-rones and Japanese

[adepss]

Hi!
just thought

I\'d add my experience with using rones in Japan..
I find that if you use 1/2 -1 drop of PI(no more)with Soe
or

2 sprays of Te/m with SP fragrance musk with -nol in it you get very good responses...
much more eye contact from

the ladies and flirtatious body language.....
I\'m predominantly leaning naturally towards the Alpha male type

persona...but I have had very good responses over here so far using low dosages and of course wearing a friendly

smile and having a happy attitude..
I believe the mones project(amplify) your attitude , so wearing a smile that is

happy and pleasant is a must!
anyway...just thought I\'d add my 2 cents..
for me a none and nol mix with a happy

smile is working great with gaining more interaction with the Japanese ladies
in my case....(i would definitely not

want to od with anything over here though...not even cologne..as the Japanese tend to form lasting impressions of

someone early on)

anyway...thats my report for now /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Pancho1188]

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(i would definitely not want to od with anything

over here though...not even cologne..as the Japanese tend to form lasting impressions of someone early on)


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Good call.



(Joke) Although anyone who originally created the video

for \"Extreme Elimination Challenge\" can\'t possibly take themselves seriously...just like anyone who

originally created \"Who Wants to Marry a Millionaire?\" /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[EXIT63]

Have you tried

copulins?

[adepss]

I havent tried

copulins yet, I\'ll try out the DD#1 variation (SOE + TE at 7:1) a bit longer....Soe + PI works!
but you must

project a nice friendly smile and seem approachable.....I\'ve worn it(soe +PI) with a confident serious look a few

times just to see the reaction and people wouldnt run away but they definitely went quiet and averted my gaze almost

upon spotting me...
But...with an open, relaxed posture and a really friendly pleasing smile...the ladies over here

really maintained eye contact and smiled back or played with their hair a lot more than is customary for them to

do...and I\'ve been going out with a larger variety of women in the 20-26 yr range group now...compared to before

I wore mones...I\'m 34 by the way...but in good athletic shape

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Which brings me to the point, are foreigners seen as celebrities

over here? the answer is yes and no.
If you are blonde and blue eyed and have nice facial features then yes! maybe

to a certain crowd...(cause natural blondes just dont happen in Asia..right) but the Japanese are now very

accustomed to seeing foreigners amongst them everyday of the week,so unless you go out into the rural regions..you

only get the celebrity thing happening with a certain crowd..or with the Japanese that are really into learning

English and going overseas, otherwise they see you as interesting and amusing...(but are well aware that for most

Japanese parents..dating a foreigner is not encouraged, although it is tolerated by more now than before) and to

some , they just dont like foreigners and are in fear of them, dont trust them ..but I guess you get that in every

nation...

I have always found I got better reactions when I was living in Europe, U.S. or other western

nations...Blonde woman were especially drawn to me (not always) but in comparison to Japanese ladies...I was much

more popular back home..with the attractive blonde women...
Anyway..this week I\'m gonna buy some copulins and I

will only dab on a tiny amount ....with PI and SOE and I\'ll report back...after a few weeks...

I\'m also

gonna get some AE and try that in a different mix as well...

By the way I have lived in total for about 9 years

in Japan on and off.

[SwingerMD]

Adepss,

Welcome to the forum! For me SOE seems to work the same way for everyone of all ethnic backgrounds.

-None and -none mixes work too, ya just have to tone it down a little with Japanese and other asians.

I had

about two drops total spread behind the ear\'s, neck and chest right before I went to a dance class. This cute

Japanese woman laid her cheek on my chest and clamped on tight. Danced with me through two rotations (polite to

switch after one rotation). She was quite surprised when I asked her (jokingly) if she was tired, in Japanese. She

didn\'t look too happy when the next person politely asked to rotate in.

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[adepss]

Thanks swinger!

Yip I think the SOE + TE work well with Japanese women, you just gotta keep that smile genuine and build a friendly

aura about you...the mones enhance and project the image ....anyway, I\'ll post more next week when I do more in

depth testing /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[adepss]

by the way anyone

else think SOE has a rather citrus like scent to it? doesnt really smell like musk to me ...the bottle I have smells

more like a citrus scent...just my 2 scents worth...

[adepss]

okay, tried the

SOE+Te at 7:1 ratio for last couple of days.
Results so far here in Japan...
Tried 4 dabs, 2 on my neck and 1 ech

on the wrists...Noticed a definite increase in openess in 6 women whilst talking with them at different times of the

day..
all had flustered cheeks and seemed more fidgety than usual...more smiles and flirtatiuos behaviour, exposing

wrists and continuous hair touching and leaning towards me...
Whilst on the train coming home had ! very pretty

girl look my way, then at the first stop she changed seat and sat next to me...2 stops later she leaned in and asked

me the time...unfortunately my cellphone rang and I was called back to work by my boss so I had to get off suddenly

, however the girl upon seeing me leave grabbed my arm and made a point of saying thankyou...I quickly gave her my

business card...Lets see what happens with this one...in time..
will she call? or not?

I\'ll give this mix a

thorough testing in different locations throughout the next 2 weeks..It is winter over here so I\'m only getting

some results when indoors ...naturally..
anyway I\'ll keep you guys posted.
So far so good!

[adepss]

Okay today I wore

the Soe Te mix masked with the usual chanel egoiste cologne ( which I havent used up in 10 years of having it) I

struckup a conversation with a 33 yr old in a coffe shop and she started cooly with not much in terms of obvious

responses...then after I leaned closer to her to point to her Bulgari watch she must have gotten enough pheromone

scent...cause 5mins later she started playing footsie with me under the table....I ended up arranging to meetup with

her next Friday night.
By the way that young lady on the train rang me up in the middle of the night...we\'ll

meet for dinner tomorrow...
So far so good..but I must admit..I wish there were more attractive western women

around...I\'m starting to miss them...
Having said that the Japanese ladies are very pretty...but conversation

wise ...theres often something missing..

[franki]

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Having said that the Japanese ladies are very

pretty...but conversation wise ...theres often something missing..

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Yeah, it is hard to get a conversation going with \"asian\" ladies..

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[Pancho1188]

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Having said that the Japanese ladies are very pretty...but conversation

wise ...theres often something missing..

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Yeah, it is hard to get

a conversation going with \"asian\" ladies.. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

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But once you do...........whoooooooooooa, mama...

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[Holmes]

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Yeah, it is hard to get a conversation going with

\"asian\" ladies.. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

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Speaking of which: I keep thinking that\'s my girlfriend in your new avatar, but I don\'t

remember sending you a photo... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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Holmes

[franki]

&lt;===== You mean

that girl?

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Speaking of which: I keep

thinking that\'s my girlfriend in your new avatar, but I don\'t remember sending you a photo...

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/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif


Holmes

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/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

That is funny. Then your

gf visits the same classes as me! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Holmes]

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Well, come to

think of it, I\'ve haven\'t seen her in a really, really long time...

Keep an eye on her for me, will ya?

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Holmes

[OCP]

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Having said

that the Japanese ladies are very pretty...but conversation wise ...theres often something missing..

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Yeah, it is hard to get a conversation going with \"asian\" ladies..

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

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But once you

do...........whoooooooooooa, mama... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

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I agree, at

school there are many female students from Asia and they are friendly (and cute), but keeping a conversation going

with them for over 5 minutes is alot of work. Most times just not worth the effort. I have never reached the

Whooooooooooooa mama stage with any of them. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

[Biohazard]

2 drops PI/m

and SOE has been working great for me as well. Cover with 1 spray of Aramis Life. This has been getting the older

ladies (I just turned 24), like waitresses and casino dealers. But then again, they\'re more likely to engage men

than their younger counterparts. I think I\'m on the verge of getting some sugar from a co-worker 10 yrs my

elder.

I\'m gonna cut down to 1 drop of PI/m and see what happens with the age range.

[adepss]

Good!
Are these

Japanese or asian Women you\'re talking about?
Cause higher doses of none going by what many have posted works

better with western women and half that dosage plus a
good dose of nol seems to work better with the Asian

ladies...so far...
I\'m going be trying wagg withthe mix next week to see which mixes of what mones gets better

reactions..
Though I have to say that it is true, many Japanese will not show their reaction...even if they are

affected by it...
So its gonna take many months before I get to really see conclusively which doses and which mixes

are more successful at drawing positive attention from them...

[Sagacious1420]

I know the

subject of pheros and their effect on various races has come up a few times, so I thought I would share something

from an article I read recently. Keep in mind that I can\'t vouch for the credibility of the author or article.

Although over a dozen references (ranging from books to professional journals) are listed, only about a half dozen

are cited in the body of the article. Nevertheless, I ran across something in the footnotes that was interesting

and may shed some light on what may or may not be related to some ppl\'s experiences w/ pheros and different

races.

\" <font color=\"blue\">This is an overgeneralization; there are substantial differences in apocrine

gland distribution and quantity between the various races. The six areas outlined here are generally found in

caucasians, but blacks and Aborigines tend to have more and larger glands, with a higher number on the chest and

abdomen than is found in an average caucasian. In addition, Aborigines have a much more powerful scent gland in the

circumanal region. Asians, on the other hand, tend to have smaller and far fewer apocrine glands than either

Caucasians or blacks, and many have none at all. In fact, only about 10% of Japanese people have any underarm odor

at all....</font>

The \"<font color=\"blue\">six areas</font> [w/ the greatest concentration of apocrine

glands] <font color=\"blue\">outlined</font>\" in the article are as follows:

\"<font color=\"blue\">1)

The axillae (underarms)

2) The nipples of both sexes

3) The pubic, genital, and circumanal regions

4)

The circumoral region and lips

5) The eyelids

6) The outer ear</font>\"

Anyway, I thought that some of

you who have been involve in prior discussions might find this of interest. I was thinking in particular of some of

our forum members who have been struggling to acheive phero success w/ Asians or w/ those of Asian decent...not to

overshadow socialization issues, of course. This could provide at least a partial explanation of why some have

mentioned better results w/ lower dosages.

[bjf]

Sag:



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\"1) The axillae (underarms)

2) The nipples

of both sexes

3) The pubic, genital, and circumanal regions

4) The circumoral region and lips

5) The

eyelids

6) The outer ear\"


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The article is substantial in

highlighting the differences between the races. Those differences effect conditioning, which in turn effects our

preferences. Howver, it is important to note where these races live. If your target lives among other races, then

their conditioning could be different. However, assuming both parents are of that race, I am sure that still has a

big impact.

All I am saying is that Asians in America probably are more similar to caucasians than Asians in Asia

are to caucasians.

So the arguments about \"there is no difference\" and \"there is a difference\" probably

need to specify where that target lives.


Anyway, to the point i was going to originally make, the six areas

that were mentioned in the article seem like a wonderful place to try pheromone applications.

Alot of them have

already been used, but who would have guessed they eyelids? Is that safe?

Also, what is \"the circumoral

region.\"

[belgareth]

There is a

Korean lady in one of the business groups I meet with regularly. She\'s a young doctor, just started in private

practice about a year ago and joined our group about two months back. She is very quiet most the time and seems to

avoid direct eye contact with most the members of the group but I catch her watching me at least several times

during each meeting. If we make eye contact she always smiles before looking down. When she first joined she usually

sat at the end of the conference table, now she sits in the seat right across from me. She also avoids physical

contact with others in the group but touches my hand or arm anytime we are close enough. I\'ve been keeping an eye

on her actions and though they may be subtle, they are hits and I am the only male in the group getting them from

her but am (IMO) less attractive and further from her age than at least half the males in our group.

For these

meetings I always wear the same mix: 2 drops AE/m below the ears, 2\" SoE on each side of my neck and 2\" more

spread between both arms and a light spray of EE on my shirt. Other women in the group react also but the best

results are from the Korean lady.

As I understand it, Korean and Japanese are genetically almost identical, they

come from the same stock. The amount of none I wear is minimal and seems to appeal to at least this one lady. It

might work with others.

[Friendly1]

Here in Texas,

I have always had great responses from Asian girls. They are all but overwhelmed by the pheromones, sometimes.

There are large Asian communities in my area and they seem to be very traditional. I don\'t often see these girls

out among other ethnic groups by themselves. They usually hang with Asian friends.

[CptKipling]

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[Sag\'s post]

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Very interesting.

It answers some questions (if you accept it as valid), it\'s nice to

have an article covering this topic.

I wouldn\'t have thought that male nipples release the same amount of

pheros though.

[Sagacious1420]

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It answers some questions (if you accept it as

valid), it\'s nice to have an article covering this topic.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">Yes,

assuming it\'s valid. At the very least it may provide some info that could possibly be helpful.



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I wouldn\'t have thought that male nipples

release the same amount of pheros though.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">You could be right about

that. The article was of a very general nature. I believe it did mention that mammary glands are modified apocrine

glands (again if you choose to accept the validity of the info), so that could be the case.

[Sagacious1420]

For those

who may be interested...

I did a search for the author and found this

link (\"http://www.anapsid.org/pheromones.html\").

Check it out for yourself.

[Gossamer_2701]

Hey Sag,


Thanks for the link /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif It was a very interesting read, and pretty

informative for somebody like me, since I haven\'t really looked into the \'scientific\' aspect of why they

work... I\'ve simply enjoyed playing around with various products and quantities, so far.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Goss

[adepss]

Quote\"only

about 10% of Japanese people have any underarm odor at all....\"

Yeah, interesting but when specific percentages

are given like the above, I become very sceptical.
Who conducted the research where and how....?
Every time I get

on a crowded subway train here in Japan...the amount of BO present suggests that more like 50-60% of Japanese are

emitting BO very noticeably.
Having said that, ALL humans emit BO its just a natural process of the bodys

cleansing process etc...also diet has bearing on how detectable BO is as does climate etc..

As far as Rones are

concerned I agree that small doses of SOE and TE work very well here in Japan, from personal experience.

[Sagacious1420]

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Quote\"only about 10% of Japanese people have any

underarm odor at all....\"

Yeah, interesting but when specific percentages are given like the above, I become

very sceptical.
Who conducted the research where and how....?

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">Nothing

wrong w/ being skeptical. I\'m sure you read my disclaimer in my post and the author\'s statement about

\"overgeneralization\". /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif Click on the link to find the references

used and see if you can find any info about the studies cited. I just ran across the info and put it out

there...draw your own conclusions. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif