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Bruce
12-19-2003, 11:43 AM
Ladies,

This

might be off topic, but I wanted to get maximum feedback from women. Can you please clue a dummy in on the use of

vibrators? What I want to know is would one make a good gift from a guy and maybe more importantly, is it a thing

that you can have fun with as a couple or is it more of a solo activity.

Thanks in advance,
Bruce

Elana
12-19-2003, 12:09 PM
This is a

subject that I know very well. I was a buyer for adult sex toys and lingerie.

Here we go.....

If your wife is

only able to have orgasms from external/clitoral stimulation, than you would want to get her a hard plastic one.

Those are usually not phallic shaped and can come in a variety of colors. They also have tiny vibrators that have

thin elastic bands on that can be worn by a woman and it stimulates the clit. She could have her hands free with

this model.

If she has orgasms easily from internal stimulation then you can get her a nice gel vibrator. Those

usually have a base that turns to control the vibrations. I would advice against the plug in types. They are very

inconvenient and tend to be noisier.

My all time favorite (and I have tried dozens) is the one the does

everything. The shaft usually has beads in it rotates and goes up and down. There is also an external part that

stimulates the clit. You can turn on whatever part you want. I\'ll post a picture of one in a second.

Can they

be fun for a couple to use? OH YES! You haven\'t tried it yet. Hurry and get one. They are wonderful to use with a

partner.

Elana
12-19-2003, 12:11 PM
I think

this type is the

best.

http://www.blowfish.com/catalog/toy

s/japanese_vibrators.html (\"http://www.blowfish.com/catalog/toys/japanese_vibrators.html\")

Sexyredhead
12-19-2003, 12:41 PM
Wow,

that looks like fun! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

I think it

would be a good private Christmas gift, but you might want to have something else under the tree so she doesn\'t

blush every time someone asks her what you got her for Christmas. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Elana
12-19-2003, 01:18 PM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
but you might want to have something else under the

tree so she doesn\'t blush every time someone asks her what you got her for Christmas.


<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> That would probably be a very good idea.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Sagacious1420
12-19-2003, 01:34 PM
Bruce-

Toys can definitely be great fun for two. Among the ladies I know who are into toys, the Rabbit series

gets rave reviews.

Bruce
12-19-2003, 01:50 PM
Thanks for

all the feedback. I went ahead and ordered a g-spot type one, mainly because it looks more like something to play

with as a couple. I looked at a number of variations on the rabbit and was tempted, but gosh! I got the feeling

I\'d be puting myself out of a job with a contraption like that. Once you get the thing in place, what do you

need a guy for? :-) \"Honey, you might as well go ahead and fix the tea and see what\'s on TV. I should be

just about done by then.\" The g-spot thingy, I can imagine myself providing some useful service.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
I also ordered one of them new-fangled Slightest Touch gizmos,

and a Kama Sutra variety pack (all Fed Ex), so we should be rockin\' and rollin\' by New years. Still gotta

score some sexy undies.

As far as the under the tree thing: I\'ll have a lot of other stuff there we can open

with the kids on Christmas morning.

Many many thanks. I think this is going be great.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

B

Holmes
12-19-2003, 01:56 PM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
As far as the under the tree thing: I\'ll have a

lot of other stuff there we can open with the kids on Christmas morning.

<hr /></blockquote><font

class=\"post\">

Please don\'t mix up the presents!


Holmes

CJ01
12-19-2003, 02:02 PM
Oh FUKE! My

reply´s just been deleted fuking fork! Í started writing it after Elanas first post and just finished (after I was

`forced´to take a break) and now it´s GONE!
Don´t think I´ll manage tonight, but hopefully Bruce tomorrow won´t

be too late /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

CJ01
12-19-2003, 02:04 PM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />


Quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

but you might want to

have something else under the tree so she doesn\'t blush every time someone asks her what you got her for

Christmas.



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

That would

probably be a very good idea.



<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> hehehe indeedy

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

CJ01
12-19-2003, 02:06 PM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Thanks for all the feedback. I went ahead and

ordered a g-spot type one, mainly because it looks more like something to play with as a couple. I looked at a

number of variations on the rabbit and was tempted, but gosh! I got the feeling I\'d be puting myself out of a job

with a contraption like that. Once you get the thing in place, what do you need a guy for? :-) \"Honey, you might

as well go ahead and fix the tea and see what\'s on TV. I should be just about done by then.\" The g-spot thingy,

I can imagine myself providing some useful service.
I also ordered one of them new-fangled Slightest Touch gizmos,

and a Kama Sutra variety pack (all Fed Ex), so we should be rockin\' and rollin\' by New years. Still gotta

score some sexy undies.

As far as the under the tree thing: I\'ll have a lot of other stuff there we can open

with the kids on Christmas morning.

Many many thanks. I think this is going be great.

B


<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> too bad it´s already too late

Elana
12-19-2003, 02:08 PM
mmmmmm Kama

Sutra. Love all of their products! The Oil of Love is the best.

CJ01
12-19-2003, 02:17 PM
this thread´s

just too much, I´ve been feeling really H*rny all day. Talking about the kama sutra is almost too much

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

EXIT63
12-19-2003, 02:38 PM
pocket

rocket

CJ01
12-19-2003, 02:41 PM
huh? Suppose

I´m not the only one who´s been sampling ?

Pancho1188
12-19-2003, 02:46 PM
Bruce,

Just looking out for you, man, but didn\'t you say your wife was sexually reserved? Are you sure this

sort of thing isn\'t going to make her uncomfortable? Not saying you shouldn\'t do it because it\'s a good

idea, but just wondering how you\'re going to present these gifts when you said she\'s not the type to bring

these things up. I just don\'t want you to get into anything if something unexpected happens and she opens up the

gifts and you see her face turn bright red and she goes nuts. I\'m sure it\'ll be fine, but I was just being

precautious. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif I hope it goes well for you!

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

On the note of vibrators, I\'ve heard some women go as far as

to claim they\'re better than men because men can\'t thrust, twist, and vibrate at the same time. I\'ve even

heard a cocky (pun INTENDED) woman say that a man could never satisfy her like a vibrator but there\'s no

replacement for a woman for men. However, I\'ve heard from other women that they are nice sometimes, but nothing

can beat the feel of a man\'s skin. Needless to say, I like the second group\'s views better...

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Bruce
12-19-2003, 02:57 PM
Pancho,
Yeah, she is very shy, but we\'ve sort of talked about it before and she is willing to give it a try.

Actually the shyness was a factor in steering clear of the one with all the fancy gadgets and gizmos bursting out

all over.

RE your other point: I don\'t think men will become obsolete from these machines. Apples and oranges

really, isn\'t it? Guys could never do all the gymnastics these things can do, but there\'s gotta be something

nice about being conected to another human being, gazing into his/her eyes. Kinda hard to beat that stuff.

B

Elana
12-19-2003, 03:03 PM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
However, I\'ve heard from other women that they

are nice sometimes, but nothing can beat the feel of a man\'s skin.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">



Oh totally! It\'s nowhere even near the same. Nothing is better than a real man.

Elana
12-19-2003, 03:06 PM
a piece of

plastic isn\'t exactly a turn on either. Maybe if you spray it with some none and tape a picture of your favorite

naked man to it. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

DrSmellThis
12-19-2003, 03:14 PM
Oh to

see Bruce\'s face \"when\" the presents get mixed up. A new shade of red will be invented, along with stories

about the incompetent people at the toy store.

bjf
12-19-2003, 03:19 PM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Oh to see Bruce\'s face \"when\" the presents

get mixed up. A new shade of red will be invented, along with stories about the incompetent people at the toy store.



<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

And maybe the parents will be on hand too!


Elana -- what

about compared to latex??

Holmes
12-19-2003, 03:20 PM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Oh to see Bruce\'s face \"when\" the presents

get mixed up. A new shade of red will be invented, along with stories about the incompetent people at the toy

store.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif


Holmes

koolking1
12-19-2003, 03:34 PM
that,

as I call it, wacky wabbit thing, is too much for my GF - brings tears to her eyes so we don\'t own one. If you

want to spend the big bucks, there\'s also the Sybian - you must know of that one Elana, no? Another toy we

don\'t have - costs about $1500 but we\'ve seen them at swinger\'s parties. My question for clitoral

stimulation to the ladies would be: your own hand or a clitoral stimulator - which works best???

Elana
12-19-2003, 07:04 PM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
your own hand or a clitoral stimulator - which works

best???


<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

The stimulator makes me cum too fast. I also tend to

get addicted to toys, so I stick with the hand. Toys are only for special occasions.

FTR told a story about the

Sybian. Do a search. She didn\'t have much luck with it.

Sagacious1420
12-19-2003, 08:24 PM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
The stimulator makes me cum too fast.

<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

lol. I know a couple of women who say that about vibrators, in general.

They prefer a dildo...well, actually they prefer the real thing, but when in need....

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Kari
12-19-2003, 10:39 PM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
This is a subject that I know very well. I was a

buyer for adult sex toys and lingerie.

Here we go.....

If your wife is only able to have orgasms from

external/clitoral stimulation, than you would want to get her a hard plastic one. Those are usually not phallic

shaped and can come in a variety of colors. They also have tiny vibrators that have thin elastic bands on that can

be worn by a woman and it stimulates the clit. She could have her hands free with this model.

If she has orgasms

easily from internal stimulation then you can get her a nice gel vibrator. Those usually have a base that turns to

control the vibrations. I would advice against the plug in types. They are very inconvenient and tend to be

noisier.

My all time favorite (and I have tried dozens) is the one the does everything. The shaft usually has

beads in it rotates and goes up and down. There is also an external part that stimulates the clit. You can turn on

whatever part you want. I\'ll post a picture of one in a second.

Can they be fun for a couple to use? OH YES!

You haven\'t tried it yet. Hurry and get one. They are wonderful to use with a partner.

<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

There are also panties with a gel liner that can be operated by remote

control.

Kari
12-19-2003, 10:41 PM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Bruce-

Toys can definitely be great fun for two.

Among the ladies I know who are into toys, the Rabbit series gets rave reviews.

<hr /></blockquote><font

class=\"post\">

I have heard many good things about that one.

Kari
12-19-2003, 10:43 PM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Bruce,

Just looking out for you, man, but

didn\'t you say your wife was sexually reserved? Are you sure this sort of thing isn\'t going to make her

uncomfortable? Not saying you shouldn\'t do it because it\'s a good idea, but just wondering how you\'re

going to present these gifts when you said she\'s not the type to bring these things up. I just don\'t want you

to get into anything if something unexpected happens and she opens up the gifts and you see her face turn bright red

and she goes nuts. I\'m sure it\'ll be fine, but I was just being precautious.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif I hope it goes well for you!

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

On the note of vibrators, I\'ve heard some women go as far as

to claim they\'re better than men because men can\'t thrust, twist, and vibrate at the same time. I\'ve even

heard a cocky (pun INTENDED) woman say that a man could never satisfy her like a vibrator but there\'s no

replacement for a woman for men. However, I\'ve heard from other women that they are nice sometimes, but nothing

can beat the feel of a man\'s skin. Needless to say, I like the second group\'s views better...

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Nothing beats a warm, sweet, breathing, live, man.

Kari
12-19-2003, 10:45 PM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
that, as I call it, wacky wabbit thing, is too much

for my GF - brings tears to her eyes so we don\'t own one. If you want to spend the big bucks, there\'s also

the Sybian - you must know of that one Elana, no? Another toy we don\'t have - costs about $1500 but we\'ve

seen them at swinger\'s parties. My question for clitoral stimulation to the ladies would be: your own hand or a

clitoral stimulator - which works best???

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

What\'s the Sybian?

Kari
12-19-2003, 10:47 PM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font

class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
As far as the under the tree thing: I\'ll have a lot of other stuff there

we can open with the kids on Christmas morning.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Please don\'t mix

up the presents!


Holmes

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Uh-huh. \"Daddy? What\'s this

plastic bunny, with the wiggly ears?\"

Icarus
12-20-2003, 04:33 AM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Nothing beats a warm, sweet, breathing, live, man.



<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

The LAPD do.

my girlfriend doesn\'t really dig vibrators

that much: she feels lonely going solo using a machine rather than her hand. Go figure.

Amusing fact: The

first time we were together, she faked an orgasm (thinking it was what she was \'supposed\' to do when having

sex), but clever old me recognised the \'act\' from the actual event and subsequently gave her the first

(of many) genuine orgasms! She can even do it on her own now.

Dunno where that fits in, I\'m just proud.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Steve

P.S. Doesn\'t Pride always proceed the Fall?

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

P.P.S. Don\'t mock her lack of orgasm until age 19, it

was her upbringing. She\'s no prude! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Elana
12-20-2003, 05:03 AM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Dunno where that fits in, I\'m just proud.



<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

As you should be, SsssssSTUD

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Icarus
12-20-2003, 05:11 AM
I live to

give /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Holmes
12-20-2003, 05:29 AM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
\"Daddy? What\'s this plastic bunny, with the

wiggly ears?\"

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Why, kids, it\'s...it\'s Jedi Bunny.

Cool lightsaber, huh?


Holmes

Elana
12-20-2003, 06:28 AM
I had an

embarrassing experience once during my college days. I had a house full of people over. I kept all of my toys in a

locked file cabinet next to my bed. One started doing its thing on its own. I was dying. Everyone was trying to

figure out where the sound was coming from. When they located the vibrating file cabinet, everyone stood around

waiting for me to open it. I must have had 15-20 different toys inside and I was not about to expose the extent of

my pervertedness to my roommates sorority sisters. My friend who knew the dirty me, just started hitting it really

hard until it finally stopped. That was almost as embarrassing as my roommate walking in on me watching solo man

porn. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

Kari
12-20-2003, 07:35 AM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font

class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Nothing beats a warm, sweet, breathing, live, man.

<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

The LAPD do.

my girlfriend doesn\'t really dig vibrators that much:

she feels lonely going solo using a machine rather than her hand. Go figure.

Amusing fact: The first time

we were together, she faked an orgasm (thinking it was what she was \'supposed\' to do when having sex), but

clever old me recognised the \'act\' from the actual event and subsequently gave her the first (of many)

genuine orgasms! She can even do it on her own now.

Dunno where that fits in, I\'m just proud.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Steve

P.S. Doesn\'t Pride always proceed the Fall?

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

P.P.S. Don\'t mock her lack of orgasm until age 19, it

was her upbringing. She\'s no prude! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

VERY proud of you, Sexy Scot! If she had hooked up with a less sensitive

man, she mighta died a (figuartive) virgin! You did good, honey!

Lotta guys woulda been fooled by the \"When

Harry Met Sally\" routine, BTW.

There IS one guy who mighta beat you. Friend of mine. Gave a lady her first Big

O when she was 63.

Kari
12-20-2003, 07:37 AM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font

class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Nothing beats a warm, sweet, breathing, live, man.

<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

The LAPD do.

my girlfriend doesn\'t really dig vibrators that much:

she feels lonely going solo using a machine rather than her hand. Go figure.

Amusing fact: The first time

we were together, she faked an orgasm (thinking it was what she was \'supposed\' to do when having sex), but

clever old me recognised the \'act\' from the actual event and subsequently gave her the first (of many)

genuine orgasms! She can even do it on her own now.

Dunno where that fits in, I\'m just proud.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Steve

P.S. Doesn\'t Pride always proceed the Fall?

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

P.P.S. Don\'t mock her lack of orgasm until age 19, it

was her upbringing. She\'s no prude! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

BTW-- Re; g.f. and prudery-- often the violin has never made exquisite

music, because it has never been in the hands of a fine musician.

Kari
12-20-2003, 07:38 AM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
I live to give

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

And,

there\'s a FINE tilt, under your kilt.

Sagacious1420
12-20-2003, 02:00 PM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Amusing fact: The first time we were together, she

faked an orgasm (thinking it was what she was \'supposed\' to do when having sex), but clever old me

recognised the \'act\' from the actual event and subsequently gave her the first (of many) genuine orgasms! She

can even do it on her own now.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">Cool dude! Makes you feel pretty

awesome when you can help a girl out like that, huh. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif I\'m sure it

makes her feel good about herself to realize that she can actually have one. I once dated a girl who was

dealing w/ some personal issues because she had never been able to achieve an orgasm...she genuinely thought there

might be something wrong w/ her. Not only did she have her first Big O, she had her first multiple and I ended up

having my first stalker. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr

/>
Dunno where that fits in, I\'m just proud. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> Hey, why not?

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr

/>
Don\'t mock her lack of orgasm until age 19, it was her upbringing. She\'s no prude!

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> Yea, I\'ve

encountered that type before. Kinda sad, really.

</font><blockquote><font

class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
If she had hooked up with a less sensitive man, she mighta died a

(figuartive) virgin!

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> And that would be just soooo wrong!

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr

/>
Lotta guys woulda been fooled by the \"When Harry Met Sally\" routine, BTW.

<hr /></blockquote><font

class=\"post\"> I suppose that\'s possible, but I just don\'t see how they could be so dense or gullible.

But, then again, if the guy doesn\'t have a sexual clue, then he probably would, huh.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr

/>
Friend of mine. Gave a lady her first Big O when she was 63.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> 63?

That\'s truly sad. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

EXIT63
12-20-2003, 08:42 PM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Friend of mine. Gave a lady her first Big O when

she was 63.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

63? That\'s

truly sad.



<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

For him or her?

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Sagacious1420
12-21-2003, 02:27 AM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font

class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Friend of mine. Gave a lady her first Big O when she was

63.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

63? That\'s truly

sad.



<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

For him or her?

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

lol!

depends......./ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif......actually I was referring to her.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Kari
12-21-2003, 06:23 AM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font

class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Friend of mine. Gave a lady her first Big O when she was

63.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

63? That\'s truly

sad.



<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

For him or her?

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Her. BTW--

she was a Southern fundie Christian. That probably explains it.

Pancho1188
12-21-2003, 06:16 PM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
I had an embarrassing experience once during my

college days. I had a house full of people over. I kept all of my toys in a locked file cabinet next to my bed. One

started doing its thing on its own. I was dying. Everyone was trying to figure out where the sound was coming from.

When they located the vibrating file cabinet, everyone stood around waiting for me to open it. I must have had 15-20

different toys inside and I was not about to expose the extent of my pervertedness to my roommates sorority sisters.

My friend who knew the dirty me, just started hitting it really hard until it finally stopped. That was almost as

embarrassing as my roommate walking in on me watching solo man porn.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

What a good

friend... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Elana
12-21-2003, 06:40 PM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
What a good friend...



<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

He really was. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif