View Full Version : Attracting the wrong people with pheromones?
WonderingThoughts
10-20-2003, 06:24 PM
Has anyone considered we may be attracting the wrong people for us with these purchased pheromones? I
keep getting a lot of hits from men that I know are not compatible with my personality when using pheromones. The
one guy I want to attract is not responding to the pheromones. Today at work he talked and was he very friendly but
he seemed to be distant. This guy is very shy and does not have interest in a any woman but me. How do I know, or
for that matter any of us know, that by covering up our natural pheromones that we are actually repelling the right
person for us?
Granted this stuff does attract man and a lot of men at that. But all the men it has attracted
for me are of no interest to me. I am currently using PPA. Is there a product out there that is known to work on
shy men?
upsidedown
10-20-2003, 08:00 PM
Using pheromones is sort of a roll of the dice. You never know just who is going to respond or not
respond. There are just so many variables involved. I\'ve had the same experience myself with someone I was
interested in not responding....but then seeing people I would never imagine being interested showing a
reaction.
I doubt you\'re pheromones are repelling him. He\'s probably even more attracted to you with
the mones, but feels that you would never be interested in him and is too shy to make any moves.
If you
think your mones could be hurting though then experiment by not using them for 3 or 4 days and see if his behavior
changes. Otherwise, I really suspect in the end you\'re just going to have to do something to let him know
you\'re interested in him. You\'re probably going to have to make the first move.
proteus
10-20-2003, 08:04 PM
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This guy is very shy and does not have
interest in a any woman but me.
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If you know he\'s shy and that
he doesn\'t have interest in any woman but you, why don\'t you ask him out casually for
coffee or something
like that? A shy guy like him probably needs some help and since you know he likes you, pheromones
aren\'t really
necessary here - just some willingness to
go out on a limb and structure an opportunity for you and he
to begin
seeing each other socially.
AznDude
10-20-2003, 09:00 PM
So how do you \"KNOW\" he\'s interested in you? I\'m just curious cuz if you KNOW someone likes
you then I say go for it! Like the above posts, if he\'s shy, chances are he isn\'t gonna change any time too
soon. So if you want results, you may have to make the first move. Or arrange something with your friends/co-workers
to get like a gathering out and you two might be in a better environment to mingle. Utilize your resource
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Man, if I KNOW someone I\'m interested is interested in me,
then I\'m going for it. But so far, I\'ve been REALLY BAD at \"KNOWING\"... so I stopped following my faulty
instincts in that area. Too many \"But, we\'re just good friends right?\" or \"I don\'t want to jeapordize
our friendship\". Damnit women, if there\'s something else wrong, just say it! It\'s my Hair isn\'t it! Bleah
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Watcher
10-20-2003, 09:13 PM
We gotta remember women are naturally submissive and via genetics expect the guy to show the
testostrone and make the move - thats why shy guys never get laid except when they get frustrated and go to a
prostitute for it.
Wonderingwoman wont ask this guy out even he is interested and she is interested but cannot go
out with him unless HE makes the move and not her - so if she is using the mones and is not prepared to ask him out
then she shouldnt be chasing him or trying to direct the mones at him. Its as simple as that because otherwise he
wont change she will continue to waste her energy in the hope he will make the move he wont and she will remain
confused.
Ie why wont he ask me out even though i have my mones on - hey plenty of guys expect the same thing ie
i wear this she will aks me out WONT HAPPEN GUYS - WELL VERY RARLEY you gotta move or she will remain confused.
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Granted this stuff does attract man
and a lot of men at that. But all the men it has attracted for me are of no interest to me.
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We gotta remember women are naturally
submissive
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> please stop generalizing
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dogsbutt
10-21-2003, 05:02 AM
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The one guy I want to attract is not
responding to the pheromones.
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I went out with a girl about two
weeks ago. I was wearing two drops of PI/w (wrists), two sprays of TE/m (armpits), and 1/3 pack of SOE (on neck and
wrists). And I was being my natural attractive and cool self, with little/no reaction from her. At the end of the
night, all I got was a HANDSHAKE. I get more sexual response from lampposts (they sometimes turn on when I walk
under them).
Flash forward to day before yesterday; I bumped into her on the street. She let me know she had a
lot of fun on our first date (could\'ve REALLY fooled me) and that we should do it again sometime. So, we went to
the movies that night and afterwards were making out like teenagers.
Here\'s the kicker: She told me that she
wanted to make out with me that VERY first night, that she was so overwhelmed and she had no idea where that was
coming from because she normally doesn\'t let lust get in the way of getting to know somebody. BUT SHE
COULDN\'T HELP IT!! She had to force herself not to jump me right then and there. She kept on hoping I would
just lean in and kiss her, so she didn\'t have to make the decision to hold back anymore.
Moral of the story:
Never assume you know what\'s going on INSIDE. I thought her lack of speaking, responding was a negative sign.
But, I had no clue what it really meant.
Anywho, just ask the guy to coffee, take it out of the context of the
workplace. Present it as an opportunity to make a new friend. At worst, you\'ll have a new friend, right?
Sid
franki
10-21-2003, 05:06 AM
This story once again shows we shouldn\'t even TRY to figure out what is going on in a woman\'s
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SweetSeduceGurl
10-21-2003, 05:21 AM
Ms. Wondering? I have read many of your posts, and I must say that I am confused as to
why you feel this man is so interested in you? You said that he is often very cold to you. I agree with what these
lovely men are telling you. Ask him out and if he declines, then move on to something real.
tallmacky
10-21-2003, 05:22 AM
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I keep getting a lot of hits from
men that I know are not compatible with my personality when using pheromones.
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I\'m not sure what you expected, but pheromones aren\'t going to get a guy to look at you
due to your respectable behavior and personality....why would they? and what were you expecting from a sexual
attraction product?
You have made it some what clear that you don\'t like obvious men, that you like shy guys
that are hard to read and ummm interesting /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif. Shy guys who sit in
the back and let things go by due to whatever personality trait aren\'t going to acknowledge you anymore more if
you were butt ass naked....well they may noticed but they would sit behind their desk and fondle their timid
man-meat while acting as if they aren\'t starring at you and act as if you have cooties, which seems kind of 4th
gradish I was shy a lot, gets attention, but unless you are making moves......nothing. I don\'t see how you can
win in this situation, if the shy guy pops out (no pun intended) and shows you attention, won\'t you find him not
as attractive? It\'s a double positive it\'s like a pedophiler opening a day care center. what would I
expect?
There is a product that works for Shy men, it\'s a boot in the ass.
EXIT63
10-21-2003, 06:27 AM
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This guy is very shy and does not have
interest in a any woman but me.
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rather presumptuous
Brian
10-21-2003, 06:29 AM
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rather presumptuous
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We gotta remember women are naturally
submissive and via genetics expect the guy to show the testostrone and make the move - thats why shy guys never get
laid except when they get frustrated and go to a prostitute for it.
Wonderingwoman wont ask this guy out even he is
interested and she is interested but cannot go out with him unless HE makes the move and not her - so if she is
using the mones and is not prepared to ask him out then she shouldnt be chasing him or trying to direct the mones at
him. Its as simple as that because otherwise he wont change she will continue to waste her energy in the hope he
will make the move he wont and she will remain confused.
Ie why wont he ask me out even though i have my mones on
- hey plenty of guys expect the same thing ie i wear this she will aks me out WONT HAPPEN GUYS - WELL VERY RARLEY
you gotta move or she will remain confused.
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Naturally submissive
NOT! We are just a tad more subtle about communicating mating signals. It\'s true that some women (like me) prefer
that the man make the first OVERT move. But, that\'s AFTER we\'ve already made him think it\'s his idea to
pursue us.
Whitehall
10-21-2003, 07:30 AM
I have to
agree with Watcher although I would have put it more diplomatically.
Here\'s the proof - how many women are
attracted to men that the woman could physically dominate? Answer: very, very few. Women almost universally expect
their male mate to be bigger, taller, stronger than themselves.
Women are being encouraged to be more aggressive
in Western culture these days but women are NOT interested genetically in men that they can dominate. As to the
notion of \"equality\" in a relationship I can only add that equality is highly unstable and largely illusionary.
cuddlebear
10-21-2003, 07:34 AM
This idea of \"being interested but not letting anyone know it\" was precisely what I was referring
to in my thread \"Indifference: Faking It?\" .. I think if we were animals and not human, then these mones would
be bringing us \"together\" a lot more quickly. I made references to women \"faking it\" but of course both
sexes are capable of this behavior. I, personally, would like to know how to read some of the more subtle signs ...
Cuddles
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I have to agree with Watcher although I would have
put it more diplomatically.
Here\'s the proof - how many women are attracted to men that the woman could
physically dominate? Answer: very, very few. Women almost universally expect their male mate to be bigger, taller,
stronger than themselves.
Women are being encouraged to be more aggressive in Western culture these days but
women are NOT interested genetically in men that they can dominate. As to the notion of \"equality\" in a
relationship I can only add that equality is highly unstable and largely illusionary.
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But, there are many kinds of domination, these days. A woman may be able \"outhink\" or
\"outmaneuver\" a man, or may dominate by force of personality.
However, I have to concede that I am also not
attracted to men who are smaller than I am.
AznDude
10-21-2003, 10:09 AM
To add
to Kari\'s statement:
Well, here\'s the scenario I find myself in.
Through my last relationship, the girl
I was with will generally be looked at as the submissive type, like she\'s obviously looking for a guy who can
protect her, a sense of security. A little hard to do that if the guy\'s smaller than her.
But here\'s the
interesting thing. When we\'re together she would like to call some of the shots (not all) but more wanting the
guy to treat her like a queen in the sense of listening to her, spoiling her, etc. Not to a point where it\'s
selfish, but I mean, she is submissive, but she also would like some control too, so of course what she says,
usually goes (within reasonable limits). And many guys do that, so we all have a submissive and dominant side, of
course.
And even some of the most physically dominating males (bodybuilders, what not) can have an incredibly
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So the way I look at it,
give her the physical protection, the Mental comfort, followed by a side of spoilers and topped with an open-mind
for compromise.... and we have a pretty good mix, dontcha think?
furburger
10-21-2003, 10:30 AM
maybe this guy is pc. Maybe he is trying to avoid a office romance. He probably lusts after you in many
ways but choses not to act on his impulses because it will affect his working enviroment. Especially if you work in
the same room or office. Because if anything goes wrong with the relationship it is very uncomfortable having to
work next to or around that person.
Irish
10-21-2003, 10:44 AM
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How do I know, or for that matter any
of us know, that by covering up our natural pheromones that we are actually repelling the right person for us?
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You are right. We don\'t know much about the \'language\' of
natural pheros, let alone what signal the commercial products are sending. We have scientific evidence about the
general effects and areas of the brain affected, but not a lot of specifics. It hasn\'t been studied well enough
yet.
Using the commercial phero products is an experiment. The commercial products are concentrated versions of
chemicals that appear naturally on your skin. Even a light application of the products is typically many times more
concentrated than anything that appears on your skin naturally. You are experimenting with sending strong pheromonal
signals, always different and stronger than nature. Observe the effects on others and see if you like it.
As far
as covering your own pheros, well that\'s not a big issue in today\'s world. Most of us bathe off our natural
phero signature daily, and mask body odor with chemical deodorants anyway. The standard well-scrubbed human sends no
significant phero signal, or a false chemical signal, becuase he/she bathes and deodorizes daily.
WonderingThoughts
10-21-2003, 04:40 PM
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maybe this guy is pc.
Maybe he is trying to avoid a office romance. He probably lusts after you in many ways but choses not to act on his
impulses because it will affect his working enviroment. Especially if you work in the same room or office. Because
if anything goes wrong with the relationship it is very uncomfortable having to work next to or around that person.
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furburger, this is the whole issue!! We work in the same
building,on the same team, on the same projects and work side by side. If a romance went wrong then it would create
a lot of stress for both of us. For neither of us is going to quit our jobs.
A woman DOES know when a man is
interested. I have known and worked with this man for four years. I know he changed about a year ago and we did
have a office romance but without the dating part. We had the loving words and loving looks for each other and
still do except when he is in his cold mood.
By the way today he did respond but nothing out of the usual for
him. When he is not in his cold mood he is very flirty and today he was flirty.
I am so happy today!!!
WonderingThoughts
10-21-2003, 04:46 PM
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class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
How do I know, or for that matter any of us know, that by covering up our
natural pheromones that we are actually repelling the right person for us?
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class=\"post\">
You are right. We don\'t know much about the \'language\' of natural pheros, let alone
what signal the commercial products are sending. We have scientific evidence about the general effects and areas of
the brain affected, but not a lot of specifics. It hasn\'t been studied well enough yet.
Using the commercial
phero products is an experiment. The commercial products are concentrated versions of chemicals that appear
naturally on your skin. Even a light application of the products is typically many times more concentrated than
anything that appears on your skin naturally. You are experimenting with sending strong pheromonal signals, always
different and stronger than nature. Observe the effects on others and see if you like it.
As far as covering your
own pheros, well that\'s not a big issue in today\'s world. Most of us bathe off our natural phero signature
daily, and mask body odor with chemical deodorants anyway. The standard well-scrubbed human sends no significant
phero signal, or a false chemical signal, becuase he/she bathes and deodorizes daily.
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Irish, I never thought of it like that. Thanks. I am new to this forum
and to the pheromones so I am learning so much from everyone.
WT wrote:
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Today at work he
talked and was he very friendly but he seemed to be distant.
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By the way today he did respond but nothing out
of the usual for him.
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class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
This guy is very shy and does not have interest in a any woman but me.
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we did have a office romance but without the dating part.
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It\'s like putting your head inside a blender and pressing the puree button.
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Ash
proteus
10-21-2003, 05:58 PM
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furburger, this is the whole issue!!
We work in the same building,on the same team, on the same projects and work side by side. If a romance went wrong
then it would create a lot of stress for both of us. For neither of us is going to quit our jobs.
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Well, either you want something to happen or you don\'t. The work
situation won\'t change unless one of you leaves the firm. Pheros won\'t change the work situation either.
It\'s just a question of whether y\'all want to risk an on the job romance which granted can be rough and
potentially hazardous to one\'s job. If you think it\'s worth the risk then make the move coz this guy will
never make any move if you\'ve known him for 4 yrs or whatever. If you want him, go for him and throw caution to
the wind, or just forget about him entirely if the risks are not worth it. Been in this situation a number of times
myself and decided the risks just weren\'t worth it.
Sacogoo
10-21-2003, 10:23 PM
Ash writes:
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It\'s like putting
your head inside a blender and pressing the puree button.
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It took
quite a lot of self-medication this evening, but I finally got it. (But then again, I firmly believe that I now
also understand quantum physics and the female psyche as well.)
If there is a \"Best Poster of the Year\"
Award, I know where my vote is going.
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