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Hi All,
I
already long time not posting or viewing this forum.
But what i see is almost same as before I leaving this
forum.
Not much new product
Not much success for asian people (CMIIW)
Not much different resources: table,
cookbook, etc is not updated.
Please let me know if I am wrong. Thanks
Regards,
Tom
belgareth
12-12-2003, 03:38 AM
Tom,
What kinds of results have you been getting? I see where you were posting some good questions a while back
but no results. What products are you using and what results are you getting? Have you come up with any new mixes
that seem to work for you? If you and others would post some examples of your efforts it might inspire more users to
do the same.
jamesdeanmartin
12-12-2003, 07:26 AM
I
haven\'t had much free time to report hits, but there are three super attractive asian girls I have class with and
\'mones seem to work wonders on them. They always follow me around and recently have taken to complimenting me (on
my hair cut, on shaving off my facial hair etc.) They certainly aren\'t as overt as some of the other girls at the
bars (and I\'ve only seen them out drinking once or twice) but they do give signs of interest.
JDM
Holmes
12-12-2003, 07:38 AM
JDM,
Which products, how much, and applied where?
Thanks.
Holmes
jamesdeanmartin
12-12-2003, 08:26 AM
This past month I\'ve gotten into the habit of a \"Z\" of SOE on each hand, a drop of AE/M behind each ear and
one spray to the back of my hair of a WAGG-N/A-1 50/50 mix. I generally do this about a 1/2 hour before I go out in
public to let the scent wear off a bit. I do this every other day (MWF basically).
If I\'m going to a bar,
I\'ll basically double the doses and put a spray of TE to the chest (directly under all the clothes.)
JDM
Holmes
12-12-2003, 09:11 AM
Have you
noticed that the addition of the A-1 significantly increased the effectiveness of this mix?
Holmes
jamesdeanmartin
12-12-2003, 01:35 PM
I
had little success with the \"old\" pheromones (NPA, PI/M, APC, TE) until I started using SOE and A-1.
I
think A-1 helps a lot and helps mitigate any bad effects the -none may have. My only problem is that I tend to get
really depressed if I sniff any A-1 (this seems to be a more recent development.) So in anything I use I tend to mix
in some A-1. I\'ve worked WAGG in as well and it seems to work. I had no success with NPA until I brought WAGG or
A-1 into the mix.
abductor
12-13-2003, 09:52 AM
Welcome
Back Tom,
About new products .. we have NPA 10ml, Edge Essentials, Betal-nol, wagg, EW, etc. and Bruce tell us some
news soon .. If i´m not make mistake..SoE woman, TE gel.
Best regards....
Thanks
abductor,
I am not yet back totally. I just monitoring sometimes
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If I am not wrong I see your calculator, but didnt remember the
url
I hope I will see big success with asian people.
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Regards,
Utomo
abductor
12-15-2003, 09:48 AM
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but didnt remember the url
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http://pmixcalc.sysframe.net (\"http://pmixcalc.sysframe.net\")
Your tips are
always welcome, after all you contributed a lot since the beginning.
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Bruce
12-15-2003, 10:02 AM
Tom,
Welcome back. Have a look around before posting stuff like that though, would you? There\'s lots of new
stuff.
Women\'s SOE should be ready to ship by tomorrow, by the way.
Cheers,
Bruce
MadMaxx
12-16-2003, 11:12 PM
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Hi All,
I already long time not posting or
viewing this forum.
But what i see is almost same as before I leaving this forum.
Not much new product
Not much
success for asian people (CMIIW)
Not much different resources: table, cookbook, etc is not updated.
Please let
me know if I am wrong. Thanks
Regards,
Tom
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Tom,
I have
been reading your posts for as long as I can remember. I seriously think you should just give up. Your obsession
with the whole \"Asian\" thing is getting to be a bit much. Asians or humans like the rest of us right? Or animals
like the rest of us, however you want to look at it. If things aren\'t working for you, I strongly suspect that
it is you who is the fundamental problem, rather than it being a question of \"do pheros work for Asians\". How
would you describe your social skills? Your ability to talk to women? Your level of confidence? Your ability to
establish rapport with women.....? I am literally surrounded by Asian guys, and all of them have better luck with
women than you it seems, even without pheros. As has been said many times before on the forum, pheros may give you
an edge, but they cannot make up for all sorts of other fundamentals that are lacking. Asians are part of the same
species as the rest of us, and pheros work very well on Asian females of all sorts, so why wouldn\'t they work for
Asian males? Do you suppose that of all the people on the planet, only Asian males got blasted out of the
evolutionary link a while back or what?
whynot
12-17-2003, 05:50 AM
I hate to
drag this out any longer, but I agree with MadMaxx. I am asian, I believe the pheros work and have worked for me.
It\'s probably a good idea to get off the pheros for a while so you don\'t rely too much on it.
nonscents
12-17-2003, 07:31 AM
I agree
with MadMaxx but Tom has JVK on his side. Read SOE the book. JVK makes strong claims there about pheromone
differentiation by race.
This is an ad hominem argument.
MadMaxx
12-18-2003, 09:02 PM
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I agree with MadMaxx but Tom has JVK on his side.
Read SOE the book. JVK makes strong claims there about pheromone differentiation by race.
This is an ad hominem
argument.
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Yes, I have read JVK. There is race
\"differentiation\", which does NOT translate into, \"pheros do not work for Asian men\"(or any other subgroup
of the species for that matter.
Hi Madmaxx and
others,
I have no problem for critics and suggestion.
I have no problem with my live, I can talk and make
friend with woman. so I think it have nothing to do with my social live. BUt I didnt find any different reaction
with or without phero.
I just didn\'t find the best phero formula for asian woman.
If we read the forum, I
think we will find many of Asian people still not getting big hit as other western user. it maybe correct that Asian
culture is one of the barrier.
But as JVK mention, maybe somebody (or maybe JVK it self) need to do more research
on Asia people.
Remember Asian people is considered one of the biggest populations (China, India and Indonesia is
all Top populations), so it can be a good target if success.
Regards,
Tom
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Tom,
Welcome back. Have a look around before
posting stuff like that though, would you? There\'s lots of new stuff.
Women\'s SOE should be ready to
ship by tomorrow, by the way.
Cheers,
Bruce
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Hi Bruce,
Thanks.
Sorry for posting like that. this because I still see that WAGG, Pheromax Spray! still marked as New,
so I think not much new product since I didn\'t visit the website and forum.
Regards,
Utomo
abductor
12-22-2003, 04:16 AM
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If we read the forum, I think we will find many
of Asian people still not getting big hit as other western user. it maybe correct that Asian culture is one of the
barrier.
But as JVK mention, maybe somebody (or maybe JVK it self) need to do more research on Asia
people.
Remember Asian people is considered one of the biggest populations (China, India and Indonesia is all Top
populations), so it can be a good target if success.
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I
really belive that Asian culture is main (and maybe only) of the barrier. I have a friend that she is Brazilian but
son of Japaneses (of the genetic point of view she is Japanese). Well 2 TE dabs and she answers in the same way that
mine other brasilian friends.
EXIT63
12-22-2003, 05:04 AM
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I really belive that Asian culture is main (and
maybe only) of the barrier. I have a friend that she is Brazilian but son of Japaneses (of the genetic point of view
she is Japanese). Well 2 TE dabs and she answers in the same way that mine other brasilian friends.
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Hmmm, in order to prove this theory we need to Find a Brazilian girl
being raised in Japan.
EXIT63
12-22-2003, 05:05 AM
Utomo,
where you live are there any non-asian immigrants. Perhaps you could experiment on them.
Icarus
12-22-2003, 11:50 AM
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Hmmm, in order to prove this theory we need to Find
a Brazilian girl being raised in Japan.
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Depends who she\'s
being raised by.
FerroMone
12-23-2003, 02:14 AM
Well,
it\'s been a long time since i had posted here. Well,
i got too busy with my work that i forgot about pheros. But
i think in the 4 month time that i did use it heavily, i can say that it did help. You see, this girl won\'t be
stalking me on the phone if not for the pheros or maybe the seduction thing. I was intending to attract her friend
friend not her, but guess what happened.
MadMaxx
12-23-2003, 03:46 AM
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I really belive that Asian culture is main (and maybe only) of the barrier.
I have a friend that she is Brazilian but son of Japaneses (of the genetic point of view she is Japanese). Well 2 TE
dabs and she answers in the same way that mine other brasilian friends.
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Hmmm, in order to prove this theory we need to Find a Brazilian girl being raised in Japan.
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Well, I\'ve encounter women raised in Japan who are half
Japanese and half South American, and I\'ve practically turned them into cats in heat.
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Holmes
12-23-2003, 05:42 PM
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Well, I\'ve encounter women raised in Japan who
are half Japanese and half South American, and I\'ve practically turned them into cats in heat.
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Some guys have
all the luck.
Holmes
EXIT63
12-23-2003, 06:41 PM
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Well, I\'ve encounter women raised in Japan who
are half Japanese and half South American, and I\'ve practically turned them into cats in heat.
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Can you turn them back again? Their loved ones are getting worried!
Icarus
12-24-2003, 02:16 AM
Just send
them over to ol\' Topcat.
MadMaxx
12-24-2003, 05:13 AM
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Just send them over to ol\' Topcat.
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I let\'em get away.... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
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Well, I\'ve encounter women raised in Japan who
are half Japanese and half South American, and I\'ve practically turned them into cats in heat.
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It is not
Asian, but 50% asian, so maybe it is affected by the non asian ?
To answer other question:
I live in Indonesia
(many people know about Bali, but didnt know Indonesia).
Yes, here many western too. but I didnt test to them yet.
have no time for that, especially last few month.
MadMaxx
12-29-2003, 08:13 AM
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Well, I\'ve encounter women raised in Japan who are half Japanese and half
South American, and I\'ve practically turned them into cats in heat.
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It is not
Asian, but 50% asian, so maybe it is affected by the non asian ?
To answer other question:
I live in Indonesia
(many people know about Bali, but didnt know Indonesia).
Yes, here many western too. but I didnt test to them yet.
have no time for that, especially last few month.
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Tom,
when you go to test yourself on the Western women, just soak yourself in -none and target ones that are in the
middle to late thirties. That type just about rapes me if I have a lot of -none on. You don\'t need anything fancy
like SOE for example, for that category.
Thanks
Madmaxx.
But I just begining of 30. maybe not my mood /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
So,
maybe I will test/not your suggestion about late thirties
Thanks.
Tom
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