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bundyburger
01-24-2004, 05:20 PM
Right.



There\'s nothing like a phero OD of some sort to wake you to the powers of pheromones.

Last night I was in

a rush to leave and hapharzardly applied SoE in several areas. Similar to usual but stupidly deciding to up the

dosage. \"Why not?\" I thought, it\'s only SoE. It\'s not like it\'s going to get me beat up or anything.

And it\'ll losen up everyone around me. Nake for a great night. They were lose alright, but dikkbrain here

wasn\'t thinking of what it may do to himself! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

One way

I\'ve reacted to heavy -Nol applications in the past is to turn into a dribbling fool. Last night was no

exception!!

Guys, (and I\'m suppose gals too)
You know that clumsy,dorky,wanker type mode you can get

yourself into when you come in contact with those rare objects of your affection? The one that has you tripping over

both your physical self AND your tongue? It\'s very much like that, but much longer lasting. It\'s amazing the

psychological change that can happen from a pheromone.

The fact that it\'s a \'safe\' phero makes -nol an

interesting one to experiment with in this way. Well, that\'s the situation that \"necessity\" put me in last

night. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif Once I was sitting at a friends house, ready to down a few

quiet ones while watching the cricket (and planning to make it a Thursday night outing to the pub later on), I found

myself feeling the effects of the OD real early and knew what effect it was going to have on my interactions with

both my friends and any others we hooked up with or chatted to for the night. And I also knew it would show me off

to outsiders in a light that wasn\'t the most conducive to been perceived as ( my goal of ) Alpha and so on.



SO, I decided to fight it. \"Why not make the most of this\", I thought (you see, thoughts were rare for me

last night /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif), \"and see if I can play it cool still?\". Well?

It\'s amazing, but somehow I didn\'t do tooo much damage to my cool-o-meter reading. It was hard. VERY hard. I

constantly had to tell myself to wipe the stupid grin off my face that I had and dumb things still occasionly came

out of my mouth.

Overall for the night things turned out alright, with the exception of not having the usual

respect from people I get when wearing some a-none (etc) as well, and even less respect then I get being plain old

bundy without -mones. My outward appearance, i.e. saying dumb things acting a little anxious and definetley not

being alpha like I\'m sure was the contributing factor in other peoples reactions to me. That can be put down to

the effect -nol had on myself.

I must mention that these reactions were from fleeting moment interactions. For

example buying from the bar, giving way to bar traffic etc. Not longer interactions with friends and friends of

friends etc. In those cases I seemed to cop a lot of talking last night. Maybe the -nol effect on other people maybe

just coincedences.

...And that was Thursday night.
Ya see, I ummmmm, aborted writing this post and saved it.

Too hungover at the time. heh heh
So, if any of this doesn\'t make sense then ask away!

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Friendly1
01-24-2004, 09:01 PM
I doubt

it was the pheromones which did you in. Sounds to me like you put yourself into the wrong frame of mind and

executed a self-fulfilling prophecy on yourself. You\'re an alpha male because you choose to be second to no one.

Not because you wear pheromones.

abductor
01-25-2004, 06:06 AM
SoE OD

give me headaches!!

EXIT63
01-25-2004, 06:59 AM
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SoE OD give me headaches!!

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me too

Sagacious1420
01-25-2004, 12:44 PM
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SoE OD give me headaches!!

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me too

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bundyburger
01-25-2004, 04:23 PM
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I doubt it was the pheromones which did you in.

Sounds to me like you put yourself into the wrong frame of mind and executed a self-fulfilling prophecy on yourself.



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I\'d agree with if it weren\'t for the fact that you are

wrong. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Truth is, this night, I didn\'t give a [censored]

what frame of mind I was in. I even had a really good time.
Before I went out I was ready to party and was

confident as anything. Before I \'moned up things were good.
Half an hour later, after arriving at my mates and

sitting down for a cruisy convo and watching the cricket. That\'s when I felt the effects. Effects I\'ve felt

before when confronted with too much -Nol. Like being trapped in the confined spaces of a car after applying Lure.

These occasions have been rare. Could count them on one hand. Over the past two years.

The headaches? Yes, but a

few rare times they haven\'t been as annoying and have made me the dumb ass described above.



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You\'re an alpha male because you choose to be

second to no one. Not because you wear pheromones.


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You\'re

right on the first bit. The situation was more like this...

\"I\'m alpha male because I choose to be second

to no one.\"
and...
\"The -Nol OD prevented me from being \'Cool\' and screwed the alpha-ness\"

Applied

mones better on Sat night. Also Felt good. Was confident. In a rare moment I was complemented on my cologne (plain

ol\' Coolwater ...and AE/m, WAGG /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif ). Had the attention of two

girls who both did the extended arm feel, walk by thing. I was IN damn it!!! BTW, one of those girls was one I met

on Thursday night!
Unfortunately the night was ambushed at the 11th hour by an old friend who decided to come out

of hiding for the first time in 12 months and needed cheering up. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Friendly1
01-25-2004, 05:55 PM
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I\'d agree with if it weren\'t for the fact

that you are wrong. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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All I have to go by is what you post. Based on what you posted, it doesn\'t sound like the

pheromones are the problem.

And based on what you added in your last message, it still sounds like you are

guiding yourself with expectations. Probably due to what you have read on this forum. But that is all it sounds

like. I am not going to argue with you over what is happening in your life. I don\'t even know

you.

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You\'re an alpha male because you choose to be second to no one. Not

because you wear pheromones.


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You\'re right on the first bit.

The situation was more like this...

\"I\'m alpha male because I choose to be second to no one.\"
and...The

-Nol OD prevented me from being \'Cool\' and screwed the alpha-ness\"

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That dog won\'t hunt. I agree that pheromones affect the wearer\'s mood. But they

don\'t stop you from being \"cool\". \"Cool\" is what you are, not what you wear. Alpha is what you choose

to be, not what you wear.

A lot of guys get by just on confidence and a great sense of humor. They don\'t pack

extra pheromones. A lot of guys also have bad evenings without packing on too many pheromones.

Your conclusions

are too subjective. I\'ve been reading these forums for months and I\'ve noticed a tendency among many posters

to assign all sorts of blame to pheromones. I typically go out with what you guys consider to be OD-level

applications of pheromones and I just don\'t have the problems you report. Part of that is due to body chemistry.

I am sure of that. But part of it is also due to the way I handle myself.

People notice me. I notice them

back. When I find myself in a situation I don\'t like, I take charge in some way. I don\'t just sit around and

moan about how the world is treating me badly. I don\'t just write off an evening. I don\'t just assume I have

OD\'d on pheromones.

I do something different to change the situation. You always have that option. Always.

bundyburger
01-25-2004, 06:15 PM
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All I have to go by is what you post. Based on what

you posted, it doesn\'t sound like the pheromones are the problem.

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I said what the -Nol OD did to me. And it WAS the problem.

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And based on what you added in your last message, it still sounds like you

are guiding yourself with expectations.
Probably due to what you have read on this forum. But that is all it sounds

like.


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Where\'d you get your psychology major?? Attatched to

your breakfast cereal packet?

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I am not going to

argue with you over what is happening in your life.


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But you just

did.

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Your conclusions are too subjective.



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Mate, you really have no idea what my conclusions are. You over

analysed everything I said and made up your own conclusion about what happened to me.

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\"Cool\" is what you are, not what you wear.

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And taking an ecstasy pill won\'t change your state of mind either??
Who made you the

expert on -mones and their possible effects on the human psyche???

I didn\'t start this thread to argue either.

So that\'s as much as far as I\'ll go in that respect.

No hard feelings.

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Friendly1
01-25-2004, 07:08 PM
Whatever.

Your flames don\'t change what you wrote or what any reasonable person has to go by.

I suggest

you calm down and take a little responsibility for what you do (and post), rather than blame pheromones and other

people.

But that is your choice to make.

EXIT63
01-26-2004, 01:56 AM
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All I have to go by is what you post. Based on what you posted, it

doesn\'t sound like the pheromones are the problem.

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I said

what the -Nol OD did to me. And it WAS the problem.

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class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />

And based on what you added in your last message, it still sounds like

you are guiding yourself with expectations.
Probably due to what you have read on this forum. But that is all it

sounds like.


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Where\'d you get your psychology major??

Attatched to your breakfast cereal packet?

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I am not going to argue with you over what is happening in your life.


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But you just did.

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Your conclusions are too subjective.

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Mate, you really have

no idea what my conclusions are. You over analysed everything I said and made up your own conclusion about what

happened to me.

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\"Cool\" is what you are,

not what you wear.

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And taking an ecstasy pill won\'t

change your state of mind either??
Who made you the expert on -mones and their possible effects on the human

psyche???

I didn\'t start this thread to argue either. So that\'s as much as far as I\'ll go in that

respect.

No hard feelings. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

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What\'s

a cruisy convo?

Holmes
01-26-2004, 06:39 AM
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what\'s a cruisy convo?

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A mobile home?

The Urban Assault Vehicle?

Wonder Woman\'s

invisible jet?



Holmes

Icarus
01-26-2004, 08:25 AM
A cruisy

convo is a conversation about cruising.

much like Jipsum Fantastic would have done in the early 70s

Holmes
01-26-2004, 08:28 AM
...or

Captain Fantastic would have done in the early 80s.


Holmes

Icarus
01-26-2004, 08:34 AM
Damn the

Fantastic bloodline.

With their cruising... and their make-out parties.

Steve

bundyburger
01-26-2004, 12:59 PM
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What\'s a cruisy convo?

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Yeah, conversation.

Damn us aussies are lazy talkers.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

heh heh /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Ash
01-26-2004, 10:47 PM
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SoE OD give

me headaches!!

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me too

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class=\"post\">Me three.

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four here

Ash
01-26-2004, 11:12 PM
I actually

just got a headache thinking about the headache I used to get using SOE. It used to csramebl my brain a lletti too.

bjf
01-27-2004, 06:16 AM
Does anyone

now why this happens?

Also, what about getting tired with it?

Do these things happen with CS Nol (ie w/o

rone(?

bundyburger
01-27-2004, 02:32 PM
It\'s a vague memory, but I do remember applying CS -nol above my lip just after I got it and then deciding not

to go out because I\'d all of a sudden felt too lethargic. Can\'t remember what I did after that. I think I may

have washed what I could away and applied AE in the same spot to perk me up.
Don\'t know. I\'ve always

wondered wether this effect was coming more from breathing in direct fumes from the carrier solution.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

jvkohl
01-27-2004, 05:10 PM
Interesting

input about the headaches: sorry. SOE has had the opposite effect on several women I work with, who have used it to

get rid of headaches, and also for some extra energy--necessary when the hospital is busy, and some techs don\'t

get enough sleep. Hope folks aren\'t applying too much too close to the nose, but that\'s exactly what the women

at work have done: just a dab on the upper lip.

Friendly1
01-27-2004, 06:28 PM
I spread

the entire gel pack across my chest, using my forearms to massage the gel into my skin. This gets the gel onto my

arms that way, well above the wrist, which is a bad place to put pheromones since they wash off so easily.

I have

never had a headache after applying pheromones. I do not put them above my lip. I have read where some of the guys

do this so the girls will think about kissing them. I get plenty of longing looks anyway. Tonight, a married woman

kept gazing down at my tie, following it to the the very end.

Oh, that was torture (for both of us, I suppose).

I\'m sure Hubby will be a happy man tonight!

OCP
01-28-2004, 10:55 AM
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Oh, that was torture (for both of us, I suppose).

I\'m sure Hubby will be a happy man tonight!



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Do not be so

sure. Her husband may be a very frustrated man! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Sagacious1420
01-28-2004, 04:17 PM
Actually, I\'m not certain that my headache comes from nol. I\'m using a mix that, depending on dosage, the

nol levels are as high as those which would result in a headache w/ about the same amount nol from just SOE. I

wonder if maybe it\'s a scent OD from too much SOE and it\'s not related to the nol levels.

Gossamer_2701
01-29-2004, 06:35 AM
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Actually, I\'m not certain that my headache comes

from nol. I\'m using a mix that, depending on dosage, the nol levels are as high as those which would result in a

headache w/ about the same amount nol from just SOE. I wonder if maybe it\'s a scent OD from too much SOE and

it\'s not related to the nol levels.



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It would be

interesting to see those of you who get headaches from SOE, testing the same amounts of the Unscented SOE to see if

it has the same effects.

I personally haven\'t gotten a headache from SOE or any other \'mones yet, and I

certainly hope that I never do... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Goss