A Drug for More and Easier Female Orgasms [Archive]

Whitehall

12-21-2003, 09:02 PM

Been doing some research on female orgasms. It seems the Prozac-like drugs (SSRIs) are almost certain

to make it more difficult for men and women to achieve orgasm. The reason is too much serotoin.

One way that

pdocs deal with that complaint is to prescribe an antihistamine called Periactin. It is used for hives, allergies,

etc but has the effect of rapidly depleting the serotoin levels in the nervous system. The lower serotoin lowers

the inhibititory restraints on orgasm. Periactin also makes one drowsy.

I suspect that it would be useful

for you women who have trouble coming to orgasm or who take too long. For \"normal\" men, it would probably lead

to premature ejaculation.

Anyone of you ladies ever tried it or have any in your medicine cabinets?

DrSmellThis

12-22-2003, 03:04 AM

Just yesterday a friend told me Claritin helps male sexual functioning. I haven\'t personally looked

into it.

CJ01

12-22-2003, 04:52 AM

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I suspect that it would be useful for you women

who have trouble coming to orgasm or who take too long.

<hr /></blockquote> no woman

takes `too long´ to get an orgasm. What´s needed is not a drug for the woman but a man with stamina who´s a good

lover /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

I

think this thread ought to go into open discussion maybe.

I´ve not tried any of these as far as I recall.

Maybe it´s not sold here but I´m not sure.

EXIT63

12-22-2003, 04:59 AM

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A Drug for More and Easier Female

Orgasms

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Does it have your picture on the bottle?

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bjf

12-22-2003, 05:52 AM

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no woman takes `too long´ to get an orgasm. What´s

needed is not a drug for the woman but a man with stamina who´s a good lover

<hr /></blockquote>

Exactly. Just put all men on SSI\'s.

Kari

12-22-2003, 07:01 AM

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Been doing some research on female

orgasms. It seems the Prozac-like drugs (SSRIs) are almost certain to make it more difficult for men and women to

achieve orgasm. The reason is too much serotoin.

One way that pdocs deal with that complaint is to prescribe an

antihistamine called Periactin. It is used for hives, allergies, etc but has the effect of rapidly depleting the

serotoin levels in the nervous system. The lower serotoin lowers the inhibititory restraints on orgasm. Periactin

also makes one drowsy.

I suspect that it would be useful for you women who have trouble coming to orgasm or who

take too long. For \"normal\" men, it would probably lead to premature ejaculation.

Anyone of you ladies ever

tried it or have any in your medicine cabinets?

<hr /></blockquote>

No, don\'t

have any problem with that.

It\'s true that some of the newer antidepressants inhibit orgasm.

On the other

hand, one of them-- Anafranil-- often causes spontaneous orgasm in people when they sneeze (or maybe it\'s when

they yawn-- I forget which)

Anafranil is used for depression, and also for obsessive compulsive disorder.

Kari

12-22-2003, 07:02 AM

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Just yesterday a friend told me

Claritin helps male sexual functioning. I haven\'t personally looked into it.

<hr /></blockquote>

Good, \'cause it\'s overrated as an antihistaminic.

Whitehall

12-22-2003, 03:57 PM

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no woman takes `too long´ to get an orgasm

<hr /></blockquote>

Even when masturbating? Your comment is not particularly well-reasoned and certainly not

true. In fact, a good proportion of women have never had an orgasm - and I can spread myself around only so

far....

From the responses, I guess no one knows much about it (DST, as usual, has an interesting lead). I\'ll

report any substantiative findings

EXIT63

12-22-2003, 06:21 PM

Yeah, let us know how

you make out.

CJ01

12-23-2003, 11:13 AM

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Even when masturbating?

<hr /></blockquote> that

can happen actually, if the woman wants it too be real quick but have trouble concentrating or whatever. Whitehall,

`too long´is just such not very accurate itself is it?
And I mean what I said.

Whitehall

12-23-2003, 11:39 AM

I\'ve heard from

several women who think that they take too long to orgasm or can\'t even have one - in their own judgment. They

would prefer to have easier and quicker orgasms (and more of them) and know that the solution is within themselves

and is not likely to be the fault of the male.

Sure, a clumsy or disinterested male lover can fail to induce an

orgasm for his woman. Most guys know that it is in their own interest to give it a good try for their woman.

I\'ve helped several women have their first orgasm - and loved doing it.

You seemed to jump to the conclusion

that it\'s always all the guy\'s fault. That\'s not true but maybe it is your experience.

Here I\'m

trying to help women and you\'re putting all the responsiblity on men.

bjf

12-23-2003, 11:48 AM

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I\'ve helped several women have their first orgasm - and loved doing it.

<hr /></blockquote>

Pimp!!!

CJ01

12-23-2003, 12:04 PM

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You seemed to jump to the conclusion that it\'s always all the guy\'s

fault.

<hr /></blockquote> No, very often women just take the wrong guy home! Tha´t´s

why I said, all it really takes is a good lover. But not all women are after the same type you see.

You´re

always bringing up this sex/drug thing up and usually in the womens forum.
Did anyone here say `we need help cause

we´re not cumming`? I think you´re kidding when you say you´re trying to `help´the women.

Perhaps lovescent is

the wrong place for it, I mean most of the time. And I really don´t mean this in a rude or offending way!! There

must be other forums that actually deal with such issues, and I think if you really want to find out more and get

tips your best bet is to look there geddit?
Or why not talk to the women in question when you´re with them?

Whitehall

12-23-2003, 12:52 PM

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All it really takes is a good lover

<hr

/></blockquote>

Well, happy hunting then.

CJ01

12-23-2003, 12:55 PM

what you think there´aren´t

any in my part of the world? I can tell you there´s plenty. And I should know!

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CptKipling

12-23-2003, 03:18 PM

Give Whitehall a

break CJ, I fail to see his crime.

Not everybody\'s experiences are the same as yours, I\'m afraid your just

going to have to face up to that.

Besides, it\'s Christmas /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

koolking1

12-24-2003, 04:32 AM

I\'ve been in many

\"swinging\" situations and can say with all honesty (in spite of a highly charged and erotic atmosphere) that

it\'s fairly common for both men and women to not achieve orgasm - viagra may play a role but a lot of guys will

deny using it which I find hard to believe given their hours of \"stamina\" and makes it difficult for me to come

to any real conclusions of why there was no orgasm. And, I\'ve asked many women about it (not having an orgasm in

this type of venue)and they always say that they don\'t mind at all, that it was fun anyways. I do think though

that on a one-to-one basis that CJ is more right than wrong. A knowledgeable and considerate man does help

enormously.

EXIT63

12-24-2003, 04:34 AM

Do swingers use X? Just

curious.

koolking1

12-24-2003, 05:00 AM

not usually as far

as I know but we tend to socialize with folks more our age (early 50s). We did meet one couple who were using it,

they came to our place but the other woman was not interested in me so nothing happened (I had 20 years on her).

She was bisexual though and on x - she did waver quite a bit before deciding \"not to do anything\". Alcohol and

weed use vary from none to overboard (alcohol). Most swinger parties ban all drug use due to the legal issues.

CJ01

12-24-2003, 08:46 AM

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Give Whitehall a break CJ,

<hr /></blockquote>

where´s mine?

Whitehall

12-31-2003, 01:00 PM

So Periactin

supposedly is locally antiserotoinic. That is it doesn\'t cross the blood/brain barrier. That should reduce

serotoinic inhibition in the spinal cord and pedula (sp?) nerves. If a guy took it it might tend to premature

ejaculation.

As to Claritin, I don\'t find any discussion of its local effects that would affect sexual

performance. As with all second and third generation anti-histamines, it doesn\'t cross the blood/brain barrier

either (much).

So what is the story on Claritin effects on males? Does it slow down ejaculation or does it

speed it up? Does it increase volume? I\'ve had seen some effects on sex before from antihistamines but none

were distinctly positive.

Any personal experiences?

Kari

12-31-2003, 01:09 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
So Periactin supposedly is locally antiserotoinic.

That is it doesn\'t cross the blood/brain barrier. That should reduce serotoinic inhibition in the spinal cord

and pedula (sp?) nerves. If a guy took it it might tend to premature ejaculation.

As to Claritin, I don\'t

find any discussion of its local effects that would affect sexual performance. As with all second and third

generation anti-histamines, it doesn\'t cross the blood/brain barrier either (much).

So what is the story on

Claritin effects on males? Does it slow down ejaculation or does it speed it up? Does it increase volume? I\'ve

had seen some effects on sex before from antihistamines but none were distinctly positive.

Any personal

experiences?

<hr /></blockquote>

Nothing in my Nurse\'s Drug Hanbook (which I like

better than the PDR) about sexual side effects. I\'ve never heard of any, with that drug, either.

Whitehall

12-31-2003, 01:14 PM

Kari,

First/second generation antihistamines like Benadryl and Sudafed do affect sexual functions. I remember

retrograde ejaculations from being on Sudafed for a couple of days.

Of course, drug makers don\'t like to talk

about sexual effects as the FDA highly sensitive to such. Witness SSRIs and Wellbutrin.

Kari

12-31-2003, 01:48 PM

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Kari,

First/second generation antihistamines

like Benadryl and Sudafed do affect sexual functions. I remember retrograde ejaculations from being on Sudafed for

a couple of days.

Of course, drug makers don\'t like to talk about sexual effects as the FDA highly sensitive

to such. Witness SSRIs and Wellbutrin.

<hr /></blockquote>

SSRIs are NOTORIOUS,

esp. Prozac. Wellbutrin is better. Claritin is a very different formulation than the above mentioned antihistamines.

Lucky

01-06-2004, 04:00 PM

Whitehall,
I\'ll bet you\'ve \'been doing some research on female orgasms\'!!! Duh.

Seems

like periactin was used long ago for a type of bladder inflammation in women...there\'s your link to the pelvis.

Now, go forth and dispense. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

DrSmellThis

01-06-2004, 04:48 PM

BTW sudafed is

a decongestant.

Whitehall

01-07-2004, 12:36 AM

As to Claritin,

I speculate that its affect on male sexuality is to delay or retard male orgasm.

And yes, Ms. Lucky, I do take a

vital and continued interest in pleasuring females of my acquaintence. I\'d love to extend my pleasuring

activities to the whole female human race but I can only do so through the miracle of the internet.

Lucky

01-08-2004, 07:05 AM

Whitehall -
Your

\'alpha\' attitude is pleasure (isn\'t alpha being discussed in another forum?) to real women. What is better

than a man knowing what he wants, how he feels, and what he learns in the process?

I hate that your services are

limited to the internet. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

SweetBrenda

07-22-2004, 09:48 PM

I\'ve heard

from several women who think that they take too long to orgasm or can\'t even have one - in their own judgment.

They would prefer to have easier and quicker orgasms (and more of them) and know that the solution is within

themselves and is not likely to be the fault of the male.

Sure, a clumsy or disinterested male lover can fail to

induce an orgasm for his woman. Most guys know that it is in their own interest to give it a good try for their

woman. I\'ve helped several women have their first orgasm - and loved doing it.

You seemed to jump to the

conclusion that it\'s always all the guy\'s fault. That\'s not true but maybe it is your experience.

Here

I\'m trying to help women and you\'re putting all the responsiblity on men.I'm afraid to say this but

I'm one of them woman that take a long time to have orgasm unless if I'm really into it. That is why I enjoy

forplay... Helps me a lot to have a quicker orgasm. Also helps having a guy that knows how to do things the right

way takes two to tango though..

koolking1

07-23-2004, 11:00 AM

SweetBrenda

07-23-2004, 11:49 AM

go into any

adult store and you'll see a huge variety of vibrating toys of all shapes and sizes - mostly all for women. Why,

because yes, it takes some of them a good long time and an awful lot of stimulation to have an orgasm. Bisexual

women are big on toys cause they get thinking like guys after a bit "shit, it takes forever to get her

off".I have some toys. And you're correct they do help. I couldn't speak for Bisexual woman thou'. I

said once I was bi-curious never been with another girl so this is more like my fantasy doubt it will ever become

real..

koolking1

07-23-2004, 03:00 PM

nothing wrong with keeping a

fantasy.

SweetBrenda

08-04-2004, 10:13 PM

nothing wrong

with keeping a fantasy.You're very correct. A fantasy is exactly that just a fantasy & there's nothing

wrong with having one or a few.. It helps to keep things exciting. Well for me it does.

burgerama1960

08-05-2004, 07:38 PM

SweetBrenda

08-10-2004, 12:11 PM

There are

alot of so called cremes out there that are suppose to help a girl along towards orgasm. But I never heard from any

girls that have used them to know if they work. Any gals out here use these cremes and do they work?Never

heard of any cremes! I know there's oils to get you in the mood I seen those in the adult stores. For my bday my

friend got one. I think it's all in your mind though.. By rubbing/caressing/massaging the iol with nice scent all

over your lovers body having the thought this oil "supposed to make things hotter/hornier" helps a lot.. But never

seen any cremes..

koolking1

08-10-2004, 12:50 PM

whipped cream can be fun.

bindy

08-11-2004, 10:53 AM

SweetBrenda,
You're so right, it

does help to fantasize. I keep one going all the time, keeps things lively. Also, from what I've read recently,

if women masturbate on a regular basis it helps to achieve orgasm more quickly. I guess because you learn what does

and doesn't work. I don't know, but I'm trying. I'll report back on it. Also, from what I've read most women

don't orgasm during actual intercourse, but a lot can during foreplay....if the guy knows what turns you on. My

husband does, and I achieve orgasm almost every time. Often I take to long, and I just give up, and move on to him.

I think during intercourse, woman on top, not facing the man helps, or doggie style - seems there's more contact

where it's needed. I'm not bi, so I can't comment on that, or on toys, or on SSRIs or Claritin.
Bindy

Whitehall

08-12-2004, 11:06 AM

Two major

topical lotions. One uses l-arginine to engorge the female tissues. An effective, quality, reputable product I can

recommend is Emerita Response Cream. Apply a little to the labia and clitoris and rub. In about 10 minutes, the

tissue will warm and swell and become more sensitive to sexual stimulation.

The other uses hormones. My

favorite is Dermal-XL by Dixie Health. It contains DHEA plus other ingredients in a very fine cream. Makes the

tissues "come alive" in the words of one friend.

If any of you fine LoveScent females would like to try some

and are in the San Francisco Bay Area, send me a personal note.

SweetBrenda

08-12-2004, 05:33 PM

Two major

topical lotions. One uses l-arginine to engorge the female tissues. An effective, quality, reputable product I can

recommend is Emerita Response Cream. Apply a little to the labia and clitoris and rub. In about 10 minutes, the

tissue will warm and swell and become more sensitive to sexual stimulation.

The other uses hormones. My favorite

is Dermal-XL by Dixie Health. It contains DHEA plus other ingredients in a very fine cream. Makes the tissues "come

alive" in the words of one friend.

If any of you fine LoveScent females would like to try some and are in the

San Francisco Bay Area, send me a personal note.Is definitely good to know there's products like those two

to help us enjoy sex a lot more with better results to have one or multiple orgasms.
Thank you Mr Whitehall for

posting this.

Newbie gal

11-20-2004, 09:49 AM

Is the Emerita Response Cream

edible?

Have_Courage

11-20-2004, 05:29 PM

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Newbie gal

11-20-2004, 05:59 PM

Thanks, it seems like a really

good website. I'm surprised that the store owner is a non-Chinese. I'll check it out.

Have_Courage

11-20-2004, 06:18 PM

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Newbie gal

11-20-2004, 06:34 PM

Are you taking CS-4? How much

is a month's consumption? I can't get the price tag without registering.

Have_Courage

11-20-2004, 06:45 PM

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Newbie gal

11-20-2004, 07:13 PM

What type of mushrooms are

they? Grown in Asia?

Have_Courage

11-20-2004, 07:34 PM

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Newbie gal

11-20-2004, 08:20 PM

The mushroom looks a bit

weird. I'm not quite ready to eat caterpillas. But I have saved all the websites so that I can read them this

weekend.

silksand

02-25-2005, 04:38 PM

Hi all, this is my first post. A few years ago I was on an SSRI and consulted a psychopharmacologist about delayed

orgasm with it. (I had tried Wellbutrin, and while it didn't affect sexual response negatively, it also was not

effective for my depression). He suggested trying Periactin or Viagra and gave me prescriptions for both. Periactin

just made me sleepy and dull. Viagra was very helpful - increased lubrication, faster, fuller sexual response and

orgasm. It did make my nose very stuffy, though.

What was really interesting, though, was the herb yohimbe. I

had read about yohimbe (and its pharmacologic cousin, yohimbine) on Serge Kreutz's website

http://www.yohimbe.org/
He's a layperson who has done years of study and experimentation with various

substances (Rx, over-the-counter, and herbal preparations) that enhance libido, response and performance primarily

in men. I found some yohimbe at my local Rite-Aid drug store for about $8. The first time I tried it, I took a whole

pill (equivalent to 9 mg active ingredient) and it was quite effective in not only enhancing sexual experience in

all the ways Viagra does, but it also has stimulant effects to the degree that I was sleepless for over 24 hours. On

subsequent experimentation, I took half a pill and had all the benefits but no trouble sleeping, though it still

enlivened my mind and creativity. Unfortunately if you take it on a daily basis, its effects lessen dramatically. So

yohimbe is nice for special occasions.