View Full Version : Matching Hypothesis and Pheromones
Pancho1188
01-07-2004, 11:06 AM
I
know this has been mentioned before somewhere (I think in the form of, \"If I get someone hot with pheromones, how
will they act when I don\'t wear them?\"), but I\'ll throw this in the mix to see what people
think:
Matching Hypothesis - Although we may prefer someone more attractive, we ultimately choose someone close
to us in attractiveness.
Most successful relationships involve those with people of similar attractiveness.
My
question is this: If you use pheromones to attract women/men, do you think you are getting women/men that more
attractive than you are on a relative level (please humble yourselves for the sake of science if you answer this
question)? If so, do you think that when you don\'t wear -mones that whatever you had will die?
On the other
hand, do you think you\'re just attracting those who would\'ve liked you anyway but just needed that little
\'kick\' to get them jump-started into digging you?
You could expand this to ask the question: \"Would this
information mean that you are more likely to get short-term hookups over long-term bf/gfs or vice-versa with
-mones?\" but that seems too subjective and also will probably get an \"it all depends on the person\"
response.
Any other thoughts on how pheromones relate to the matching hypothesis?
Pancho
Icarus
01-07-2004, 11:33 AM
Rather than spout any potted <insert x>oligy, I think I\'ll be dumb.
<ahem>
If you grow
a beard and wear pheromones, then no man, woman or beast is outwith your reach.
And it also depends on lunar
positioning and your shoe size (on tuesdays)
Stupid is a Steven does.
Steve
Pancho1188
01-07-2004, 11:36 AM
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Rather than spout any potted <insert
x>oligy, I think I\'ll be dumb.
<ahem>
If you grow a beard and wear pheromones, then no man,
woman or beast is outwith your reach.
And it also depends on lunar positioning and your shoe size (on
tuesdays)
Stupid is a Steven does.
Steve
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I\'ve
noticed my feet (as well as other things) are bigger on Tuesdays... Hmmm...
What about the invisible space ship?
Don\'t forget that gets mad women... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Note: You don\'t
have to quote -ologies to answer this... I just want your honest opinion.
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Holmes
01-07-2004, 11:44 AM
Interesting.
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Most successful relationships
involve those with people of similar attractiveness.
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Is that really
true?
Holmes
Pancho1188
01-07-2004, 12:02 PM
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Interesting.
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Most successful relationships involve those with people of similar
attractiveness.
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Is that really true?
Holmes
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Yes.
Studies have shown that people of similar attractiveness are more
likely to have a successful relationship...
I just noticed a potential misreading of what I said. PLEASE
DON\'T take it as saying, \"THE most successful relationships involve those with people of similar
attractiveness.\" as in the best relationships are with these people... I meant that most of the successful
relationships in these studies involved those who were rated to be of similar attractiveness levels.
I have no
data on what\'s \"the best type of relationship ever to grace the face of the earth\".
Note: Those rich,
ugly guys with gorgeous women are not in the majority, and it is also a tradeoff of wealth, status, and looks for
the beautiful women. Also, who\'s to say that they\'re more successful than others?
Holmes
01-07-2004, 12:14 PM
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it is also a tradeoff of wealth, status, and looks
for the beautiful women.
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Which again begs the time-honored
question: to what degree can pheromones meddle (generally speaking) in the ranking of those three factors?
And
why Tuesdays?
Holmes
markus
01-08-2004, 01:14 PM
These are interesting questions. they bother me also from time to time. here is my two
cents:
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Most successful relationships involve
those with people of similar attractiveness.
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I think this is
true, but one has to remember attractiveness is not only how you look like. having a lot of money can also seem
attractive to some people.
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My question is this:
If you use pheromones to attract women/men, do you think you are getting women/men that more attractive than you are
on a relative level (please humble yourselves for the sake of science if you answer this question)? If so, do you
think that when you don\'t wear -mones that whatever you had will die?
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I know i certainly get much more attractive women with pheromones than i used to get without
pheros. assuming that without pheros i got women that are as attractive as i am, i guess that would mean i get now
women who are more attractive than me. or one can put it another way: with pheromones i am more attractive my self
and hence get more attractive women.
does it die if i don\'t wear the pheromones? that\'s hard to say. i
think pheromones can also cause a sort of bonding that wouldn\'t just melt away when you stop using them. but i
think this is highly dependant on the type of product one is using. more sexual products like npa/te tend in my
opinion to create relationships that will die if you don\'t use the pheros anymore. on the other hand, wagg is
much more bonding, and i think it creates a lasting bonding that wouldn\'t die (at least not so fast) if you stop
using it.
i use different products on purpose with different women according to what sort of relationship i am
looking for. if i just want something quick and sexual that wouldn\'t last long, i would mostly use te. if i want
something longer and deeper with feelings, i would use something which is less heavy on none and has a considerable
amount of nol, something like attraction maybe, and then also wagg.
markus
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does it die if i don\'t wear the pheromones?
that\'s hard to say. i think pheromones can also cause a sort of bonding that wouldn\'t just melt away when you
stop using them. but i think this is highly dependant on the type of product one is using. more sexual products like
npa/te tend in my opinion to create relationships that will die if you don\'t use the pheros anymore. on the other
hand, wagg is much more bonding, and i think it creates a lasting bonding that wouldn\'t die (at least not so
fast) if you stop using it.
i use different products on purpose with different women according to what sort of
relationship i am looking for. if i just want something quick and sexual that wouldn\'t last long, i would mostly
use te. if i want something longer and deeper with feelings, i would use something which is less heavy on none and
has a considerable amount of nol, something like attraction maybe, and then also wagg.
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Why can\'t you use both, ie a lot of nol and te, for sexual and bonding? Do you find that
amounts are unimportant, but rather ratios between the sexual and bonding pheromones make the difference?
Sagacious1420
01-08-2004, 01:48 PM
IMO, amounts and ratios are both important. I think that you can add \"comfort\" pheros w/
\"sexual\" pheros w/out diminishing the effectiveness of either...if combined in the proper ratio. At least
that\'s been my experience w/ my latest experiments. It\'s taken me a while to get a handle on an appropriate
ratio of nol and WAGG that\'s effective, for example.
markus
01-08-2004, 01:51 PM
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does it die if i don\'t wear the pheromones? that\'s hard to say. i
think pheromones can also cause a sort of bonding that wouldn\'t just melt away when you stop using them. but i
think this is highly dependant on the type of product one is using. more sexual products like npa/te tend in my
opinion to create relationships that will die if you don\'t use the pheros anymore. on the other hand, wagg is
much more bonding, and i think it creates a lasting bonding that wouldn\'t die (at least not so fast) if you stop
using it.
i use different products on purpose with different women according to what sort of relationship i am
looking for. if i just want something quick and sexual that wouldn\'t last long, i would mostly use te. if i want
something longer and deeper with feelings, i would use something which is less heavy on none and has a considerable
amount of nol, something like attraction maybe, and then also wagg.
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Why can\'t you use both, ie a lot of nol and te, for sexual and bonding? Do you find that amounts are
unimportant, but rather ratios between the sexual and bonding pheromones make the difference?
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well if i want the sexual relationship, i might also use some nol to make
things more relaxed. but if i want something lasting, i would not use te/npa even not with a lot of nol. at least
not at the begining when the relationships is in creation. when i wear te/npa (even with other products) i feel that
takes out the wild side in the woman and make almost all other sides disappear. i feel that she herself wants me
just for the sex. this is something on which one cannot build a lasting relationship. a few months max. then you
have to have other things in the relationship which i feel are lost with te/npa. but this is just my experience, it
could be different for others.
markus
Holmes
01-08-2004, 01:56 PM
Is
one ultimately asking for trouble by getting into a relationship with a significantly more attractive mate as a
result of using pheromones (i.e. someone they might not have attracted without pheromones)? It\'s an interesting
topic.
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on the other hand, wagg is much more
bonding, and i think it creates a lasting bonding that wouldn\'t die (at least not so fast) if you stop using
it.
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You think?
Holmes
markus
01-08-2004, 02:18 PM
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Is one ultimately asking for trouble by getting
into a relationship with a significantly more attractive mate as a result of using pheromones (i.e. someone they
might not have attracted without pheromones)? It\'s an interesting topic.
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getting into a relationship is always asking for trouble:)
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on the other
hand, wagg is much more bonding, and i think it creates a lasting bonding that wouldn\'t die (at least not so
fast) if you stop using it.
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You think?
Holmes
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yes. at least i want to believe it. i think if a bonding is really there
if it has found its way to the soul, then it is really there, regardless of what you wear. sexual attraction is much
more dependant on \"outside\" conditions. of course there is also a connection between sexual attraction and
bonding and one has to take into account that sexual attraction might itself turn into love. but i think that in a
relationship which has started based on plain attraction it will take much more time untill this attraction will
turn into bonding. where as wagg creates in my experience this bonding to start with.
Elana
01-08-2004, 02:22 PM
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Is one ultimately asking for trouble by getting
into a relationship with a significantly more attractive mate as a result of using pheromones (i.e. someone they
might not have attracted without pheromones)? It\'s an interesting topic.
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I don\'t think so. Once you got in the door with your mones, she has the chance to get
to know you. IMHO, that is the most important part. That\'s your chance to shine and show her why you are so
great. That will make you that much more attractive in her eyes....unless of course you have a crappy
personality...then it is all downhill. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
markus
01-08-2004, 02:30 PM
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I don\'t think so. Once you got in the door
with your mones, she has the chance to get to know you. IMHO, that is the most important part. That\'s your chance
to shine and show her why you are so great.
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that\'s of course
true (and also very nice put). but wouldn\'t you say that people are very very influenced from the first
impression you make on them, and will find it very hard to change their opinion on you. if so, it would be important
with what kind of pheromone you step in the door wouldn\'t it?
Elana
01-08-2004, 02:37 PM
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I don\'t think so. Once you got in the door with your mones, she has the
chance to get to know you. IMHO, that is the most important part. That\'s your chance to shine and show her why
you are so great.
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that\'s of course true (and also very nice
put). but wouldn\'t you say that people are very very influenced from the first impression you make on them, and
will find it very hard to change their opinion on you. if so, it would be important with what kind of pheromone you
step in the door wouldn\'t it?
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I agree...first impressions
are extremely important...you can never get another one.
Pancho1188
01-08-2004, 02:52 PM
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Is one ultimately asking for trouble by getting into a relationship with a
significantly more attractive mate as a result of using pheromones (i.e. someone they might not have attracted
without pheromones)? It\'s an interesting topic.
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I
don\'t think so. Once you got in the door with your mones, she has the chance to get to know you. IMHO, that is
the most important part. That\'s your chance to shine and show her why you are so great. That will make you that
much more attractive in her eyes....unless of course you have a crappy personality...then it is all downhill.
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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Elana is
reinforcing the fact that it is indeed possible to get hot women like herself if you\'ve got the right moves...
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Elana
01-08-2004, 02:56 PM
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Elana is reinforcing the fact that it is indeed
possible to get hot women like herself if you\'ve got the right moves...
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damn straight...and it wouldn\'t hurt if you brought me a slice of chocolate cherry
cheesecake.
Pancho1188
01-08-2004, 02:57 PM
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I don\'t
think so. Once you got in the door with your mones, she has the chance to get to know you. IMHO, that is the most
important part. That\'s your chance to shine and show her why you are so great.
<hr /></blockquote><font
class=\"post\">
that\'s of course true (and also very nice put). but wouldn\'t you say that people are very
very influenced from the first impression you make on them, and will find it very hard to change their opinion on
you. if so, it would be important with what kind of pheromone you step in the door wouldn\'t it?
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I agree...first impressions are extremely important...you can never get
another one.
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&$^%*%^ (*&^(* *(&^ *(&^*
^*(&!!!!! I\'m in trouble... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
I think first impressions
are mostly important for people you may not see very often... That\'s more \"make or break\". However, with a
work or other atmosphere where you\'ll be around each other a lot, you get to make up for a bad first impression
to the point where it doesn\'t even matter because they actually got to know the real you...
Dating someone more attracive than you you only becomes a problem if you think they are too attractive (good) for
you. That shines through. Its all about the attitude. The reason why similar looking people are more likely to
have better relationships is because they don\'t feel inadequete and project and attitude that doesn\'t send a
message to their partner that they can find something else better out there.
Pancho1188
01-08-2004, 03:02 PM
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Elana is reinforcing the fact that it is indeed possible to get hot women
like herself if you\'ve got the right moves...
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damn
straight...and it wouldn\'t hurt if you brought me a slice of chocolate cherry cheesecake.
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Sure, and I\'ll make sure to bring some whipped cream and we could take
turns licking it off of each oth------*WHACK!!!!!!*---------I\'m sorry, what was I talking about? Oh,
yeah...-mones and whether you can reach higher on the attraction food chain or not...Give me a second, I have more
interesting info to add regarding that...
Holmes
01-08-2004, 03:02 PM
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and it wouldn\'t hurt if you brought me a slice
of chocolate cherry cheesecake.
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Taking notes now. Sh!t, my
pencil just broke. Now what was that again?
Holmes
Elana
01-08-2004, 03:04 PM
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and it wouldn\'t hurt if you brought me a slice of chocolate cherry
cheesecake.
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Taking notes now. Sh!t, my pencil just broke. Now
what was that again?
Holmes
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Holmes, you are already in the
door. No cheesecake necessary. Just bring your CD and lip sink all of the songs while I throw my panties at you.
Holmes
01-08-2004, 03:11 PM
Oh
yeah, almost forgot: I\'m a Bombing Brother! Heyyyy now! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
My bandmate DJ Bytewallz and I don\'t take no smack from da beeyotches.
Holmes
Elana
01-08-2004, 03:13 PM
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Oh yeah, almost forgot: I\'m a Bombing Brother!
Heyyyy now! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif My bandmate DJ Bytewallz and I don\'t take
no smack from da beeyotches.
Holmes
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I am swooning.
duck...there goes my bra.
Pancho1188
01-08-2004, 03:15 PM
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Oh yeah, almost forgot: I\'m a Bombing Brother! Heyyyy now!
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif My bandmate DJ Bytewallz and I don\'t take no smack from da
beeyotches.
Holmes
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I am swooning. duck...there
goes my bra.
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Feel blessed, Holmes... That\'s the one I
bought her for Christmas. She said she\'d only wear it for very special occasions...
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Elana
01-08-2004, 03:17 PM
Hey! I own two! I may even be able to locate them if you give me some time.
Pancho1188
06-14-2004, 12:47 PM
Baby, turn around and let me
see this Pancho posting go *Bump, Bump, Bump*
(sorry, I just had *Bump* and it said I needed 10 characters)
DZorro
06-14-2004, 12:53 PM
Baby, turn around
and let me see this Pancho posting go *Bump, Bump, Bump*
(sorry, I just had *Bump* and it said I needed 10
characters)
Really ??? well it didn't for me :p
DZorro,
DrSmellThis
06-14-2004, 01:30 PM
Pancho, research suggests that
people pick those of similar attractiveness.
Pancho1188
06-14-2004, 01:44 PM
Pancho,
research suggests that people pick those of similar attractiveness.
So the question is, are pheromones
giving you a shot at a higher "level" of attractiveness only to get screwed later? Are they giving you a better
shot at attracting those with similar attractiveness? Are they going to get you a 'hottie' forever?
I'd go
with response #2 if you want a decent relationship...now, how you guage your attractiveness and that of your
intended target, I have no idea. But you know those "brother-sister" couples? They're the ones that have a good
chance of making it. They go together like bread and butta... :)
DrSmellThis
06-14-2004, 01:53 PM
I try to look at it as helping
me with the type I'm already attracted to, which tend not to be the supermodel-type anyway. I think I already am
attracted to those closer to my own level of attractiveness, which is great by me. I like who I like, after all.
a.k.a.
06-14-2004, 05:20 PM
how you guage your
attractiveness and that of your intended target, I have no idea.
Someone once posted a link to some
web site with a system that supposedly let you calculate this sort of thing with mathematical precision. IMO these
kind of calculations can (and do) drive a person crazy.
If it’s “forever” that you’re interested in, most
professional counselors will tell you that shared values are the #1 factor in establishing a successful marriage.
If you shy away from hot girls (or hunky guys) because you think they’re out of your league, then either a) the
"attraction" is nothing more than eye candy in the first place or b) you are condemning yourself to a life without
passion.
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