I just took Bruce Up....

[Kari]

.. on his offer of

a birthday package... NPA, Pheromol Factor, and some SOE/w.

I don\'t see the mone content listed on the

product reference sheet for Pheromol Factor. Anybody knwo it?

I better also learn how to mix NPA.

So, far,

I\'ve only experimented with AE and Primal/w.

K.

[BassMan]

The guy who

makes it was the researcher who discovered nol; it\'s a fair bet that there\'s -nol in it. Rumor has it there

are 20+ pheros in it, but the actual contents have not been published.

[Elana]

Give us

reviews! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Kari...go over to the women\'s forum. We want your

opinion of AE

[OCP]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
.. on his offer of a birthday package... NPA,

Pheromol Factor, and some SOE/w.

I don\'t see the mone content listed on the product reference sheet for

Pheromol Factor. Anybody knwo it?

I better also learn how to mix NPA.

So, far, I\'ve only experimented

with AE and Primal/w.

K.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Yeah, it took me about ten seconds

to jump on that offer. I am wondering what Pheromol Factor is also. How is that for being a prudent shopper? Ok, I

will buy it.....what does it do? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[CJ01]

PF/w is nice.

Smells great.

[apple]

birthday

offer? where? what? who? how? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Elana]

It may not be

offered to first time customers.

[Elana]

Kari...you

may be the first one to review SOE/w. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Kari]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
birthday offer? where? what? who? how?

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

You\'ll find out.. on your birthday. &lt;g&gt; Nice little inexpensive

package of mones.

[Kari]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Kari...you may be the first one to review SOE/w.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Cool! I\'ll

DO it! Seeya on this, probably Monday... as fast as LS ships. &lt;g&gt;

[Kari]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
It may not be offered to first time customers.



<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

MMMmmmmmm-- Apple, buy some stuff, so you get the offer!

[Kari]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
The guy who makes it was the researcher who

discovered nol; it\'s a fair bet that there\'s -nol in it. Rumor has it there are 20+ pheros in it, but the

actual contents have not been published.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Mmmmm! Thanks! Sounds

like something fun to play with!

[Sexyredhead]

When

was your birthday, Ms. Kari?

[Bruce]

http://www.love-scent.com/birthday/ (\"http://www.love-scent.com/birthday/\")

I published the link in

a newsletter yesterday. It is not linked anywhere else.

The idea mainly is to get new folks to take the plunge,

but anyone is welcome to place an order with it. The page will probably stay there floating in cyber space

(unlinked) for a while, but I am going to raise the price up to the normal price of a bottle of NPA ($29.95) on

Monday. So if you want to save $10. get it before then.

By the way, the SOE gels in the deal are men\'s SOE.

That is all we have at the moment. We should have women\'s SOE gel packs in within the next few weeks, so if you

order the women\'s version of this set now, drop me an email when you see/hear that we have the women\'s gel

packs in stock and I\'ll have 3 of those sent to you, no charge.

By the way #2; we will *definitely* have the

unscented SOE (bottles only) in stock by Monday. I will create the order point for that in the next couple of

hours, so it will be possible to combine all this in one order if you want.

Bruce

[Kari]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
When was your birthday, Ms. Kari?

<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

January 18th. If it was the 27th (Bruce\'s b\'day) I woulda got

everything free, insteada cheap ($19.99). &lt;g&gt;

[oscar]

Bruce,

Thanks for posting that link.
I\'m guessing that the reason that there were some forum members who

didn\'t get that email was because they haven\'t subscribed to the Pheromone E-Zine. (There\'s a sign-up on

the Love-Scent home page and it\'s free so it\'s a real no-brainer.)

This was by far the BEST deal on pheros

I\'ve ever seen!
A bottle of Pheromol Factor, a bottle of NPA, and three SOE gel-packs for $10 LESS than the

regular price of NPA alone!
I jumped on it in about five seconds, and I\'ve still got at least two bottles of

unopened NPA on the shelf.

About a month ago I was looking for a phero mix to take on vacation. I got a half

bottle of PF/m and used the chem-set syringe to put a mL of NPA/m into it.

The NPA gave the PF a nice

\"basenote\" like quality that PF on its own seems to lack, and the fragrance of the PF seems to more than

adequately cover the smell of the NPA. The resulting mix, at @5:1 (PF to NPA) smells really great.

I can\'t

speak to the fragrance of PF/w, or whether its scent would cover NPA/w at this particular ratio, but the deal is SO

good that I would think that it\'s worth giving it a shot. Even if you\'ve never considered trying PF/f (or /m),

this is the cheapest I\'ve seen NPA /f (or /m) EVER, ANYWHERE!

While I\'ve long been a fan of PF and believe

I can attest to the fact that it does produce a nice Nol-like phero effect, it was I who intentionally left it off

of the product table. Why?
On PF\'s box it lists the ingredients as follows:
\"Alcohol, Water, Fragrance,

Pheromones(3%)\"
The \"(3%)\", if true (highly unlikely), would make the stuff 30 times more potent than the

Chem-Set Pheros, and was thus discounted as hype. So, for lack of seemingly credible content info it was left off

the table. Too bad too, because it\'s a nice little product with a real interesting fragrance. But don\'t let

the hype get in the way of your snagging a really good deal. Try it. I think you\'ll like it!

Oscar

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Sexyredhead]

Wow!

That is a great deal! Just grabbed it myself. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

I\'m

subscribed to the e-zine, but I haven\'t gotten it recently. Maybe I was missed on this round or something?

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[CptKipling]

If I

hadn\'t just ordered, I would have snapped this up!

Never mind though, I found an unopened bottle of NPA when I

was putting my new products in my phero box (really need to get rid of some empties...).

[Mtnjim]

I thought I

remembered that the guy who makes PF (Tom Dobbs) had quit the ~mone business to do something else and PF would no

longer be made. (adn yes 2 minutes after I got the e-mail, I jumped on it too!)

[oscar]

Mtnjim,

Evidently the former manufacturers of Pheromol Factor, Kiotech, have \"Gone Fishin\'\". They now

make fish-phero attractants for anglers exclusively from what I gathered from their site.

The most interesting

thing I saw there was the following quote:

\"Pheromones were first brought to the attention of fishermen, and

their substantial influence recognised following the publication of a letter by The Field magazine which suggested

that pheromones were instrumental in the uncanny ability wielded by women in catching large salmon.\"

I ain\'t

even touchin\' that one! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Oscar

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[bjf]

Oscar,

I

believe that guy (do not remembr his name) now has new pheomone products. I believe I have seen the web page twice,

will try and find the link and send to you via pm.

[Sagacious1420]

I did

some poking around to refresh my memory about Pheromol Factor. I know it\'s nol based and is rumored to have a

gazzillion pheros. However, there\'s one thing that I was unable to figure out. Does anyone know if there is a

separate formula for PF/m and PF/w or are they the same but w/ different fragrances?

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Oscar-

That 5:1 ratio worked well for you? I thought I

read in an old post of yours that a 10:1 ratio worked best for you?

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif Perhaps I am mistaken...it\'s happened before.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[writerguy]

Anybody

remember the writerguy? I was forum member #35 or so back in 2001, when it was just Jambat, Oscar, Pauldownunder,

CJ, TCO and a few others.

I haven\'t been active in like forever, but been using my pheros all along. Had to

take Bruce up on his offer (Happy Birthday, by the way) because I\'m a big fan of -nol based products like Phermol

Factor (PF) and been using SoE for a year or so. PF always gave me a relaxed feeling, and I got definites hits from

women my age and older (and the kids go \'Ewww.\')

As a journalist, I like the ice-breaking effect of -nol

to make people comfortable quickly when I interview them. I\'m married and in my 40\'s, so don\'t need to

attract lil hotties at the bar. (Although....)

Anyway, I look forward to adding a bit of NPA in the mix.

Wasn\'t JB#3 PF and NPA? The memory is the second thing to go at my age...

Any ideas on what I should expect

with the NPA? Think it might thaw out my wife a bit?

Hello to all the folks I haven\'t met yet. Nice to be

back.

~writerguy~

[Sagacious1420]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Any ideas on what I should expect with the NPA?

Think it might thaw out my wife a bit?

~writerguy~

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Welcome

back.

Like you, I enjoy the effects of nol in my mixes and it produces a nice synergy w/ the sexual element

that NPA provides. This will be my 1st run w/ PF and I\'m looking forward to testing a new product. It\'s been

a while since I\'ve used anything but my tried and true arsenal. I\'m sure that you\'ll be pleased w/ your

NPA purchase. It should heat things up nicely w/ your wife. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif



Don\'t be a stranger or at least don\'t be stranger than me.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[oscar]

Sagacious,

I didn\'t recall ever actually using a 10:1 ratio of PF to NPA, so I did a search: [pf npa 10

oscar] using \"and\" option on all forums, all posts, and came up with this

thread:

http://www.server2.love-scent.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Board=UBB4&a

mp;Number=9390&amp;Forum=All_Forums&amp;Words=pf%20npa%201 0%20oscar&amp;Match=And&amp;Searchpage=0&amp;Limit=25&amp;

Old=allposts&amp;Main=9388&amp;Search=true#Post9390 (\"http://www.server2.love-scent.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Board=UBB4&amp;Number=9390&amp

;Forum=All_Forums&amp;Words=pf%20npa%2010%20oscar&amp;Matc h=And&amp;Searchpage=0&amp;Limit=25&amp;Old=allposts&amp;M

ain=9388&amp;Search=true#Post9390\")

I\'m guessing that\'s what you remembered seeing.


I was trying PF to NPA at 10:3 there.
That was just a little experiment in my ongoing crusade of debunking the

supposedly magical ratio of 7:3 for NPA mixes. (Sorry Jambat. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

)

Very few scents other than undiluted essential or fragrance oils will adequately stand up to the smell of NPA

for long in a 7:3 mix in my opinion.
When you think of it 7:3 is just a bit more dilute than 2:1,

right?

Anyway, since then I\'ve pretty much used a 5:1 ratio for NPA mixes for nearly every fragrance I\'ve

mixed with it.

I never did know whether there was a difference in the phero profiles of PF/m and PF/w. I suppose

Bruce would be the best one to answer that question.

Oscar /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[oscar]

writerguy,

Good to see you back! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

I did a search for

[Writer Guy] and came up with a load of your old posts.
It\'s a smart move signing posts within the text with

your username because if anything ever happens to cause you to become a \"DoNotDelete\" you can still find your

old stuff.

I was #90 on the old board (Wilde Oscar back then), so you were actually here when I got

here.

Welcome back!

Oscar /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Sagacious1420]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Sagacious,

I didn\'t recall ever actually

using a 10:1 ratio of PF to NPA, so I did a search: [pf npa 10 oscar] using \"and\" option on all forums, all

posts, and came up with this

thread:

http://www.server2.love-scent.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Board=UBB4&a

mp;Number=9390&amp;Forum=All_Forums&amp;Words=pf%20npa%201 0%20oscar&amp;Match=And&amp;Searchpage=0&amp;Limit=25&amp;

Old=allposts&amp;Main=9388&amp;Search=true#Post9390 (\"http://www.server2.love-scent.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Board=UBB4&amp;Number=9390&amp

;Forum=All_Forums&amp;Words=pf%20npa%2010%20oscar&amp;Matc h=And&amp;Searchpage=0&amp;Limit=25&amp;Old=allposts&amp;M

ain=9388&amp;Search=true#Post9390\")

I\'m guessing that\'s what you remembered seeing.


I was trying PF to NPA at 10:3 there.
That was just a little experiment in my ongoing crusade of debunking the

supposedly magical ratio of 7:3 for NPA mixes. (Sorry Jambat. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

)

Very few scents other than undiluted essential or fragrance oils will adequately stand up to the smell of NPA

for long in a 7:3 mix in my opinion.
When you think of it 7:3 is just a bit more dilute than 2:1,

right?

Anyway, since then I\'ve pretty much used a 5:1 ratio for NPA mixes for nearly every fragrance I\'ve

mixed with it.

I never did know whether there was a difference in the phero profiles of PF/m and PF/w. I suppose

Bruce would be the best one to answer that question.

Oscar /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">Thanks for the reply Oscar. I\'m not sure if that\'s the post I

remembered, but it\'s no big deal. The one I was thinking of was from a PF search and I had gone thru a ton of

posts, that\'s why I wasn\'t exactly sure...info overload, ya know. Anyway, I\'ll have to give that 5:1 ratio

a run when I get my order.

[writerguy]

Thanks

Oscar,

So....you\'re not so Wilde now? Or you just don\'t warn people?

I\'ll try the 10:3, and also

10:2. I don\'t need to be representin\' alpha all over the place, being a manly man and the father of sons

anyway.

Besides, I\'ve been taking Tribex for a few months and I got mah mojo workin, for an old guy,

anyway...makes me feel like a kid of 30 again. Woohooo!!! Woody Johnson\'s back in town!

Is Paul from Oz still

around? What name/psychotic delusion is he using? Did he ever get that Pokemon tea cozy I invented?

Writer guy

[OCP]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />

Besides, I\'ve been taking Tribex for a few

months and I got mah mojo workin, for an old guy, anyway...makes me feel like a kid of 30 again. Woohooo!!! Woody

Johnson\'s back in town!


<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

What is Tribex? I am totally

unfamiliar with this, but it sounds good. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[writerguy]

Getting a

little OT here, but I noticed Tribex has been discussed on this forum before. Basically it\'s a Bulgarian herb,

tribulus terresterris, that tricks the middle-aged male body into producing more testosterone. Bodybuilders on

steroids have used it to re-start their testosterone production after steroid use screwed it up. It\'s a natural

thing, and probably wouldn\'t help anybody under 40 or so, but for us on the upside of 45, it\'s a freakin

miracle cure.

By the way, and on-topic at that, my PF and NPA arrived today, four days after my order. Can\'t

beat that!

Let\'s see, who shall I try it out on....

Writer Guy

[OCP]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Getting a little OT here, but I noticed Tribex has

been discussed on this forum before. Basically it\'s a Bulgarian herb, tribulus terresterris, that tricks the

middle-aged male body into producing more testosterone. Bodybuilders on steroids have used it to re-start their

testosterone production after steroid use screwed it up. It\'s a natural thing, and probably wouldn\'t help

anybody under 40 or so, but for us on the upside of 45, it\'s a freakin miracle cure.

By the way, and on-topic

at that, my PF and NPA arrived today, four days after my order. Can\'t beat that!

Let\'s see, who shall I try

it out on....

Writer Guy

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Oh, ok......since I am a body

builder I am familiar with tribulus terresterris. In fact I took it last summer when I had a testosterone crash

from using a product called A-1. It is good stuff. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[bjf]

In fact I took

it last summer when I had a testosterone crash from using a product called A-1. It is good stuff.&gt;&gt;&gt;


/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
What????

As in the A-1 discussed on this forum? It can

mess up T-levels?

[franki]

He is talking

about something else.

[Sagacious1420]

No,

he\'s talking about 1-AD (1-androstene-3beta, 17beta-diol) or (1-androstene-3beta, 17beta-dione). It\'s a

prohormone, not at all the pheromone we call A-1 (androsta-4,16-dien-3-one).

[bjf]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
No, he\'s talking about 1-AD (1-androstene-3beta,

17beta-diol) or (1-androstene-3beta, 17beta-dione). It\'s a prohormone, not at all the pheromone we call A-1

(androsta-4,16-dien-3-one).


<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Isn\'t that stuff from the

penis improvement thread androsta-4,16-dien-3-one?

[Sagacious1420]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font

class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
No, he\'s talking about 1-AD (1-androstene-3beta, 17beta-diol) or

(1-androstene-3beta, 17beta-dione). It\'s a prohormone, not at all the pheromone we call A-1

(androsta-4,16-dien-3-one).


<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Isn\'t that stuff from the

penis improvement thread androsta-4,16-dien-3-one?


<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">Doubt it. IIRC,

there may have been some discussion of 1-AD and/or 4-AD being used for topical application. Both of these are

prohormones, whereas A-1 is a pheromone.

[OCP]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
In fact I took it last summer when I had a

testosterone crash from using a product called A-1. It is good stuff.&gt;&gt;&gt;


/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
What????

As in the A-1 discussed on this forum? It can

mess up T-levels?

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

No, I am sorry. A-1 is a brand name for a

prohormone that body builders use to up their testosterone levels. It has nothing to do with pheros.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[OCP]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
No, he\'s talking about 1-AD (1-androstene-3beta,

17beta-diol) or (1-androstene-3beta, 17beta-dione). It\'s a prohormone, not at all the pheromone we call A-1

(androsta-4,16-dien-3-one).


<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Yes, exactly, it is called 1-AD

and not A-1 (sorry for the confusion). I stopped using it (thus I forgot the actual name) because testosterone

crashes are not fun. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[Mtnjim]

\"Is Paul

from Oz still around? What name/psychotic delusion is he using? Did he ever get that Pokemon tea cozy I

invented?\"

He became \"Donald Duck\" and later \"Watcher\"

Doesn\'t show up a much as he used to.