View Full Version : I might be done....
Jaggy
01-25-2004, 08:19 AM
Need to know if any of
you are having this problem. I mainly started buying pheros about 3 years ago here as an experiment. I use to post
quite a bit in this forum, but have been mainly an observer for the past year or so. I have tried nearly every
phermone on this site except for Pheromax. I\'ve done the combinations, the single applications and so on. My
latest had been krtl\'s mix of wagg/npa/pi. My question to you all is, have many of you found that phero\'s have
just stopped working? I\'ve never gotten the hits many of you write about, nor the glances, come on\'s etc. I
must say though, I did have 1 hell of a hit the first month I began which I had posted. I have gone to bars,
parties, functions, but no hits. I smile, strike up conversations etc. I\'ve even laid off pheros for a few weeks
to clear myself of them. I\'ve tried everything from 1 drop to 8 drops. It\'s not that I have trouble with
female contact, I have alot of girls in my office who tell me they would love to date me or have come close to
falling head over heels for me if we weren\'t working in the same office.
The problem seems to be not getting
those reactions outside of office life. Maybe I need to refresh the pheros when I go out after work, who knows. I
just feel like I\'m wasting money on this stuff. Anyone else having these problems?
belgareth
01-25-2004, 09:01 AM
Jaggy,
There have been a few people on the forum who got no results and I always wonder why. For my own part I
believe they work and there is a lot of well documented evidence that agrees with that assessment. So, Why do mones
not seem to work for some people. We have to assume that female biological responses are pretty much universal. You
are buying good quality product that works for others. The difference has to be either something you are/are not
doing or the environment you are working in. Take it step by step and examine each variable carefully.
The first
few times I wore mones, I didn\'t notice much but was looking for reactions related to business rather than
sexual. A few of the reactions I get were bad, like aggressive clients and such. I was using too much none for my
body chemistry. It took a lot of experimenting and a real effort to pay attention to people\'s more subtle
responses before I started to make progress. Most of my mixes now are light on the none. Because my personality is
somewhat aloof, I had to make it a point to be more outgoing and friendly when in public. One of the things that
most helped me, other than several re-readings of threads, was to keep a journal of my results. Use one mone at a
time, be open and friendly and record the results. Do that for a week or so with each mone the tabulate your
results. It gives you a good idea what is going on. Try a small dose first and increase it by 50% if you don\'t
see any results after the first week. Eventually, you will at least see OD responses. From there you can back down
to a dose that attracts without repelling. Your thought on refreshing the mones after work is also a good
one.
Other than that, how is your appearance? Personal hygene? Attitude? Humor? What kinds of places are you
going while wearing mones?
good luck.
Friendly1
01-25-2004, 01:25 PM
How do you
dress? How do you act? How do you present yourself? Most guys should be able to get SOME interest even without
the pheromones. It doesn\'t sound right that women in your office go for you and women outside don\'t. In
fact, about a third of all marriages start in office relationships. I know lots of people who have hooked up at
work. You may need to spend more time learning how to read women\'s signals and less trying to get them to climb
over the fence for you.
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In fact, about a third of all marriages start in
office relationships.
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> and a lot of divorces due to office affairs too
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Holmes
01-25-2004, 01:58 PM
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In fact, about a third of all marriages start in
office relationships.
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That\'s a little depressing. (Sorry, just
me...)
Holmes
People who work in
offices are more likely to divorce.
thingscouldwork
01-25-2004, 02:56 PM
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People who work in offices are more likely to
divorce.
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Than what??
1. People being unemployed??
2. People
working at construction sites??
3. People that OWN these
offices??
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Not everyone works
in an office.
Friendly1
01-25-2004, 05:47 PM
The most
common reason for divorce (in America) is disagreements over money. I have never seen any statistics about office
workers having a higher divorce rate than anyone else. In fact, I would expect a higher divorce rate among
production workers.
Be that as it may, other divorce statistics include: most marriages that end do so within
five years. Most people who get divorced remarry at least one time. Divorced men tend to marry younger women the
second time around. Most marriages do not last more than ten years. These are all American statistics.
DefconX3
01-25-2004, 08:03 PM
Hey
Jaggy,
Is it possible that for some reason or other your body\'s natural pheromone signature has changed in the
last couple years, making the mone combinations that used to work not work as well as they used to? I would say to
just keep trying, I know for a fact that they work for me and I love it. Maybe you just need to try a new mix.
Are you sure
you\'re cleaning the pheromones off of your skin EVERY DAY?
Phero build-up can totally interfere with the
effects.
Use alcohol swabs or scrub really thorougly with soap and water.
ussiel
01-28-2004, 04:07 PM
This is a
little tedious, but it worked for me. Stay away from all the mixes you read about. Take one product and wear it
daily (or take a day or two off here and there) for at least a couple of weeks. Become very observant of people
around you in many different situations. Notice how people react to you...cashiers, people in stores, at bars, on
the bus etc. Try to put yourself in situations where you are in peoples presence for a while or linger just a little
bit longer than usual. Here is the trick though; you have to do this without any expectations so that you can pick
up on subtlties you would otherwise miss. Also notice how people act when they talk to you. Do they go on and on, do
they fumble for words, do they follow you around, avoid you, confide things in you etc. If you are patient, you will
start to notice patterns that vary with each phermone product. Once you have determined what kind of responses each
phero elicits for you you can tailor your usauge to the situation. Once you are comfortable with what seperate
products do for you you can start mixing different products in an attempt to get certain reactions. For instance,
for me pheromax gets the best response from younger girls (long stares touching etc., Rogue Male gets me all kinds
of respect in business situations but nothing in bars, AE gets people around me talking and comfortable and more
open, AE & SOE and I can\'t get away from people they start telling me there life story and following me
around, NPA does very little for me and PI just scares people. Remember reations are not only sexual. Also when
using 1 mone at a time try different applications, In hair gel, on the neck and in facial hair work best for me.
Lastly when using one mone at a time always cover it with a nice cologne. The cologne will attract peoples attention
and sort of reel them in to the pheromones.
hope I didn\'t ramble....... Good luck
CptKipling
01-28-2004, 04:16 PM
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This is a little tedious, but it worked for me.
Stay away from all the mixes you read about. Take one product and wear it daily (or take a day or two off here and
there) for at least a couple of weeks. Become very observant of people around you in many different situations.
Notice how people react to you...cashiers, people in stores, at bars, on the bus etc. Try to put yourself in
situations where you are in peoples presence for a while or linger just a little bit longer than usual. Here is the
trick though; you have to do this without any expectations so that you can pick up on subtlties you would otherwise
miss. Also notice how people act when they talk to you. Do they go on and on, do they fumble for words, do they
follow you around, avoid you, confide things in you etc. If you are patient, you will start to notice patterns that
vary with each phermone product. Once you have determined what kind of responses each phero elicits for you you can
tailor your usauge to the situation. Once you are comfortable with what seperate products do for you you can start
mixing different products in an attempt to get certain reactions. For instance, for me pheromax gets the best
response from younger girls (long stares touching etc., Rogue Male gets me all kinds of respect in business
situations but nothing in bars, AE gets people around me talking and comfortable and more open, AE & SOE and I
can\'t get away from people they start telling me there life story and following me around, NPA does very little
for me and PI just scares people. Remember reations are not only sexual. Also when using 1 mone at a time try
different applications, In hair gel, on the neck and in facial hair work best for me. Lastly when using one mone at
a time always cover it with a nice cologne. The cologne will attract peoples attention and sort of reel them in to
the pheromones.
hope I didn\'t ramble....... Good luck
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I
don\'t mean to burst your bubble, but that is what is said all the time. Well said none the less.
Sagacious1420
01-28-2004, 05:48 PM
Always
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CptKipling
01-29-2004, 09:31 AM
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Well said none the less.
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I think it\'s good that someone realised it on their own, wasn\'t
knocking the guy.
Irish
01-30-2004, 07:41 AM
When I first
started wearing commercial pheros I od’ed often, out of ignorance. I had a few spectacular hits but more often than
not I repelled women with the smell. I know, one girl told me so. But I learned a lot, and the hits convinced me
something was really going on. But my initial approach was definitely overkill.
I looked into the science of
pheros, and found some definite results on what human pheros really do. In short, they 1) improve a woman’s mood, 2)
increase a male’s attractiveness to a women and 3) some other subtle effects. This can happen subconsciously
without the woman consciously detecting a scent.
So what do we do with that? Put it in context I say. The
commercial pheros are your ally in an era where we wash off our natural pheros daily. They give you an edge.
Integrate them into your courtship strategy once you are convinced they really work (science and experience
convinced me). Like wearing the right clothes or having a fat wallet, pheros add to your attractiveness arsenal –
and that’s good enough. I don’t expect pheros to do it all – I use them very sparingly now.
I’m realistic about
what nature designed pheros to do…which is make a woman feel better in a man’s presence, and find him more
attractive in person than she might just looking at his photo (the presence of pheros increases attractiveness).
That’s it. It won’t turn women into mindless sex-zombies.
The occasional ‘super-hit’ usually involves a woman
who is a little out of control or drunk before you even show up wearing your pheros. She over-reacts to your
phero-attractiveness the same way she might over-react to a guy driving a Ferrari. These encounters are fun, but I
don’t live for them. I like my women a little more civilized.
So I put myself in the woman’s place. If I’m using
my pheros correctly they will have a subtle effect on her impression of me – she’ll find me sexier or more appealing
or fun to be around than if I wasn’t wearing pheros. I don’t expect her to black out in a sexual frenzy and wake up
in the sack with me wondering what came over her. After all, just because I find a woman attractive doesn’t mean I’m
going to suddenly run up to her and start pawing her – her effect on me is real, but polite society usually demands
I hide my attraction, especially with someone I don’t know well.
So I guess I’m saying convince yourself that
pheros have an effect on women…if you believe in science you can find all the proof you need. Then with that
conviction wear commercial pheros with the confidence of knowing they are working for you. Keep your application
subtle so you don’t draw any negative attention (our cultural hygiene scent imperatives) and press on. It’s like
wearing a great suit … you know you look good in it, and you are sure people find it appealing even if they don’t
all run up to you on the street and tell you so. You are having the desired mental effect on them, whether they
openly show it or not.
Gossamer_2701
01-30-2004, 09:52 AM
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It won\'t turn women into mindless sex-zombies.
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Damn... looks like I just got suckered again
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif I\'ll have to throw all my \'mones into the junk drawer right
next to that subliminal sexual seduction CD I bought on Ebay /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif
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Just
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif kidding.... good post Irish.
Goss
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When I first started wearing commercial pheros I
od’ed often, out of ignorance. I had a few spectacular hits but more often than not I repelled women with the smell.
I know, one girl told me so. But I learned a lot, and the hits convinced me something was really going on. But my
initial approach was definitely overkill.
I looked into the science of pheros, and found some definite results
on what human pheros really do. In short, they 1) improve a woman’s mood, 2) increase a male’s attractiveness to a
women and 3) some other subtle effects. This can happen subconsciously without the woman consciously detecting a
scent.
So what do we do with that? Put it in context I say. The commercial pheros are your ally in an era where
we wash off our natural pheros daily. They give you an edge. Integrate them into your courtship strategy once you
are convinced they really work (science and experience convinced me). Like wearing the right clothes or having a fat
wallet, pheros add to your attractiveness arsenal – and that’s good enough. I don’t expect pheros to do it all – I
use them very sparingly now.
I’m realistic about what nature designed pheros to do…which is make a woman feel
better in a man’s presence, and find him more attractive in person than she might just looking at his photo (the
presence of pheros increases attractiveness). That’s it. It won’t turn women into mindless sex-zombies.
The
occasional ‘super-hit’ usually involves a woman who is a little out of control or drunk before you even show up
wearing your pheros. She over-reacts to your phero-attractiveness the same way she might over-react to a guy driving
a Ferrari. These encounters are fun, but I don’t live for them. I like my women a little more civilized.
So I put
myself in the woman’s place. If I’m using my pheros correctly they will have a subtle effect on her impression of me
– she’ll find me sexier or more appealing or fun to be around than if I wasn’t wearing pheros. I don’t expect her to
black out in a sexual frenzy and wake up in the sack with me wondering what came over her. After all, just because I
find a woman attractive doesn’t mean I’m going to suddenly run up to her and start pawing her – her effect on me is
real, but polite society usually demands I hide my attraction, especially with someone I don’t know well.
So I
guess I’m saying convince yourself that pheros have an effect on women…if you believe in science you can find all
the proof you need. Then with that conviction wear commercial pheros with the confidence of knowing they are working
for you. Keep your application subtle so you don’t draw any negative attention (our cultural hygiene scent
imperatives) and press on. It’s like wearing a great suit … you know you look good in it, and you are sure people
find it appealing even if they don’t all run up to you on the street and tell you so. You are having the desired
mental effect on them, whether they openly show it or not.
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class=\"post\">
Irish.....this is an excellent statement of the realities of Pheros and there affects on women
and I will take it a step further and say it has this affect on people in general. I use it for work purposes and
it does help me in getting respect and being convincing, but if I were to just sit around and do nothing all day
then the phero influence would be worthless. I still have to do the work and do it well.
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Jaggy
02-01-2004, 10:42 AM
Thanks everyone for
your input. One thing about this forum is you can always count on help or suggestions. To answer some of your
remarks. Yes I have spent time away from the pheros to clear myself. I stayed away for a month. My appearance is
fine. Just the other day at our monday morning meeting, several people joked that I looked like I stepped out of GQ
magazine. In regards to trying one product at a time. Yes I do that everytime I buy a new product. I test it at the
very least a month before I venture into the mixes.One quick comment about doing well with my office workers. Been
there, done that with one of them. I would have to think twice about doing that again. Her and I had a hot thing
going for a couple months, then she wanted me to move in, I didn\'t,she through a huge drunken tantrum at a party(
one of many), that was it for me. Needless to say, she began stabbing me in the back at office. Fortunately no one
believed her and she had created so much hatred from her co-wokers she left.
Cologne? I usually go to the store,
sample something and then go back to the office and let the girls decide whether they like it or not. They happened
to like Issey so much they actually went out and bought me a bottle for my birthday.I know I made it sound as though
I haven\'t gotten any reactions.Upon occasion I will have a woman turn around in line at Starbucks or someplace
like that and smile. But it does not happen often. Maybe I read to much into several people who post on this forum
that seem to walk outside and can\'t stop the glances, DIHL\'s, come ons and so on. I will still use up what I
have left and experiment. That was always half the fun of pheros. But I am just wonder if I am throwing away good
money after bad.
Friendly1
02-01-2004, 10:47 AM
Maybe you are
more relaxed and comfortable with the women at work than with women outside of work. It\'s hard to tell what is
going on with you based on your couple of messages. But it sounds to me like you should be getting signals
everywhere you go. Some situations will produce more signals than others. A lot depends on how you act. But you
also need to read body language. Women usually express their interest in strange men in very subtle ways. That is
because they don\'t want to attract creeps.
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