Synergy: As many different pheronones as possible?

[Sunny]

Hi all,

I think I remember that it has been proven that a good mix of vitamins has better

effects than the sum of the effects of the single vitamins taken separately. This is because in nature they always

occur in a broad mix, they work in synergy.

My thoughts go along these lines with pheromones. Of the many

natural pheromones that exist we use only very few synthetic ones in very high dosages. It would be logical to

combine as many as possible of those which we can buy.

Will this work best? And what are general guidelines

for the ratios (although everybody is different of cause)?

My idea is to use all of these together, in the

right ratio but starting with low dosages:

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AE (for a good ratio of -nol,

-none, -rone)
A1
WAGG (assuming it contains other different pheromones)
NPA/TE (for the secret

ingedients)
PI/w (for some other secret ingredients?)
PCC/EW if you like (maybe not add this directly

in a mix)
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Has somebody tried this?
I will try this myself some day but I think it might be

hard to find good ratios just by experimentation because of so many different ingredients...

Sunny

[cuddlebear]

I like this idea a lot but I think it would be easier to do it with Chem Kit mones than

with pre-mixed products. In fact I have been doing something like this (without the A1).

Finding the right mix

is the hard part ...

p.s. Glad someone thinks a little like me ...

Cuddles

[Sunny]

I agree for the 3 main pheros, just have not invested in the Chem Kit yet.

All those \"secret

ingedients\" in some other products may be useful for the synergy idea however...

[cuddlebear]

I agree, but mixing could be really tricky ...

[Sunny]

Might be a project for a couple of months - first start with AE, then add one more ingedient while

possibly reducing AE, then add one more etc...

I wish there was a way to speed up experimentation but on the

other hand it\'s like a good dinner - taking the time contributes to the experience (and will keep me entertained

for quite some time since I started using pheros just a couple of weeks ago)!

Sunny

[CptKipling]

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Hi all,

I think I

remember that it has been proven that a good mix of vitamins has better effects than the sum of the effects of the

single vitamins taken separately. This is because in nature they always occur in a broad mix, they work in

synergy.

My thoughts go along these lines with pheromones. Of the many natural pheromones that exist we use only

very few synthetic ones in very high dosages. It would be logical to combine as many as possible of those which we

can buy.

Will this work best? And what are general guidelines for the ratios (although everybody is different of

cause)?

My idea is to use all of these together, in the right ratio but starting with low dosages:

<ul

type=\"square\">
AE (for a good ratio of -nol, -none, -rone)
A1
WAGG (assuming it contains other

different pheromones)
NPA/TE (for the secret ingedients)
PI/w (for some other secret ingredients?)


PCC/EW if you like (maybe not add this directly in a mix)
[/list]

Has somebody tried this?
I will try this

myself some day but I think it might be hard to find good ratios just by experimentation because of so many

different ingredients...

Sunny

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Your idea is a good one that

has been around for a while (do a search for mixes), but your methology is a bit off.

You would be better off

starting off with something simpler, because this is a huge task. Do a search for some related things, such as phi

ratios, to get some idea.

Just to point somethings out to you:

- you will lose your \"good ratio of -nol,

-none, -rone\" in AE as soon as you start mixing with any product containing any of those pheros

- PI/w contains

-nol and copulins

- The chance of you finding a successfull mix decreases exponentially with the mixes

complexity. There are so many variables, it wouldn\'t be worth the time to explain it all to you.


But by all

means try it, all the luck in the world to you.

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[Holmes]

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But by all means try it, all the

luck in the world to you.

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That\'s a lot of luck to wish someone, CK! (You might want to buy a lottery ticket

right about now, Sunny... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif)

Really though, that mix does sound

extreme and perhaps a bit unwieldy. Perhaps it will work, though. Good luck.


Holmes

[CptKipling]

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But by all means try it, all the luck in the world to you.



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That\'s a

lot of luck to wish someone, CK! (You might want to buy a lottery ticket right about now, Sunny...

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Holmes

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Well

he needs it!

But seriously, I wouldn\'t want to completely put him off, but perhaps take it slower, get some

experience behind him first. There are some great hits to be had without mega complex mixes.

[Sunny]

Cpt., I am starting with AE only right now (did some experimentation with SOE and NPA before). Yes I do

start simple and take all the time I need to gain experience. Will post my report in two years

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My hobby in the passed weeks has been doing searches in the

forum. So there is more theory in my head than experience and this will take it\'s time. I have it! And on the way

I will find my perfect mix, likely with less products involved.

I agree on the ratio change with AE. It\'s just

what I have here already.

Thanks for the advice on PI/w. I guess I can leave it out of the equation.

I get

your point on the variables, even without the explanation.

I am overwhelmed by so much luck but this proves my

theory that that the right mix will deliver more than the sum of it\'s components - like all the luck in the

word!

Lucky Sunny

[CptKipling]

Well good luck to you Lucky Sunny! If you have any questions dont be affraid to ask (PM if

you want), a good place to start with complex mixes is WKM and some of the mixes in my mix thread.

[Sunny]

Thank you for your offer! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I tried WKM#1 only two

nights so far (bar environment), without any obvious results. But I will try it more and some of your mixes of

cause!

[DrSmellThis]

If you ever spring for a chem set and some A1, give a shout.

[Sunny]

A1 should be in the package, on the plane to Germany, right now

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Chemset... as money comes in...

[Watcher]

Ive covered this in the past cant really remember my mix

Oh wait
30% ANone
20% Anol
20%

Arone
10% A1
10% WAGG
10% couplins

or something similar thats a starting point you want something thta is

either
a) heavy on anone and less anol or arone
b) more like SOE and less Anone (DD LITE or DD#1 are 2 i developed

that work well with SOE and NPA)
c) focus on couplins/Anol and fiddle with all other ratios
* WAGG goes well with

a small amount of Anone
* A1 mostly should not make up more than 20% of any mix due to the possible depressive

effects it has on some people or it can be offset with Anol and arone.

[Sagacious1420]

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Ive covered this in the past

cant really remember my mix

Oh wait
30% ANone
20% Anol
20% Arone
10% A1
10% WAGG
10% couplins

or

something similar thats a starting point you want something thta is either
a) heavy on anone and less anol or

arone
b) more like SOE and less Anone (DD LITE or DD#1 are 2 i developed that work well with SOE and NPA)
c) focus

on couplins/Anol and fiddle with all other ratios
* WAGG goes well with a small amount of Anone
* A1 mostly should

not make up more than 20% of any mix due to the possible depressive effects it has on some people or it can be

offset with Anol and arone.

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You\'re shameless....

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At least you aren\'t pirating Krish\'s thread.

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[Sunny]

Hey Watcher,

since I have been reading like a substancial percantage of all posts on this board (yes

it has taken a couple of weeks...), it took me a while but I think I can now memorize your mix. It\'s the first

thing that comes to my mind when I wake up in the morning...

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Sunny

[CptKipling]

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Ive covered this in the past cant

really remember my mix

Oh wait


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