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Tom

12-12-2003, 01:33 AM

Hi All,

I

already long time not posting or viewing this forum.
But what i see is almost same as before I leaving this

forum.
Not much new product
Not much success for asian people (CMIIW)
Not much different resources: table,

cookbook, etc is not updated.

Please let me know if I am wrong. Thanks

Regards,

Tom

belgareth

12-12-2003, 03:38 AM

Tom,

What kinds of results have you been getting? I see where you were posting some good questions a while back

but no results. What products are you using and what results are you getting? Have you come up with any new mixes

that seem to work for you? If you and others would post some examples of your efforts it might inspire more users to

do the same.

jamesdeanmartin

12-12-2003, 07:26 AM

I

haven\'t had much free time to report hits, but there are three super attractive asian girls I have class with and

\'mones seem to work wonders on them. They always follow me around and recently have taken to complimenting me (on

my hair cut, on shaving off my facial hair etc.) They certainly aren\'t as overt as some of the other girls at the

bars (and I\'ve only seen them out drinking once or twice) but they do give signs of interest.

JDM

Holmes

12-12-2003, 07:38 AM

JDM,

Which products, how much, and applied where?

Thanks.

Holmes

jamesdeanmartin

12-12-2003, 08:26 AM

This past month I\'ve gotten into the habit of a \"Z\" of SOE on each hand, a drop of AE/M behind each ear and

one spray to the back of my hair of a WAGG-N/A-1 50/50 mix. I generally do this about a 1/2 hour before I go out in

public to let the scent wear off a bit. I do this every other day (MWF basically).

If I\'m going to a bar,

I\'ll basically double the doses and put a spray of TE to the chest (directly under all the clothes.)

JDM

Holmes

12-12-2003, 09:11 AM

Have you

noticed that the addition of the A-1 significantly increased the effectiveness of this mix?

Holmes

jamesdeanmartin

12-12-2003, 01:35 PM

I

had little success with the \"old\" pheromones (NPA, PI/M, APC, TE) until I started using SOE and A-1.

I

think A-1 helps a lot and helps mitigate any bad effects the -none may have. My only problem is that I tend to get

really depressed if I sniff any A-1 (this seems to be a more recent development.) So in anything I use I tend to mix

in some A-1. I\'ve worked WAGG in as well and it seems to work. I had no success with NPA until I brought WAGG or

A-1 into the mix.

abductor

12-13-2003, 09:52 AM

Welcome

Back Tom,
About new products .. we have NPA 10ml, Edge Essentials, Betal-nol, wagg, EW, etc. and Bruce tell us some

news soon .. If i´m not make mistake..SoE woman, TE gel.
Best regards....

Tom

12-14-2003, 11:54 PM

Thanks

abductor,

I am not yet back totally. I just monitoring sometimes

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If I am not wrong I see your calculator, but didnt remember the

url

I hope I will see big success with asian people.

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Regards,

Utomo

abductor

12-15-2003, 09:48 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />

but didnt remember the url

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http://pmixcalc.sysframe.net (\"http://pmixcalc.sysframe.net\")

Your tips are

always welcome, after all you contributed a lot since the beginning.

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Bruce

12-15-2003, 10:02 AM

Tom,
Welcome back. Have a look around before posting stuff like that though, would you? There\'s lots of new

stuff.

Women\'s SOE should be ready to ship by tomorrow, by the way.

Cheers,
Bruce

MadMaxx

12-16-2003, 11:12 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Hi All,

I already long time not posting or

viewing this forum.
But what i see is almost same as before I leaving this forum.
Not much new product
Not much

success for asian people (CMIIW)
Not much different resources: table, cookbook, etc is not updated.

Please let

me know if I am wrong. Thanks

Regards,

Tom

<hr /></blockquote>

Tom,

I have

been reading your posts for as long as I can remember. I seriously think you should just give up. Your obsession

with the whole \"Asian\" thing is getting to be a bit much. Asians or humans like the rest of us right? Or animals

like the rest of us, however you want to look at it. If things aren\'t working for you, I strongly suspect that

it is you who is the fundamental problem, rather than it being a question of \"do pheros work for Asians\". How

would you describe your social skills? Your ability to talk to women? Your level of confidence? Your ability to

establish rapport with women.....? I am literally surrounded by Asian guys, and all of them have better luck with

women than you it seems, even without pheros. As has been said many times before on the forum, pheros may give you

an edge, but they cannot make up for all sorts of other fundamentals that are lacking. Asians are part of the same

species as the rest of us, and pheros work very well on Asian females of all sorts, so why wouldn\'t they work for

Asian males? Do you suppose that of all the people on the planet, only Asian males got blasted out of the

evolutionary link a while back or what?

whynot

12-17-2003, 05:50 AM

I hate to

drag this out any longer, but I agree with MadMaxx. I am asian, I believe the pheros work and have worked for me.

It\'s probably a good idea to get off the pheros for a while so you don\'t rely too much on it.

nonscents

12-17-2003, 07:31 AM

I agree

with MadMaxx but Tom has JVK on his side. Read SOE the book. JVK makes strong claims there about pheromone

differentiation by race.

This is an ad hominem argument.

MadMaxx

12-18-2003, 09:02 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
I agree with MadMaxx but Tom has JVK on his side.

Read SOE the book. JVK makes strong claims there about pheromone differentiation by race.

This is an ad hominem

argument.

<hr /></blockquote>

Yes, I have read JVK. There is race

\"differentiation\", which does NOT translate into, \"pheros do not work for Asian men\"(or any other subgroup

of the species for that matter.

Tom

12-22-2003, 12:23 AM

Hi Madmaxx and

others,

I have no problem for critics and suggestion.
I have no problem with my live, I can talk and make

friend with woman. so I think it have nothing to do with my social live. BUt I didnt find any different reaction

with or without phero.
I just didn\'t find the best phero formula for asian woman.
If we read the forum, I

think we will find many of Asian people still not getting big hit as other western user. it maybe correct that Asian

culture is one of the barrier.
But as JVK mention, maybe somebody (or maybe JVK it self) need to do more research

on Asia people.
Remember Asian people is considered one of the biggest populations (China, India and Indonesia is

all Top populations), so it can be a good target if success.

Regards,

Tom

Tom

12-22-2003, 12:53 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Tom,
Welcome back. Have a look around before

posting stuff like that though, would you? There\'s lots of new stuff.

Women\'s SOE should be ready to

ship by tomorrow, by the way.

Cheers,
Bruce

<hr /></blockquote>

Hi Bruce,

Thanks.
Sorry for posting like that. this because I still see that WAGG, Pheromax Spray! still marked as New,

so I think not much new product since I didn\'t visit the website and forum.

Regards,

Utomo

abductor

12-22-2003, 04:16 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />

If we read the forum, I think we will find many

of Asian people still not getting big hit as other western user. it maybe correct that Asian culture is one of the

barrier.
But as JVK mention, maybe somebody (or maybe JVK it self) need to do more research on Asia

people.
Remember Asian people is considered one of the biggest populations (China, India and Indonesia is all Top

populations), so it can be a good target if success.

<hr /></blockquote>

I

really belive that Asian culture is main (and maybe only) of the barrier. I have a friend that she is Brazilian but

son of Japaneses (of the genetic point of view she is Japanese). Well 2 TE dabs and she answers in the same way that

mine other brasilian friends.

EXIT63

12-22-2003, 05:04 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
I really belive that Asian culture is main (and

maybe only) of the barrier. I have a friend that she is Brazilian but son of Japaneses (of the genetic point of view

she is Japanese). Well 2 TE dabs and she answers in the same way that mine other brasilian friends.

<hr

/></blockquote>

Hmmm, in order to prove this theory we need to Find a Brazilian girl

being raised in Japan.

EXIT63

12-22-2003, 05:05 AM

Utomo,

where you live are there any non-asian immigrants. Perhaps you could experiment on them.

Icarus

12-22-2003, 11:50 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Hmmm, in order to prove this theory we need to Find

a Brazilian girl being raised in Japan.

<hr /></blockquote>

Depends who she\'s

being raised by.

FerroMone

12-23-2003, 02:14 AM

Well,

it\'s been a long time since i had posted here. Well,
i got too busy with my work that i forgot about pheros. But

i think in the 4 month time that i did use it heavily, i can say that it did help. You see, this girl won\'t be

stalking me on the phone if not for the pheros or maybe the seduction thing. I was intending to attract her friend

friend not her, but guess what happened.

MadMaxx

12-23-2003, 03:46 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
I really belive that Asian culture is main (and maybe only) of the barrier.

I have a friend that she is Brazilian but son of Japaneses (of the genetic point of view she is Japanese). Well 2 TE

dabs and she answers in the same way that mine other brasilian friends.

<hr /></blockquote>

Hmmm, in order to prove this theory we need to Find a Brazilian girl being raised in Japan.

<hr /></blockquote>

Well, I\'ve encounter women raised in Japan who are half

Japanese and half South American, and I\'ve practically turned them into cats in heat.

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Holmes

12-23-2003, 05:42 PM

EXIT63

12-23-2003, 06:41 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Well, I\'ve encounter women raised in Japan who

are half Japanese and half South American, and I\'ve practically turned them into cats in heat.

<hr

/></blockquote>

Can you turn them back again? Their loved ones are getting worried!

Icarus

12-24-2003, 02:16 AM

Just send

them over to ol\' Topcat.

MadMaxx

12-24-2003, 05:13 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Just send them over to ol\' Topcat.

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/></blockquote>

I let\'em get away.... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Tom

12-29-2003, 01:02 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Well, I\'ve encounter women raised in Japan who

are half Japanese and half South American, and I\'ve practically turned them into cats in heat.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

<hr /></blockquote>

It is not

Asian, but 50% asian, so maybe it is affected by the non asian ?

To answer other question:
I live in Indonesia

(many people know about Bali, but didnt know Indonesia).
Yes, here many western too. but I didnt test to them yet.

have no time for that, especially last few month.

MadMaxx

12-29-2003, 08:13 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Well, I\'ve encounter women raised in Japan who are half Japanese and half

South American, and I\'ve practically turned them into cats in heat.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

<hr /></blockquote>

It is not

Asian, but 50% asian, so maybe it is affected by the non asian ?

To answer other question:
I live in Indonesia

(many people know about Bali, but didnt know Indonesia).
Yes, here many western too. but I didnt test to them yet.

have no time for that, especially last few month.

<hr /></blockquote>

Tom,

when you go to test yourself on the Western women, just soak yourself in -none and target ones that are in the

middle to late thirties. That type just about rapes me if I have a lot of -none on. You don\'t need anything fancy

like SOE for example, for that category.

Tom

01-01-2004, 10:03 PM

Thanks

Madmaxx.

But I just begining of 30. maybe not my mood /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
So,

maybe I will test/not your suggestion about late thirties
Thanks.

Tom