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krtel
10-24-2003, 07:29 PM
Hi

all,

Remember an older posting of mine regarding my predicted performance on the ACT? Well, I was right - I

earned the national average score of 20. While this will get me into some state universities (I have a shot at Texas

A&M), I refuse to accept this score.

I did some research about my inability to score high on tests like the

SAT/ACT. To see if I actually knew the material tested, I took both tests untimed. I was shocked to find out that I

scored in the 99th percentile on both untimed practice exams.

Now, when I took the actual exams, I didn\'t come

close to the 99th percentile at all. I realized that during a timed test I lack focus, concentration, memory,

comprehension, and speed. To remedy my problems, I am considering the following herbal supplements:

1.

Huperzine-A
2. Ginkgo Biloba
3. DHA (docosahexaenoic acid)
4. Aceytl-L-carnatine
5. DMAE

(2-dimethylaminoethanol)

I obtained the above list from webmd and was wondering if anyone has tried any of them?

If so, do you think it could help treat my defects? Thanks. :-)

Krish

Sacogoo
10-25-2003, 02:45 PM
Your defect is that you probably get wound up like an eight day clock prior to exams and have too much sh_t running

through your head which screws up your focus and concentration.

Actually, a lot of people get really worked up

and anxious prior to taking a test or other high pressure type of situations. In college, my recipe for maintaining

my cool prior to mid-terms and finals was that I usually knocked back a couple of brewskis a little while before the

tests. Mellowed me right out, and I did a lot better on the exams. (In my 681 English - Milton, I actually was

completely inebriated but still managed to ace the final, which was funny because I never even bought the text for

that class.)

Since your a minor, and I would never recommend that a minor would do anything illegal such as

consuming alcohol, I would suggest that you try meditation, or something to calm you down instead of jacking

yourself up on all those herbal energy pills - which, I will tell you from experience, won\'t do a freaking thing

in terms of helping you focus.

DrSmellThis
10-26-2003, 05:47 AM
If you have ADD or something similar it is worth trying
1. Masquelier\'s OPC\'s (web search

it)
2. l-tyrosine
3. bacopa (herb)
4. b-vitamins
5. EPA/DHA

These are the best that I\'ve found, and

I\'ve tried almost everything. 1 and 3 worked especially well for me. Of course you can also try prescription

amphetamines.

nbnbtc
10-26-2003, 10:02 PM
Krish,

In my opinion, the DMAE is your best bet. I have tried most of the things mentioned, and DMAE is the only

one that has given me a noticable boost in energy and mental focus. I prefer the liquid form myself, a bottle of it

was only 5 bucks on www.iherb.com. (\"http://www.iherb.com.\") Dosage? As much as you need. I never had a

problem with taking too much of it, and I go way beyond the recomended dosages. The non-liquid form seems to be

harsher tho, so I stay away from that now.

Another thing you may want to look into is a light/sound stimulation

device like the Proteus www.mindmodulations.com (\"http://www.mindmodulations.com\") that I\'ve

mentioned in previous posts. My GPA went way up from using that alone, definitely worth the price tag.

Good luck!

Bruce
10-27-2003, 05:48 AM
Vinpocetine used to be a prescription \"smart drug\". Now you can buy it over the counter in health food stores

I suppose. I know you can buy it online at vitaminshoppe.com. I have been taking it for a while now. Not sure if

it works or not. Well-known smart drugs that remain presciption only are
piracetam
hydergine
lucidril
There is

a nasal spray called Desmopressin that is supposed to give you a brief boost in concentration that might be good

right before an exam.

The books on smart drugs generally reccommend taking the over the counter supplement

choline whenever you take smart drugs. I don\'t know if it does any good when you aren\'t taking them.

Bruce

nonscents
10-27-2003, 06:00 AM
FYI: I am planning on trying garum extract. The brand I will get is Allergy Research/ Nutricology and

it\'s called Stabilium. There are other products out there as well.

I haven\'t tried it yet.

Sexyredhead
10-27-2003, 07:09 AM
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Hi all,

Remember an older posting of

mine regarding my predicted performance on the ACT? Well, I was right - I earned the national average score of 20.

While this will get me into some state universities (I have a shot at Texas A&amp;M), I refuse to accept this

score.

I did some research about my inability to score high on tests like the SAT/ACT. To see if I actually knew

the material tested, I took both tests untimed. I was shocked to find out that I scored in the 99th percentile on

both untimed practice exams.

Now, when I took the actual exams, I didn\'t come close to the 99th percentile at

all. I realized that during a timed test I lack focus, concentration, memory, comprehension, and speed. To remedy my

problems, I am considering the following herbal supplements:

1. Huperzine-A
2. Ginkgo Biloba
3. DHA

(docosahexaenoic acid)
4. Aceytl-L-carnatine
5. DMAE (2-dimethylaminoethanol)

I obtained the above list from

webmd and was wondering if anyone has tried any of them? If so, do you think it could help treat my defects? Thanks.

:-)

Krish


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Krish, have you thought about just

practicing? Take all the sample tests while being timed. It\'s probalby just the idea that you have to hurry

that\'s messing you up. I don\'t think any herb/pill/supplement will really help that. This is a problem that

many people have, and I think what you really need to do is just practice taking this kind of test until you are

better able to deal with the time factor. You know the stuff. It\'s the timed concept that\'s getting to you.

Holmes
10-27-2003, 08:19 AM
I wonder what brain-enhancing formula Robin Williams is using in lieu of the hard stuff. Seriously, I\'ll have

what he\'s having. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif


Holmes

krtel
10-27-2003, 06:50 PM
Sexyredhead,

I put in TONS of study hours, and got a 20. There\'s just something wrong here. You are right

about the time pressure - I worry myself to death and I can\'t focus or concentrate, so I start making careless

errors and lose comprehension. It\'s a mental thing that I feel I don\'t have any control over. *sigh*

Krish

krtel
10-27-2003, 07:30 PM
Ok, well, I spent about $25 to get Ginkgo Biloba, DHA, and DMAE. Of the three, I found DMAE (pill form) to be the

most effective. However, I find that Ginko, and especially DHA complement DMAE. I\'m thinking faster and smarter.

I\'m able to focus and concentrate like never before. For example, I tested myself under some really tough

conditions: I turned on the tv, radio, and stero at high volume while reading a sample ACT reading passage. None of

the distractions were successful in defeating my comphrehension of the passage. I was stunned, and had the

confidence to register for the next ACT test date. I\'m eager to see how much more I can grasp faster while I\'m

brushing up for it. Thanks all. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Krish

Holmes
10-28-2003, 08:11 AM
Krtel, exactly how much of each are you taking? And how often?


Holmes

krtel
10-28-2003, 08:35 AM
I

take 2 DHA gel caps with each meal, 2 ginko caps 2 times/day, and 3 DMAE caps a day.

Krish

Whitehall
10-28-2003, 09:07 AM
Here\'s a

couple that I\'ve found effective and with few side effects:

vinpocetine - great stuff, better after lunch

than a cup of coffee

phosphatidyl serine - a longer term supplement - it takes a few days to work - but a

solid perfomer. A bit expensive though - the oil-filled gelcaps seem the best.


As to taking DMAE,

I\'ve found that it is too uncomfortable for me to use it. I just get nervous and get the jitters.

Holmes
10-28-2003, 09:14 AM
Thanks

Krtel.

Whitehall, I second that Vinpocetine recommendation. I use it, too. Good atuff.


Holmes

Kari
10-28-2003, 09:43 AM
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