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I started out last
week with TE(no scent). I\'ve worn it mostly at work, and wanted to see what the effects were like on people that
I have known and interacted with for years. Figured this would be the best \"control\" to see if it made any
difference. I noticed the pissy smell of TE, but after 15 minutes on it seems to settle down. In the morning, I
would spray my neck twice and maybe every other day rub 1 spray into my crotch or both wrists in the morning, and
take a another spray at lunch. I\'ve read that this can be an OD, but I figured that it wears away and that I
would spend most of my time at an optimal level. I wore this with nothing else.
At this point I must say that
something is definitely going on. A pretty young girl from personnel who was previously cold has had this goofy
smile on her face since I\'ve helped her. Another lady from there has touched me and is very talkative. A lady
from the billing dept. has turned red and is flirting. In general I feel like much more respect is coming my way
too. However, I think this is intimidating to a lot of people. One girl in particular, was very friendly towards
me. I busted on her major. Then I had to point out how she was failing something (something I know she deep down
appreciates,) and boy did she take it seriously. Now she wants to please me about what I pointed out to her, but
she is not as loose as before. I like the feeling that I am dominating her, but I feel like she is now intimidated.
I know that this is challenging to her and that I\'m getting major points in the meantime. To help balance
things out, I\'m getting AE, SOE, PI, and NPA. Once I feel like she is doing better, I\'ll maybe go to SOE with
NPA to bring her back to friendly. I think women like a dominant male who doesn\'t take any crap and isn\'t
afraid to point it out. On the other hand, I am helping and like teasing her. I should be getting the new stuff
soon, I\'ll let you know how it goes.
MadMaxx
12-09-2003, 06:44 AM
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I started out last week with TE(no scent). I\'ve
worn it mostly at work, and wanted to see what the effects were like on people that I have known and interacted with
for years. Figured this would be the best \"control\" to see if it made any difference. I noticed the pissy smell
of TE, but after 15 minutes on it seems to settle down. In the morning, I would spray my neck twice and maybe every
other day rub 1 spray into my crotch or both wrists in the morning, and take a another spray at lunch. I\'ve read
that this can be an OD, but I figured that it wears away and that I would spend most of my time at an optimal level.
I wore this with nothing else.
At this point I must say that something is definitely going on. A pretty young
girl from personnel who was previously cold has had this goofy smile on her face since I\'ve helped her. Another
lady from there has touched me and is very talkative. A lady from the billing dept. has turned red and is flirting.
In general I feel like much more respect is coming my way too. However, I think this is intimidating to a lot of
people. One girl in particular, was very friendly towards me. I busted on her major. Then I had to point out how
she was failing something (something I know she deep down appreciates,) and boy did she take it seriously. Now she
wants to please me about what I pointed out to her, but she is not as loose as before. I like the feeling that I am
dominating her, but I feel like she is now intimidated. I know that this is challenging to her and that I\'m
getting major points in the meantime. To help balance things out, I\'m getting AE, SOE, PI, and NPA. Once I feel
like she is doing better, I\'ll maybe go to SOE with NPA to bring her back to friendly. I think women like a
dominant male who doesn\'t take any crap and isn\'t afraid to point it out. On the other hand, I am helping and
like teasing her. I should be getting the new stuff soon, I\'ll let you know how it goes.
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Sounds like you might want to tone things down just a bit. However, it is
great to hear that you are gettting results/reactions right off the bat.
oscar
12-09-2003, 08:01 AM
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I noticed the pissy smell of TE, but after 15
minutes on it seems to settle down. In the morning, I would spray my neck twice and maybe every other day rub 1
spray into my crotch or both wrists in the morning, and take a another spray at lunch. I\'ve read that this can
be an OD, but I figured that it wears away and that I would spend most of my time at an optimal level. I wore this
with nothing else.
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Deak,
Are you quite sure that the scent
of TE \"settles down\" as you say?
A common mistake made by rookies in the field of pheromones and fragrances
in general is to THINK that the scent of the product that they\'ve applied has faded, when in fact it is just that
they have adjusted to the scent and can no longer detect it at the intensity that others in their vicinity can
EASILY detect it.
Have you ever visited a neighborhood where there is a refinery or a distillery? To an outsider
entering the area these places stink, but to those who are constantly exposed to the smell the aroma has merely been
relegated to being a \"backround scent\", and they become barely aware of its presence until they return to their
neighborhood after a period of absence.
Our noses will do the same on a short term basis as well, adjusting to a
scent in our presence and making it decreasingly noticeable to us over time.
So while you may think that 3 or 4
sprays of TE doesn\'t stink just because YOU can\'t smell it as being a pungent, piss-like, room filling stench,
there are no doubt people with whom you come in contact who can smell it quite clearly.
Are they going to say
you stink? Of course they are!
Probably not to your face, but almost definitely behind your back.
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Now that you know that the stuff works, I\'d suggest toning
the applications down considerably and covering the scent with a nice fragrance that suits you.
I think you\'ll
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Oscar
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koolking1
12-09-2003, 09:42 AM
another
thing you may eventually run into is that a woman or two may mistakenly think YOU are interested in them when you
really aren\'t. When I was using them every day I had at that time a whole lot of contacts with women. One of
them eventually told me when she had a chance at some measure of privacy that \"although her husband had his
faults, she was committed to him and her marriage\". Basically she was telling me that she appreciated my interest
in her but but.... It really caught me by surprise as I had zero interest in her other than being my normally
congenial self to her over the weeks/months I was working in this place.
Thanks for all
the feedback. Maybe I ODed on TE. but I never used more than 2 sprays in one place at a time and I\'ve never
exceeded 3 sprays total. Also there are people that would tell me that I stink or there was a smell and the only
thing I\'ve heard was a friend say there was a chemical like smell. It would help to know how long the stuff
lasts. I find my self adding another spray six hours later. Is this too soon to add more?
Anyway, I got more
products yesterday and I\'m going to try something close to one of the mixes that was posted by CK (#2.) A dab of
NPA on each side of the neck, then cover each of those with a drop of AE. Two inches of SOE (this is actually a nice
smell) on each wrist and and inch on my throat. I\'ll be meeting with women within a few hours of this
application. Will this last me all day? Should I add a touch up in the afternoon? Say two more drops of AE six
hours later?
I\'m going out Friday and was going to do the above with an additional DAB of PI under the SOE
on my throat.
Lastly - It seems tht it would be very important to scrub your hands after application.
More
later.
CollegeStudent
12-10-2003, 01:45 AM
Well I applied 3 drops of JB#1 at about 11am Monday, it is now 4:45am Wed, and I can STILL smell some of the
\"BO\" smell. Stuff DOES NOT wear down like you think. Although, (Ill admit), I havent showered since then.
After 24 hours and shower, most of the mones will be gone (but not all). But the effects WILL last a LONG time.
Also 3 sprays with NOTHING to cover, and you will be a walking pigstye. Some people cant smell it, some people
smell it some, and it smells different to some. I cant smell TE right out of the bottle (except the alcohol smell),
and I cant smell it on the skin until about 10 to 15 minutes later and to me it smells like BO, not cat piss. But
to others it might be different.
Sagacious1420
12-10-2003, 02:05 AM
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Well I applied 3 drops of JB#1 at about 11am
Monday, it is now 4:45am Wed, and I can STILL smell some of the \"BO\" smell.
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Hmmmmm...haven\'t showered for nearly two days, huh. Are you sure the BO smell is from
the pheros? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
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Sagacious1420
12-10-2003, 02:25 AM
Deak-
Your application should be fine all day. The scent of AE and SOE may begin to fade after about 6-8 hrs
though. There is a possibility of some nol conversion. It may not hurt to refresh your application points
w/ a bit of SOE, if you feel compelled to reapply. I\'ve never had any problems from refreshing w/ a bit of SOE
after several hours. In fact, I recall one time that I had an afternoon job interview (~ 3pm) to which I wore 3
drops AE/m + 1/2 SOE gel pack, went to a Hooters afterward for a bite to eat(got a # from a bartender), met a woman
there who invited me to join her and friends at a club that evening, refreshed w/ the remaining SOE around 10 pm and
ended up going home w/ a Rae Dawn Chong look alike I met at the club. So I think you\'ll be fine.
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CollegeStudent
12-10-2003, 08:24 PM
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Well I applied 3 drops of JB#1 at about 11am Monday, it is now 4:45am Wed,
and I can STILL smell some of the \"BO\" smell.
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Hmmmmm...haven\'t showered for nearly two days, huh. Are you sure the BO smell is from the
pheros? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
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Yes
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif I dont start naturally smelling of BO till about the 3rd day
(dont ask me how I know). Plus I was wearing deodorant but the smell was obviously coming from the appliation
point.
I never tried
JB#1, but I thought the apc should cover the npa pretty good?
APC smells good doesnt it?
Sagacious1420
12-15-2003, 01:31 PM
APC
smells like cheap cologne to me. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
franki
12-15-2003, 01:47 PM
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APC smells like cheap cologne to me.
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Even cheap
cologne can do wonders. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Holmes
12-15-2003, 01:50 PM
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APC smells like cheap cologne to me.
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I know! Gives
me a headache.
Holmes
Whitehall
12-15-2003, 09:21 PM
APC is
definitely not a high quality cologne but it does work very well with NPA. I\'ve learned to respect
JB#1.
Although it is not a classic \"fine\" scent, it does seem to get positive reactions above and beyond the
conscienous perceptions.
Sagacious1420
12-16-2003, 04:27 AM
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Follow up -
I\'ve been using SoE 6-7 inches on my wrists and on top of 2-3 drops of AE with around 3 dabs of NPA. Children
are definitely affected - its best to stay away. One of my targets is about 9 years younger than me and she is
definitely very friendly to me. She smokes, which might make me pump up the -none a bit. The problem is that she
is just friendly. We talk all the time. She makes herself seem available but I am separated and I think she is
waiting (or maybe not.) Anyway, I have helped her a lot with her work, which I\'m afraid is putting me on the
\"provider\" list. Other than being very cute and nice to talk to, she is completely wrong for me, she has
pursued other men at work (whom I am suspicious that she has talked to about me), she drinks a lot, and she points
out her famous fantasy men to me. (of course all women have this but my experience is that they don\'t talk as
much about them to men they are interested in) I busted on her a lot in the beginning, but started turning into
more of a wuss (but not totally) when we started talking more. I\'ve never told her I had feelings for her, but I
probably call her too much and have given her one very elaborate comment about her gorgeous hair. and I see her
every day (we work close) She thinks I\'m a nice guy (she has said before that this is what she needs even though
she has had mostly loser boyfriends) I have done nice things for her, but I have also scolded her about not staying
on top of things - this made her wake up and put in some effort - for a while - now I\'m being nice to her again
and she has been slacking major. She asked me to make something to put on her desk with a picture of her
\'fantasy guy\' This got me livid, man. I chewed her out good. I told her it was a waste of my time, she had
more important things to do, and to go find some lovestruck dork that she could charm into doing it. No way man - I
am not spending my time on something like that for her desk so she can point it out to every other guy that walks
by. I\'m going to put the SoE/AE/NPA/PI mix on, totally ignore her, and flirt with the other women (also very
cute) around her. This woman was really bringing out my inner wuss - I was a little obsessed with her. It was
really messing with my head because she was giving me a lot of attention. This made it very hard for me to
concentrate on anything else. Guys out there - let me tell you - nothing solves that obsession better than
ridiculing her behaivor, saying NO to something that could be very demeaning, and totally blowing her off - it gives
you ALL the power. If she doesn\'t like it then I don\'t care because I asserted myself, which feels GREAT -
especially when you hold her accountable for the way she acts. If she has lost all interest, then its over with me
feeling great. I\'m betting it will drive her wild and will make her like me more. Anyway - the -mones are not
everything.
Sexyredhead
12-18-2003, 05:08 AM
Yes,
ridiculing someone\'s behavior is always the best way to go. Definitely much better than just backing off and
ignoring her because you have other things to do. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Back off on
the -none, babe. I think it\'s affecting YOU too much. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
belgareth
12-18-2003, 06:00 AM
SRH is
right, ease up on the None! It does seem to be affecting your attitude.
There is nothing wrong with being a
nice guy so long as you set limits on it. It sounds like you went too far one direction and are now swinging back as
far in the other. Be consistant but never let anybody take advantage of you like that. At the same time, always
treat any woman, or everybody in general with courtesy and respect. You\'ll get a lot further and be happier than
by playing games.
What do you think she was trying to accomplish with all her talk about her \"Perfect
Guy\"? Testing you? Trying to make you see she was uninterested? Just being callous towards you? Whatever it was,
you should have let her know you didn\'t enjoy it. If it continued you should have moved on quickly. All you did
was encourage her and open the door to more and more outrageous behavoir.
Holmes
12-18-2003, 06:25 AM
You chewed
her out? Sounds like you were so intent on being \"in control\" that you actually lost control. Stamping
your feet is hardly going to project an aura of self-assuredness and it certainly won\'t win you any
respect.
Holmes
Pancho1188
12-18-2003, 06:46 AM
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Yes, ridiculing someone\'s behavior is always the
best way to go. Definitely much better than just backing off and ignoring her because you have other things to do.
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Back off on the -none, babe. I think it\'s affecting YOU
too much. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
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Man, it\'s too early and I\'m still recovering from last night and have 2 more finals... I
thought it said \"jacking\" instead of \"backing\"... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif Oops.
MadMaxx
12-18-2003, 09:12 PM
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Well I applied 3 drops of JB#1 at about 11am
Monday, it is now 4:45am Wed, and I can STILL smell some of the \"BO\" smell. Stuff DOES NOT wear down like you
think. Although, (Ill admit), I havent showered since then. After 24 hours and shower, most of the mones will be
gone (but not all). But the effects WILL last a LONG time.
Also 3 sprays with NOTHING to cover, and you will
be a walking pigstye. Some people cant smell it, some people smell it some, and it smells different to some. I
cant smell TE right out of the bottle (except the alcohol smell), and I cant smell it on the skin until about 10 to
15 minutes later and to me it smells like BO, not cat piss. But to others it might be different.
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\"Walking pigstye\"....I love that one.
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Dude.....listen to the experieced people here....you are already
a walking, reeking piece of filth with your initial applications, forgot about later reapplications! Oh well, live
and learn. Some day you will realize that more is less. I probably used to be similar to you once upon a time. Now,
I use FAR less, have much more consistent \"nice\" results, and I NEVER reapply. A 7 a.m. application is still
doing everything it should 12-16 hours later.
MadMaxx
12-18-2003, 09:17 PM
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Yes, ridiculing someone\'s behavior is always the best way to go.
Definitely much better than just backing off and ignoring her because you have other things to do.
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Back off on the -none, babe. I think it\'s affecting YOU
too much. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
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Man, it\'s too early and I\'m still recovering from last night and have 2 more finals... I
thought it said \"jacking\" instead of \"backing\"... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif Oops.
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Actually, I think either would fit appropriately in there. He
could opt to ignore her, give up on her, and go jack off instead.
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