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squaw
12-16-2003, 01:03 PM
Ok first post

here, kinda new with the mones, I did read to the 300th page of this board though.

Just ordered NPA a week ago.

I did order Alter ego, but it was from somewhere else. the bottle looked legit but ive tried it for over a month

without anything unusual. I did read another post about someone ordering AE from some other company which it smelled

like a bandaid, as mine does, which didn\'t work for him either.

Anyway, The woman that I\'m after is a

smoker, and I read all over that smokey rooms can negatively effect mones, so will this make it harder for her to

notice me?

I am 27 she is 30. I can be \"bad\", but knowing what this woman has been through with her adusive

husband, I don\'t feel comfortable being like that with her, which left me as \"the nice guy\".

I think the

AE might have had an effect on her a few times, I used 2 drops when I went to her place to watch her kids for her

then about 5-4 hours i refreshed with 2 dabs from a perfume sampler, so would that be 3 drops? Ive tried 3 drops at

once and i think it might have made her angry plus her kids were there usual evil selves. But both times I tried 2+

a refresh before she got home one day her and me were sitting at her table when a guy she works with came by. we all

sat at the table with him across the table from me and her in between. but she completely turned her body towards me

and talked with me, it was like she was ignoring him.

And like a week ago after she came home from work we talked

for a while, but she usualy claims to go to sleep and kicks me out shortly after she comes home. I know the guy she

works with usualy comes by after i leave, but I think he comes over there with drugs for her. I hate that, but thats

her I guess. Tattoos, anger, love, kids, tushie and toesies and everything else that is her is what I love about

her.

So that\'s why the NPA is my choice. I think she just sees me as a friend now, She knows how I feel about

her, she said looks dont matter to her, but said she doesnt want to screw up our friendship. I hope NPA and a change

of my attitude will change her mind, I know she likes the bad boys. I feel like just the babysitter now.

I know

what most of you here think of smokers, me too, I don\'t smoke, but this woman is amazing, and I want her more

than words can say. I\'m going to post the whole story about us soon to see what others here can make any

suggestions on how to get her.

CJ01
12-16-2003, 01:09 PM
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am 27 she is 30. I can be \"bad\", but knowing

what this woman has been through with her adusive husband, I don\'t feel comfortable being like that with her,

which left me as \"the nice guy\".


<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> say what?

the answer to

your question though is no basically.
welcome to the forum btw

CJ

Elana
12-16-2003, 01:09 PM
Smoking will

be the least of your problems. I just checked out your profile/website. If you keep this girl on a pedestal, you

will never get what you want. I sure hope she doesn\'t know about your shrine to her.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Welcome to the forum.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

franki
12-16-2003, 01:11 PM
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If you keep this girl on a pedestal, you will

never get what you want. I sure hope she doesn\'t know about your shrine to her.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif



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class=\"post\">

That\'s right. You probably have to treat her like sh** to get her.

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Oh yeah, welcome to the forum.

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Elana
12-16-2003, 01:12 PM
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If you keep this girl on a pedestal, you will never get what you want. I

sure hope she doesn\'t know about your shrine to her. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif





<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

That\'s right. You probably have to treat her like sh** to get

her. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Stop it,

Franki. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

CJ01
12-16-2003, 01:13 PM
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If you keep this girl on a pedestal, you will never

get what you want.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> I wouldn´t mind

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/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

squaw
12-16-2003, 01:15 PM
i think im

going to back off for a while, I think she got the idea about how I feel about her and that I care, but really,

it\'s time for her to buy the cow and stop getting the milk for free.

just give her a hint of the other side of

me and leave for a while. I dont want to sound like an arrogant ahole, but she needs me more than she thinks

Elana
12-16-2003, 01:16 PM
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If you keep this girl on a pedestal, you will never get what you want.



<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> I wouldn´t mind /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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Did you read his post? When he leaves another man is coming over. It

doesn\'t seem like things are working too well this way, does it? He seems to be a great babysitter, but if she is

kicking him out as soon as she gets home..that\'s all he is right now. A babysitter

CJ01
12-16-2003, 01:17 PM
hehe, just

checked that profile. Dunno whether to say, sort some little things out or just laugh. One interesting point

though made though, same goes for some guys.

squaw
12-16-2003, 01:18 PM
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am 27 she is 30. I can be \"bad\", but knowing what this woman has been

through with her adusive husband, I don\'t feel comfortable being like that with her, which left me as \"the nice

guy\".


<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> say what?

the answer to your question though is no

basically.
welcome to the forum btw

CJ

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
thanks for the

welcome
no to what? the smoker thing, or no to getting her?

Icarus
12-16-2003, 01:18 PM
Don\'t

want to sound offensive, but from what you\'ve described, she may be taking you for a chump.

Um... Welcome to

the board, though! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Grow a beard. That\'ll help.

Steve

CJ01
12-16-2003, 01:20 PM
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she may be taking you for a chump.

<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> or he´s being too impatient. Maybe she´s just not that interseted, in the

same way.
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Elana
12-16-2003, 01:25 PM
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Don\'t want to sound offensive, but from what

you\'ve described, she may be taking you for a chump.

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Unless

you forgot to mention the good stuff, I agree with Ssssssst. It doesn\'t appear to be the healthiest situation for

you to be in. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Elana
12-16-2003, 01:32 PM
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i think im going to back off for a while, I think

she got the idea about how I feel about her and that I care, but really, it\'s time for her to buy the cow and

stop getting the milk for free.

just give her a hint of the other side of me and leave for a while. I dont want

to sound like an arrogant ahole, but she needs me more than she thinks

<hr /></blockquote><font

class=\"post\">

That\'s probably a very good idea. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Holmes
12-16-2003, 01:35 PM
I\'d

say.


Holmes

squaw
12-16-2003, 01:39 PM
She told me

before that a lot of her relationships ended because the guy always thought she was sleeping around with someone

else, which wasn\'t true. and whenever I thought something was going on with her and someone, I was always wrong.

so about this other guy I think its just the drugs, and she knows that I hate that sh!t.

But hey back to my

question ok, with her smoking, will it be harder for her to sence the mones?

Elana
12-16-2003, 01:41 PM
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But hey back to my question ok, with her smoking,

will it be harder for her to sence the mones?

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Yes

squaw
12-16-2003, 01:53 PM
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</font><blockquote><font

class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
i think im going to back off for a while, I think she got the idea about how

I feel about her and that I care, but really, it\'s time for her to buy the cow and stop getting the milk for

free.

just give her a hint of the other side of me and leave for a while. I dont want to sound like an arrogant

ahole, but she needs me more than she thinks

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

That\'s probably a

very good idea. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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class=\"post\">

she gets kind of possesive to, like one day she called like 14 times but I didn\'t answer

(just ignoring her!) than the next day she called and told me she was trying to call all night. I said i just got

back. she asked \"where, from texas?\" I thought hey you had you chance to \"own me\"

I am going with

Phantoms post from a while back. Ignore her for a while and come back like my feeling for her have gone and ive

moved on. Then never tell her again. when we first met she was very flirty which I thought was odd. but there was no

fellings for her, until one day i realized there might be something there. and when I told her it kinda stopped. I

know what you all want to say, I thought about it too. thats what I mean, women want men who don\'t want them and

when the guy does admit they want her, she doesnt want them. I loved women and respected them until I fell in love

with one. Who cares anymore.

CJ01
12-16-2003, 01:54 PM
I already said

no I mean the difference is minute!
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif I know for sure I even

buzz myself out sometimes /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

squaw
12-16-2003, 01:55 PM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font

class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
But hey back to my question ok, with her smoking, will it be harder for her

to sence the mones?

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Yes

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class=\"post\">
So should I try using more drops or just give it more time?

Holmes
12-16-2003, 01:56 PM
Sorry dude,

but that sounds like a weird situation.

Back away slowly. For a while, anyway.


Holmes

Elana
12-16-2003, 01:59 PM
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Sorry dude, but that sounds like a weird

situation.

Back away slowly.

Holmes

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Slowly? I

say run for your life.

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
but this woman is

amazing,

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

a drug using Mother, doesn\'t sound like such an

awesome catch.

CJ01
12-16-2003, 02:01 PM
hm, depends on

the drugs /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif oh

well, just be friends

belgareth
12-16-2003, 02:02 PM
Squaw,



you really need to get out and meet some other women. From everything you\'ve said so far it sounds like

she is using you for a babysitter and companion, nothing more. Even if that is wrong, if you do get together she is

not going to change her behavoir, she is still going to be hanging out with these guys and doing drugs. Looking at

it from here it sounds like you are walking into a lot of hurt.

Holmes
12-16-2003, 02:03 PM
Definitely.


Holmes

belgareth
12-16-2003, 02:04 PM
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Sorry dude, but that sounds like a weird situation.

Back away

slowly.

Holmes

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Slowly? I say run for your

life.

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
but this woman is amazing,

<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

a drug using Mother, doesn\'t sound like such an awesome catch.



<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

What she said

CJ01
12-16-2003, 02:06 PM
Why is she

using him? If you are friends you help each other out. And helping someone doesn´t entitle one to a shag.
Dunno,

but after what you´ve written about her ex and stuff, it wouldn´t surprise me if she´d rather have some time off

from relationships and the like.

belgareth
12-16-2003, 02:08 PM
Maybe

using is the wrong word. I think he is in the \'Let\'s Just Be Friends\' zone and he has little chance of

going beyond that.

Elana
12-16-2003, 02:09 PM
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Why is she using him? If you are friends you help

each other out. And helping someone doesn´t entitle one to a shag.
Dunno, but after what you´ve written about her

ex and stuff, it wouldn´t surprise me if she´d rather have some time off from relationships and the like.

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/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

As soon as she gets home she tells him that she is sleepy so he should

leave. Then another guy comes over.

All of her other boyfriends used to accuse her of sleeping around. I wonder

why all of them would do that if she really wasn\'t. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

CJ..how

much wine have you had tonight? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

squaw
12-16-2003, 02:11 PM
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Squaw,

you really need to get out and meet some

other women. From everything you\'ve said so far it sounds like she is using you for a babysitter and companion,

nothing more. Even if that is wrong, if you do get together she is not going to change her behavoir, she is still

going to be hanging out with these guys and doing drugs. Looking at it from here it sounds like you are walking into

a lot of hurt.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
she changed before, it was a lot worse. we met in

an adult education program. she tried to get her life back together after leaving her abusive husband, quit drugs.

then she gets a job where she works for minimum wage and works crappy hours to pay bills and keep everything going,

then her dad dies who she hadnt seen in 13 years. she came back here just enough to spend about 7 months with him.

that is what put her over the edge. she started drinking a lot too. I told her that if she keeps drinking, I\'ve

got no reason to be here anymore, she doesnt feel the same way as I do about us, so what was the point? she really

slowed down on the drinking and im sure she will stop soon. so I guess I mean something to her right?

CJ01
12-16-2003, 02:11 PM
I don´t see

that being a problem

CJ01
12-16-2003, 02:14 PM
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I told her that if she keeps drinking, I\'ve got

no reason to be here anymore, she doesnt feel the same way as I do about us, so what was the point? she really

slowed down on the drinking and im sure she will stop soon. so I guess I mean something to her right?



<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> hehe, you´re lucky, in the wrong mood she could have told you to just ******,

you know /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Doesn´t mean she wants you for a bf though, not

necessarily. Still positive though. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Holmes
12-16-2003, 02:15 PM
To quote an

esteemed member of this forum:

\"I smell a disaster in the making.\"

Or at least a very bumpy

ride.


Holmes

Kari
12-16-2003, 02:26 PM
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</font><blockquote><font

class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Sorry dude,

but that sounds like a weird situation.

Back away slowly.

Holmes

<hr /></blockquote><font

class=\"post\">

Slowly? I say run for your life.

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class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
but this woman is amazing,

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">



a drug using Mother, doesn\'t sound like such an awesome catch.

<hr /></blockquote><font

class=\"post\">

What she said

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

I don\'t think this is

gonna work out well, at all. The lady has some problems, and is probably more than one kind of user.

belgareth
12-16-2003, 02:26 PM
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I don´t see that being a problem

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/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

I do because he has romantic intentions and it sounds like she doesn\'t.

She may care about him but not as a lover. If he keeps pursuing it and trying to change her he will sooner or later

end up hurt IMO.

Holmes
12-16-2003, 02:33 PM
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She may care about him but not as a lover.

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/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Yeah. To me, that\'s the icing on the cake. How many layers of impending

failure can a situation possibly promise?

Sorry to sound like a naysayer. Just my (very humble) opinion. (Maybe

you were \"meant\" to be together, I don\'t know...

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif)


Holmes

CJ01
12-16-2003, 02:53 PM
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Quote:
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I don´t see that being a

problem


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I do because

he has romantic intentions and it sounds like she doesn\'t.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> yes, I

meant in general it shouldn´t be a problem. In a case like this it´s always difficult.

Sometimes persistance

does pay off though, just a thought.


No need to lay into that woman though like everybody is.

belgareth
12-16-2003, 03:00 PM
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I don´t see that being a

problem


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I do because

he has romantic intentions and it sounds like she doesn\'t.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> yes, I

meant in general it shouldn´t be a problem. In a case like this it´s always difficult.

Sometimes persistance

does pay off though, just a thought.


No need to lay into that woman though like everybody is.


<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Not really trying to lay into her. I am just voicing an opinion based on a

few old bruises and scars. Nothing like fond memories to make a person wary.

squaw
12-16-2003, 03:01 PM
Just going

to back off for a while. maybe she will figure out whos got her back.
I told her once about how she always picks

the guy who she knows will hurt her, when I told her that it seemed like she was really thinking about what I

said.
She said everything is to screwed up in her life for anything right now.
But her mom and dad were best

friends before and they were together 34 years, so thats a good sigh i guess

Elana
12-16-2003, 03:09 PM
BTW Congrats

on losing all of that weight. That\'s awesome. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Pancho1188
12-16-2003, 03:18 PM
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Squaw,

you really need to get out and meet some other women. From

everything you\'ve said so far it sounds like she is using you for a babysitter and companion, nothing more. Even

if that is wrong, if you do get together she is not going to change her behavoir, she is still going to be hanging

out with these guys and doing drugs. Looking at it from here it sounds like you are walking into a lot of hurt.



<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
she changed before, it was a lot worse. we met in an adult education

program. she tried to get her life back together after leaving her abusive husband, quit drugs. then she gets a job

where she works for minimum wage and works crappy hours to pay bills and keep everything going, then her dad dies

who she hadnt seen in 13 years. she came back here just enough to spend about 7 months with him. that is what put

her over the edge. she started drinking a lot too. I told her that if she keeps drinking, I\'ve got no reason to

be here anymore, she doesnt feel the same way as I do about us, so what was the point? she really slowed down on the

drinking and im sure she will stop soon. so I guess I mean something to her right?

<hr /></blockquote><font

class=\"post\">

I\'m going to say something very out of character. In other words, I\'m going to be biased

and presumptious as hell...

Dude, you\'re in way over your head here. Drugs, alcohol, smoking, kids, abusive

exs, strange guys coming over at the end of the night... This is huge stuff. She\'s not ready for a relationship

until she can take care of herself. Frankly, ask yourself whether you are prepared for such a task. She\'s

leaning onto you as a friend and nothing more. She\'s not leading you on, though, you\'re interpreting her

actions as leading you on. She cares about you a lot...as a friend. That\'s it, man. I know the type. I\'ve

been there. Take care of yourself, continue to be her friend if you wish, but MOVE ON... That\'s way too much to

go through and not enough reward. I just turned down hanging out with my ex-gf (actually, hanging out for the last

time because I\'m graduating) because it\'s over, man. Cut yourself loose. But that\'s just my opinion, I

could be wrong. I\'m sorry if I am, and I wish you the best either way.

Pancho

CJ01
12-16-2003, 03:33 PM
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WELL KINDO OF QUOTE: Drugs, alcohol,

smoking,(kids)strange guys coming over at the end of the night...

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you mean that´s bad? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Don´t take me the wrong way but to me that sounds pretty normal

to me. Reminds me off college /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

koolking1
12-16-2003, 08:20 PM
your

best bet would be to bring along some really good looking woman next time you babysit. Then, if the one you are so

hot for congratulates you for finding such a good looking girlfriend, you\'ll know you don\'t have a chance with

her. But then you won\'t care anyways cause you\'ll have the other one you brought along to babysit with you.

Yes, am stoned.

SwingerMD
12-16-2003, 08:38 PM
Squaw,

Read this:

http://www.server2.love-scent.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Bo

ard=UBB5&amp;Number=19771&amp;page=&amp;view=&amp;sb=5&amp;o=&amp;fpart=1&amp; vc=1 (\"http://www.server2.love-scent.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Board=UBB5&amp;Number=19771&amp;page=&amp

;view=&amp;sb=5&amp;o=&amp;fpart=1&amp;vc=1\")

After reading through

your entire thread I had the spooky feeling that I\'ve read something like this on the forum before. You\'re

situation may not exactly be like what JDM\'s was but, there are some similiarities. In fact after reading this

thread I think you should PM him for some advice.

--------------------

<font color=\"blue\"> -SwingerMD

</font>

EXIT63
12-17-2003, 04:31 AM
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Squaw,

you really need to get out and meet some

other women. From everything you\'ve said so far it sounds like she is using you for a babysitter and companion,

nothing more. Even if that is wrong, if you do get together she is not going to change her behavoir, she is still

going to be hanging out with these guys and doing drugs. Looking at it from here it sounds like you are walking into

a lot of hurt.


<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Allright,

What Bel said is exactly right.

I could say the same thing a lot less diplomatically but I\'d probably get flamed.

Forget about backing off for

a while. Back off permanently.

This broad is not worth the trouble. You\'re in the LJBF zone and you\'re

not getting out. Period.

Girls don\'t like bootlickers. They like men. Think about it.

DrSmellThis
12-17-2003, 05:13 AM
Screw getting flamed. Aaaargh! This is really sad, Squaw, but I feel angry reading all

this. You don\'t know me, and I\'ve no right to say anything, but one man to another: I hurt for you. Look, you

sound like a real great guy. But reach down right now and grab your nuts! Listen. You are acting like a passive

sodomite bi-atch! Why not go all the way with your approach -- grow a ratty beard, sleep in a hole for several days,

and then send her footage of an army doctor scraping your tonsils!! Then she\'ll really love you. F*ck! I\'m

almost absolutely sure you\'ll never, ever get her! No matter what you do. It\'s way too far gone. Forget her

forever. It makes me want to freakin\' puke to see you say \"toesies\" -- even though I love feet. That kind of

language suggests very strongly that you\'ve lost your grip, and are stuck in fantasy land. Did you see the crack

sores on her feet? Take that damn shrine off the web. What the hell has she done to deserve a shrine? Mothered a

dozen of your children?? Squat! That\'s what. She is the \"biggest fish\" in a one fish pond. Period. You need

some new friends and activities! She is using you, wiping her a*s with you, because you are begging to be used!!!

Trying to just create a little distance won\'t cut it, my friend. You need some major sources of support,

mentoring from older men, and counseling to get you safely the hell out of this mess. Break into a morgue and smear

yourself with dead guy pheromones! Soil your pants! Talk to her only about the kids. Help find another sitter to

substitute, wean the kids off you quickly, and run like hell! Don\'t walk! You are wasting valuable healing time

as we speak. Wake up! Hey! She is f*ucking that crack dealer that shows up after you! OK? Every night she f*cks him.

She tells you the phony, \"people always think I f*ck around\" bullsh*t to take attention off herself. She f*cks

him for crack! Know what that makes her? A C-R-A-C-K- W-H-O-R-E! But screw all that. Who cares??? If you let

yourself care, you are begging to be mentally sodomized again, to remain a submissive masochist. Don\'t waste time

confronting her. She\'s poison for you. Save your love for yourself. Unless you want to date only severe

dominatrices, you need at least one significant personal transformation to date anyone you\'d even like. Put your

pheromones in a time capsule. Come back and post some real good news next week. Everyone here will help you through

this, and will be a lot nicer than me.

Pancho1188
12-17-2003, 08:26 AM
Wow, am I posting under two names now???

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif Good call,

DrSmellThis. Tell him to \"Wake up and smell this...\" /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Holmes
12-17-2003, 08:36 AM
I was trying to be \"diplomatic,\" too. But Exit and Doc said it best.

Situation

dangerous. Ghett da f*ck out.

For the love of God.


Holmes

koolking1
12-17-2003, 09:01 AM
lots of women out there buddy - find one, a good one. Looks aren\'t as important

as you might think. I had a gorgeous girlfriend who\'s a cokehead - you can\'t win no matter what!!! You will

lose, you\'ve already lost actually. There\'s some nice woman just waiting for you - be strong and find her,

time\'s a\'wastin!!!!

CJ01
12-17-2003, 11:12 AM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Girls don\'t like

bootlickers.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> You really believe that? Think again

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif But maybe

she´s not into the kinky stuff /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

CJ01
12-17-2003, 11:12 AM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Girls don\'t like

bootlickers.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> You really believe that? Think again

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif But maybe

she´s not into the kinky stuff /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Kari
12-17-2003, 11:46 AM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />


</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Girls don\'t like bootlickers.

<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> You really believe that? Think again

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif But maybe

she´s not into the kinky stuff /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

<hr /></blockquote><font

class=\"post\">

On a serious note... having a loving and giving lover is a wnderful thing. But, I think that if

a man constructed a computer shrine, to me, or was TOO obliging (to the point of being a doormat) I\'d run. That

is, in the past, I have run from men who subordinated their lives, entirely, to mine.

Pancho1188
12-17-2003, 02:27 PM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr

/>
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font

class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Girls don\'t like bootlickers.

<hr /></blockquote><font

class=\"post\"> You really believe that? Think again /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif But maybe she´s not into the kinky stuff

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

On a serious

note... having a loving and giving lover is a wnderful thing. But, I think that if a man constructed a computer

shrine, to me, or was TOO obliging (to the point of being a doormat) I\'d run. That is, in the past, I have run

from men who subordinated their lives, entirely, to mine.

<hr /></blockquote><font

class=\"post\">

Hmmm... You mean like

this?

http://pancho.reallyrules.com/Kari.html (\"http://pancho.reallyrules.com/Kari.html\")



/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Be careful what you (don\'t) wish for...

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Elana
12-17-2003, 02:45 PM
Oh barf, Pancho /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Kari
12-18-2003, 07:00 AM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr

/>
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font

class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Girls

don\'t like bootlickers.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> You really believe that? Think again

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif But maybe

she´s not into the kinky stuff /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

<hr /></blockquote><font

class=\"post\">

On a serious note... having a loving and giving lover is a wnderful thing. But, I think that if

a man constructed a computer shrine, to me, or was TOO obliging (to the point of being a doormat) I\'d run. That

is, in the past, I have run from men who subordinated their lives, entirely, to mine.

<hr /></blockquote><font

class=\"post\">

Hmmm... You mean like

this?

http://pancho.reallyrules.com/Kari.html (\"http://pancho.reallyrules.com/Kari.html\")



/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Be careful what you (don\'t) wish for...

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Pancjo...

what would I EVER do without you! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

CptKipling
12-18-2003, 09:33 AM
To sum up my reaction to squaw\'s situation:

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif &lt;cringe smiley&gt;

You said you read 300 pages of the forum,

but how much of it did you actually listen to? It seems to me that you need to read a lot more than

that...

Anyway, most of my opinions have already been stated (DST, Pancho bel etc.), I just had to post. Get out,

sooner rather than later.


p.s Doc, Good to see the evil twin again, go easy on the sauce

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

\"I smell a disaster in the making\"

Holmes, was that me?

Rings a bell...

franki
12-18-2003, 09:42 AM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />


\"I smell a disaster in the

making\"

Holmes, was that me? Rings a bell...


<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

No,

it was Bruce, in a Ghostclown thread, where the Ghost was talking about screwing his wife\'s sister.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Yes, I know, my memory can\'t be beaten..

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

CptKipling
12-18-2003, 09:58 AM
I\'m sure I\'ve said that aswell...but hey, who cares?

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Ahh Ghostclown, fond, fond memories...

Kari
12-18-2003, 10:02 AM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font

class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />


\"I smell a disaster in the making\"

Holmes, was that me? Rings a

bell...


<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

No, it was Bruce, in a Ghostclown thread, where the

Ghost was talking about screwing his wife\'s sister. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Yes, I

know, my memory can\'t be beaten.. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

That was a

pretty unforgettable thread. Didn\'t he post a \"deflowering a virgin\" thread, too?