

Then maybe you should stay away from the stuff.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

OCP

02-15-2004, 05:22 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
<blockquote>Quote:<hr

/>
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Angel for men takes getting used to by the guy.

Women love it from the get go. Give it a try in public. Women will be trying to eat you.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

<hr /></blockquote>

What make you

think they are not trying to eat me already? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

<hr

/></blockquote>

Then maybe you should stay away from the stuff.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

<hr /></blockquote>

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

EXIT63

02-16-2004, 05:01 AM

Excuse my ignoramusness.

Angel is Victorias Secret right? Or wrong?

Do you think they sell Rocha or Angel at Macys? I have a gift card I

need to use.

Elana

02-16-2004, 05:03 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Angel is Victorias Secret right? Or wrong?

<hr /></blockquote>

No, hunny...it is Thierry Mugler

Elana

02-16-2004, 05:05 AM

I know that Macy\'s has both

Le Male and Angel. I don\'t know about Rochas.

CptKipling

02-16-2004, 09:38 AM

I don\'t use Le Male so

much any more, because ever since I started wearing it some real freaks have been using it, bastards.

Sacogoo

02-16-2004, 11:13 AM

Elana writes:

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
My new favorite men\'s cologne is Rochas. If any

of you guys have a Sephora around you, go in and sample some. It\'s outrageously yummy.

<hr

/></blockquote>

Dammit woman - don\'t go stealing all my stuff. Rochas Man is a killer

evening cologne that is roughly tied for my favorite with Diesel Zero Plus. Very similar to Mugler\'s Angel Amen,

but substantially cheaper and more \"acceptable\" in terms of overall top, middle and bottom notes. (Amen can be

a touch overpowering on some people.)

Other gourmand type scents that are exceptional, but less known

are:

H.M. by Hanae Mori
- Hard to find, but absolutely stunning. More subtle than either Angel Amen and Rochas

Man, but more intricate, refined and, I feel, sexier.

Cristobal by Balceniaga

Yohji Homme by Yojhi

Yamamoto

Casran by Chopard
- Kinda in-between Angel and Lolita in terms of smell.

Lolita Lempicka Masculin by

Lolita Lempicka
- Less chocolate and more licorice/anise.

These gourmand scents are definitely evening scents,

and not for the office. (Typically too sweet and too overpowering for professional/day wear.) They are exceptional

for clubs (where they stand out in even smokey environments), or for thirdish type dates where intimacy is a

possibility.

They are sweeter than most other colognes, and some guys think that they come off as a little faggy

or chick smelling. Not for everyone.

The sweeter orientals can cover a little more ground in terms of usage than

the gourmands. Some of my favorites are:

Diesel Zero Plus by Diesel

Diesel Plus Plus by Diesel

Allure

Homme by Chanel

Minotaure by Paloma Picasso

- A more mature smell, but still sexy. Probably not best for the

late teens or early twenties crowd.

Both the oriental and gourmands are a little heavier, and probably

wouldn\'t be that appropriate for spring or summer use. Kick butt in the fall and winter though.

Holmes

02-16-2004, 11:19 AM

I like HM as

well.

Holmes

OCP

02-17-2004, 11:31 AM

I have been wearing Angel all

weekend. At first I was not crazy about it, but I am really starting to come around to this cologne.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Sexyredhead

02-17-2004, 11:40 AM

Are random women coming

up to nibble your neck? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

bigdog

02-17-2004, 11:46 AM

Chrome has been working well

with TE/AE for me. It\'s scent is easily detected and appreciated in smoky atmospheres. I have Dolce & Gabbana

to try.

burgerama1960

02-18-2004, 02:10 PM

I went out looking for

a new scent the other day and found most of the colognes to tutti frutti for my chemistry. Plus after sniffing 20 or

so colognes my nose quit on me. I guess I am not a citrus type of guy. Are there colognes out there that do not have

the citrus in them? I could not tell because my nose was fried.

apple

02-18-2004, 02:19 PM

mmmmm citrus smelling

colognes... i like citrus

burgerama1960

02-19-2004, 01:18 PM

Are any of the

colognes listed in this thread considered warm? The reason I ask is because a female friend told me that that type

of scent would be best suited for me.And to be honest I would not know what would make one that way or the other.

OCP

02-19-2004, 01:56 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Chrome has been working well with TE/AE for me. It\'s scent is easily

detected and appreciated in smoky atmospheres. I have Dolce & Gabbana to try.

<hr /></blockquote>

Checked out Chrome at lunch. That is a very light scent. It is nice , but too light for me.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Numanoid

02-20-2004, 08:38 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Are any of the colognes listed in this thread considered warm?

<hr

/></blockquote>

I consider Spark by Liz Claiborne to be warm. Try a sample and see what

you think.

CptKipling

02-20-2004, 02:57 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Are any of the colognes listed in this thread considered warm? The reason I

ask is because a female friend told me that that type of scent would be best suited for me.And to be honest I would

not know what would make one that way or the other.

<hr /></blockquote>

More likely

what she liked best. You would be better off doing your own research, finding the right scent for yourself is an

art.

Tom001

02-20-2004, 06:38 PM

I have finally found one that

works great for me. I was out a a couple of weeks ago and I overheard a group of girls raving about the mens cologne

at Victorias Secret. So, I went to Victorias Secret and I found it. It\'s called Very Sexy for Men. They have

two versions, an older one and a newer one. I purchased the older one because I liked it the best. I have been

wearing it all week. I received 5 different compliments in the first three days of wearing it. So, I went back to

VC and bought the body wash. This stuff is awesome! Women that I don\'t even know ask me what I am wearing.

When I tell them that I purchased it at Victorias Secret they get a really big smile on their faces.
I have been

applying it on top of one drop of NPA behind each ear. Two girls I met this week asked if they could take a sniff

up close. On each occasion, I stuck my neck out and they came in closer for a big sniff. Get this, each time this

happened, both of them went DIHL immediately!
They just stood there with this goofy look and big eyes..It was

funny.. This stuff is great.

Elana

02-20-2004, 07:01 PM

I just went to look up reviews

on www.makeupalley.com (\"http://www.makeupalley.com\") for Victoria\'s Secret sexy for him. They

didn\'t have any so I went to check out Rochas for men and this was the first sentence of the first review I

read...

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
This is so wonderful it even kicks

Victoria\'s Secret Sexy (both I & II versions) for Men. And that is a powerful kick!

<hr

/></blockquote>

tounge

02-20-2004, 08:51 PM

Uh darling, sweet, Princess. I hate to tell you, but

Victoria\'s Very Sexy f Men had 26 reviews. All positive. Rochas f Men had 5 reviews, all positive. I must say,

you do have exquisite taste, since Rochas has been one of my signature fragrances for the last couple of years.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

EXIT63

02-21-2004, 04:42 AM

Now she doesn\'t like it

anymore /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

tounge

02-21-2004, 06:50 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Now she doesn\'t like it anymore

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

<hr /></blockquote> Aww, that\'s

too bad. There are plenty of women around here that do.

Elana

02-21-2004, 07:53 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />

Uh darling, sweet, Princess. I hate to tell you, but Victoria\'s Very Sexy f Men had 26 reviews. All

positive. Rochas f Men had 5 reviews, all positive. I must say, you do have exquisite taste, since Rochas has been

one of my signature fragrances for the last couple of years. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

<hr /></blockquote>

Tounge...just politely point them out to me. No need for sarcasm

as I wasn\'t trying to dupe any of you out of reviews for Victoria\'s Secret for men. And yes I do have

exquisite taste.

Elana

02-21-2004, 08:01 AM

I am still not finding the

Victoria\'s Secret Sexy for him reviews. Can someone POLITELY point them out to me. Are they under a different

name? I see Sexy for Her, but I can\'t find the men\'s fragrance reviews.

Sagacious1420

02-21-2004, 08:01 AM

Elana-

What\'s

your opinion of Yohji Homme?

bjf

02-21-2004, 08:02 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
I am still not finding the Victoria\'s Secret Sexy for him reviews. Can

someone POLITELY point them out to me. Are they under a different name? I see Sexy for Her, but I can\'t find the

men\'s fragrance reviews.

<hr /></blockquote>

Maybe he was looking at

basenotes.net?

Elana

02-21-2004, 08:03 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
I am still

not finding the Victoria\'s Secret Sexy for him reviews. Can someone POLITELY point them out to me. Are they under

a different name? I see Sexy for Her, but I can\'t find the men\'s fragrance reviews.

<hr

/></blockquote>

Maybe he was looking at basenotes.net?

<hr /></blockquote>

Well I clearly stated Makeupalley, so why would he be talking about Basenotes?

Elana

02-21-2004, 08:04 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Elana-

What\'s your opinion of Yohji Homme?

<hr

/></blockquote>

I don\'t know that one, Sag? Should I? Does Sephora carry it?

bjf

02-21-2004, 08:05 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
<blockquote>Quote:<hr

/>
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
I am still not finding the Victoria\'s Secret

Sexy for him reviews. Can someone POLITELY point them out to me. Are they under a different name? I see Sexy for

Her, but I can\'t find the men\'s fragrance reviews.

<hr /></blockquote>

Maybe

he was looking at basenotes.net?

<hr /></blockquote>

Well I clearly stated

Makeupalley, so why would he be talking about Basenotes?

<hr /></blockquote>

Because

he made a mistake??? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Sagacious1420

02-21-2004, 08:06 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
I am still not finding the Victoria\'s Secret Sexy for him reviews. Can

someone POLITELY point them out to me. Are they under a different name? I see Sexy for Her, but I can\'t find the

men\'s fragrance reviews.

<hr /></blockquote>

Maybe he was looking at

basenotes.net?

<hr /></blockquote>Nope. At this time basenotes.com only covers men\'s

fragrances, although they\'ve been saying forever that they intend to include womens\'s fragrances at some

unspecified time in the future. I\'m pretty sure they were referring to makeupalley.

Sagacious1420

02-21-2004, 08:08 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Elana-

What\'s your opinion of Yohji Homme?

<hr

/></blockquote>

I don\'t know that one, Sag? Should I? Does Sephora carry it?

<hr /></blockquote>I think it would be right up your alley. Don\'t know about Sephora

or not. Check it out (\"http://www.basenotes.net/ID26121725.html\") .

Elana

02-21-2004, 08:09 AM

I just located the reviews.

They are great. Now I am intrigued.

tounge

02-21-2004, 11:26 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Can someone POLITELY point them out to me.

<hr /></blockquote>

You must be talking to me, gentlemen that I\'m am.
Go to the makeupalley site.

Productville, reviews, the gray pulldown bar. Men\'s fragrance.

As for the sarcasm, I just got a good spanking

for that. Man I can\'t even sit down. Damn, I\'ll never be sarcastic to you again.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Elana

02-21-2004, 11:43 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
As for the sarcasm, I just got a good spanking for that. Man I can\'t

even sit down. Damn, I\'ll never be sarcastic to you again

<hr /></blockquote>

Oh yeah, I saw that other post you made about your new S&M hobby. That was a nice image.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
You must be talking to me, gentlemen that I\'m

am.

<hr /></blockquote>

Yes, you are a sweetheart

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

tounge

02-21-2004, 11:51 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
As for the

sarcasm, I just got a good spanking for that. Man I can\'t even sit down. Damn, I\'ll never be sarcastic to you

again

<hr /></blockquote> Oh yeah, I saw that other post you made about your new S&M

hobby. That was a nice image. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif <blockquote>Quote:<hr

/>
You must be talking to me, gentlemen that I\'m am.

<hr /></blockquote> Yes, you

are a sweetheart /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

<hr /></blockquote>

It\'s not a new hobby. If you wern\'t so sarcastic, I would let you know where the pictures are on the

World Wide Web. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

EXIT63

02-21-2004, 12:07 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
It\'s not a new hobby. If you wern\'t so sarcastic, I would let you know

where the pictures are on the World Wide Web.

<hr /></blockquote>

Yeah Elana, stop

being so damn sarcastic! I wouldn\'t mind seeing some leather-clad dominatrixes

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Come on tounge, give us kinky guys a thrill!

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

Elana

02-21-2004, 12:10 PM

Where is the barfing icon when

I need it?

tounge

02-21-2004, 12:12 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
It\'s not

a new hobby. If you wern\'t so sarcastic, I would let you know where the pictures are on the World Wide Web.

<hr /></blockquote> I wouldn\'t mind seeing some leather-clad dominatrixes

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gifCome on tounge, give us kinky guys a thrill!

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

<hr /></blockquote>Those chicks can

be seen all over the internet. It\'s my pictures along with a couple of smokin dommie hotties, that has given many

kinksters hours of visual pleasure. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Elana

02-21-2004, 12:20 PM

Tounge...go lick the bottoms

of bigbears feet. I demand you do it now!

Gossamer_2701

02-21-2004, 01:35 PM

tounge

02-21-2004, 02:07 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Tounge...go lick the bottoms of bigbears feet. I demand you do it now!

<hr /></blockquote>

Sorry Sweetie, usually I would say YES MISTRESS!!! But I don\'t

do the gay thing. Although at another BDSM party some years ago, a cute red haired Dom did a scene with a couple of

submissive bi-sexual guys. It wasn\'t my cup of tea,
but the scene was smoking hot.

Elana

02-21-2004, 02:26 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Tounge...go

lick the bottoms of bigbears feet. I demand you do it now!

<hr /></blockquote>

Sorry Sweetie, usually I would say YES MISTRESS!!! But I don\'t do the gay thing. Although at another BDSM

party some years ago, a cute red haired Dom did a scene with a couple of submissive bi-sexual guys. It wasn\'t my

cup of tea,
but the scene was smoking hot.

<hr /></blockquote>

Freak

tounge

02-21-2004, 04:03 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
<blockquote>Quote:<hr

/>
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Tounge...go lick the bottoms of bigbears feet. I

demand you do it now!

<hr /></blockquote>

<hr /></blockquote>Freak

<hr /></blockquote>Pot--------------->Kettle

Icarus

02-21-2004, 04:20 PM

flask------------>lunchbox

Elana

02-21-2004, 04:32 PM

tounge------------->dictionary = Tongue

tounge

02-21-2004, 05:23 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
tounge------------->dictionary = Tongue

<hr /></blockquote> No darling, my handle is Tounge. I use my tongue to talk and taste and help chew food. I also use

it to bring the fairer sex to ecstatic delight and wonderment.I think we have hijacked this thread long enough. So

toodles, I\'m off to a Blues and Brews event in Fredonia, NY. I\'ll be the one smellng devine, with Rochas Man.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

osit

03-02-2007, 04:53 AM

some of the colognes that have

worked for me are the following; versace man, RL romance, aqua de gio, Drakkor, and blue jeans.
But the one that

seems to make some of the nurses drool is the versace man. I have this one nurse that always sniffs jokingly and

says i smell good. and another nurse that knows its me when i pass by even without looking. Its a lighter

fruity/citrus scent that is very remembering and compliments many womnes perfume. The next big hitter is aqua de

gio, but is too widely used and almost every girl has dated someone that have used it, which to me is :hammer: no

good